First Big East team goes down. Who is next Cincy? Uconn?

What a debacle. St. John's got hosed in both seeding and location, and it shows. Should have been them beating up on Missouri instead of the Bearcats last night.

Steve Lavin sucks.

Why? He took a team that had lost more Big East games over the previous seven seasons than any other in history and made the tournament. Not his fault the selection committee had it out for the Big East (see the freaking SECOND round matchup between UConn and Cincinnati on Saturday).

You're a St. John's fan? If so, you're satisfied with any modicum of success. Thus your opinion is biased.

In time you'll see that he sucks.

11 teams in the tournament and you think they had it out for them? The big east is VERY over rated. It is a very good conference, but not 11 teams good. they got a 1 seed, 2 seed, two 3 seeds, yeah they got screwed. Don't complain about seedings just win. If you lose the first game you had no shot of making the final 4 so what does it matter

It's almost like the Knicks situation. People in the NY area are just thrilled that they were/are relavent again, so he'll have a free pass for a while just for making the tourney.

I love hearing that the Big East shouldn't have 11 teams, yet I've not heard a single person point out a resume from a non-Big East school that would necessitate only having, say, ten in the tournament. Just compare the 11 Big East resumes to the teams who didn't make the field.

I'm complaining about seeding because St. John's got absolutely hosed in both seeding and location. A., of the six seeds, they had the best profile and should have traveled the shortest distance. B., they were made to play against easily the top 11 seed in the entire bracket. I'd trade the place and team STJ had to play with any of the other six seeds 100 times out of 100.

And there are 11 Big East teams in the tournament, meaning conference foes shouldn't have to play each other before the round of 16. Only by intent was it set up that four Big East teams will eliminate each other before the second week of the tournament. If you think the selection committee didn't do that on purpose, then I don't know what to tell you.

So easy to say "the Big East is overrated" without even remotely substantiating the claim. Louisville lost yesterday because Morehead State systemically took out Louisville's two best players. St. John's mostly sucked, so no excuses there, but if that Morehead game was called fair, Morehead doesn't have a shot. A guy on Morehead literally bodyslammed Louisville's Siva, injuring him, and didn't get called. Awful officiating.

That was a bodyslam? Sure it was a foul but come on. It just looked brutal cause that dude is a giant.

Should have least been two shots and the ball, IMO. Regardless, beating a crippled Louisville team doesn't necessarily reflect on an entire conference.

Absolutely not. Louisville was an overachiever all season. That team is pretty garbage...especially the tattooed douche who missed the free throws against UCONN and got the potential game winner blocked.

Pretty amazing that Louisville did as well as they did considering two of their three best returning players played less than 1/3 of the entire season because of injuries. Louisville should be pretty darn good next year.

The OVC is always tough. Fear Popeye Jones!

are we talking about the blocked shot at the end of the game?

the right non call was made. all ball. the only reason the kid fell is his momemtum was taking him that way and the blocked shot was powerful.

a foul call would have been horrible.

no.

It was the play when Siva went to the basket and tried to challenge Faried.

Yeah, no complaint about the play at the end of the game. It was borderline, but can't be called in that situation. Any other time of the game and that is typically called, though folks don't challenge three's quite so vociferously in the first half.

oh okay..

there were a few missed calls yesterday. Jimmer got crushed a few times with no calls (then again, he has the ball on every play). I think there was a big no call in the Penn State game towards the end.

But overall, great basketball. And besides WVU (my brothers school), Fucl< the Big East! They are always so overrated.

I had Richmond and Gonzaga in my bracket, missed Morehead, UCLA, Cinci & Kansas St.

its was a ballsy but big time play by the defender

I wonder if I'll be able to slip out of work an hour early today to watch the entire U of A game.. my bosses are out today.. hmm

Agreed. Though I have to disagree on Jimmer ever getting crushed. From watching that Wofford game last night, I'm pretty sure breathing on Jimmer might have been a foul in a few situations. Nobody gets more calls than that guy. Gonzaga is going to crush BYU.

Jimmer is awesome. First time I've seen him play. Is he a senior? I wonder how he'll project in the NBA, but he seems like a great passer as well as shooter so he could be a good one.

Really, you thought he was awesome from watching that game? He's a gunner. The guy can obviously play, but I think the hype machine is in overdrive with him. I wouldn't mind seeing the Pepsi Center spontaneously combust on Saturday as you'll have two of the most annoying entities in college basketball in the Duke of the West (Gonzaga) and Jimmer himself on the court at the same time.

yeah he was everywhere.. and he has a sweet shot

he rushed a few, but even when he rushes shots they go in half the time.

Also it seems like he's the only player on the court. He alone makes BYU a good basketball team.

I was impressed by his passing too, I wonder what his role will be in the NBA.

Jimmer seems like the Tim Tebow of college basketball ;)

I will imagine carrying luggage, waiving a towel and high fiving the players as they come off the floor.

You don't seriously think he will have a significant role in the NBA do you?

He is a really nice college player, but in the pros, he will be too slow to guard a point and too small to guard a wing.

practice dummy

Tebow actually won something in college. Although, the comparison might be solid. Tebow spent much of his time last season carrying luggage, waving a towel and high fiving guys as they came off the field.

His role in the NBA will be to go play in Turkey or something. 93 percent of the crap he gets away with at BYU won't work in the league.

A nice college player....might stick around in the NBA with the right team, we've seen a lot of this type player in the last few years, coming of the bench to hopefully add a little offense would be his best case future it would seem. Might average 6-8 pts a game with right squad.

"We"

The Wiccans?

GTFO douche

A lot of players his type??? Like who?

The white Eddie House

Hansbrough, Blair, Redick as examples. Excellent college players but skill set somewhat limited for NBA. Hansbrough has been playing lights out recently with increased playing time, Blair has developed into a solid reserve and Redick adds scoring off the Orlando bench. Players who make up for lack of NBA skill set with hustle and desire.

Hold on there. Blair and Reddick don't have NBA skill sets? What?
Blair is an excellent low post scorer and rebounder. Reddick is has great range and is a solid defender. The idea that they are only in the NBA because of "hustle and desire" is complete bullshit.

TH is averaging 10 and 5 but isnt really good enough to play more than he does.

The knock on all three has been exactly that, not my determination, I love all three for their desire and hustle. When Reddick first came into the league, he was dismissed as a spot up shooter lacking in defense and ability to get his own shot. Through hard work he has greatly improved in both areas. Blair was seen as too small for underneath and every scout questioned his knees, SA, to their credit took a chance and have been nicely rewarded. TH is showing promise with increased playing time....the point is that often big time college players find their skill set does not translate into NBA stardom. Those who do make it do so with great work ethic and desire, hopefully this kid can do the same!

No one is calling Jimmer a potential NBA star are they?
The three players you listed all have a unique NBA skill that keeps them in the league. If you have 1 elite skill and are willing to work for less than top dollar you can play for along time. Reddick has great range and is athletic enough to defend 2's fairly well. Blair is a lot more athletic than he looks and is a very good rebounder and has a light touch. I don't really know that Hansborough has an elite skill other than a high motor. But all three of these guys are limited players who won't ever get more than 25 minutes a game on a good team. They arent simply in the NBA because they work hard. They have NBA skills. Jimmer can score. He cant do much else but he will play as long as he stays quick on his feet and can shoot. He will never be more than a role player because he just isnt good enough but his peak may be Vinny Johnson which means something.

I :{>::{>: The Microwave.

Those guys are NBA sized players for their respective positions. Tyler is 6-9. Reddick is 6-4 (short but not ridiculously short) and Blair is a wide body 6-8. Fredette is a 6-2 2 guard. He is not fast enough to cover an NBA 1 or big enough to cover a 2. He will be too slow to get in the lane against 1's and will be buillied by 2's.

I think he compares to a whole slew of guys over the years like hopson, respert, alford, hoiberg (great nickname), rodney monroe...the list goes on forever. Not the same position but how much of a bust was adam morrison? Again, two slow to beat 3's and too weak to play 4.

If you aren't "nba sized", you better be really athletic to be able to get a shot off in the big leagues. Jimmer is kind of like a tweener guard. I don't care if he can shoot to 40 feet, if he can't get the shot off and can't cover, he isn't going to play.

Blair is not 6'8", closer to 6"6"
No one is making the argument that JF is going to be a really good player but unlike those guys listed he can score and if Eddie House can play 10 years in the NBA, JF can make it too. Hell Steve Nash is an abysmal defensive player and he is a shoo in hall of famer.

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2011/

Draftexpress latest mock draft has Jimmer going #17 to.......



The Knicks!!

His defense fits in perfectly!

Get a clue, PLEASE.