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Riot 02-03-2011 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 748696)
Study up!!!!! BTW must have been thrilled that the one thing that got your guy through all his doubters was his christian faith in God. :D

call ur guy about that creation park you're so concerned with!!!!!!

Probably not best to drink and post.

dellinger63 02-03-2011 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 748697)
no good, just like leaving 5 pennies on a 100 dollar tab. :zz:

or even better. "I'm full and won't be having the after dinner drink. Desert killed me"

dellinger63 02-03-2011 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 748700)
Probably not best to drink and post.

get off the huffington lmao

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41408256...s-white_house/

and keep the faith

Riot 02-03-2011 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 748697)
no good, just like leaving 5 pennies on a 100 dollar tab. :zz:

So the Dems actually cutting $15 billion real dollars out of just the contract budget, on the way to decreasing just the contract budget by about 8%, is inadequate.

But you think that the Republicans taking $32 billion unspent dollars out of this years entire budget is awesome.

dellinger63 02-03-2011 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 748705)
So the Dems actually cutting $15 billion real dollars out of just the contract budget, on the way to decreasing just the contract budget by about 8%, is inadequate.

But you think that the Republicans taking $32 billion unspent dollars out of this years entire budget is awesome.

Those dollars 15 billion were taken away from private contractors and given to Fed workers complete with a full beni package. No I want them (DEMS YOU) to revert back to that so-called 'over-inflated' Bush budget and then let's talk.

Otherwise it's like dealing with a unemployed, crack adict wife, you want to divorce who swears she'll spend no more than last year and the lawyer is saying you have to wait 2 years.

Riot 02-03-2011 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 748709)
Those dollars 15 billion were taken away from private contractors and given to Fed workers complete with a full beni package..

Really? I await your proof on that. Or is your anti-Obama paranoia just making silly crap up out of thin air?

Danzig 02-03-2011 07:57 PM

i don't know what's worse, the all is good line of posting, or everything sucks. i'd imagine the truth of these matters lies somewhere between dells rants and riots cheerleading.

Riot 02-03-2011 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 748715)
i don't know what's worse, the all is good line of posting, or everything sucks. i'd imagine the truth of these matters lies somewhere between dells rants and riots cheerleading.

I'm quite happy to "cheerlead" when there are facts to back up my opinion.

I've also said the opposite when it applies, although it's obvious that's not remembered.

dellinger63 02-03-2011 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 748719)
I've also said the opposite when it applies, although it's obvious that's not remembered.

WHEN?????????

Riot 02-03-2011 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 748721)
WHEN?????????

You are the guy who has every post I've ever made on Dee Tee at your fingers, so I'll leave it to you to find. If you have time between your identifying lying journalists and your identifying lying reports of budget cuts.

Danzig 02-03-2011 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 748719)
I'm quite happy to "cheerlead" when there are facts to back up my opinion.

I've also said the opposite when it applies, although it's obvious that's not remembered.



lol
yeah, it's not remembered. probably because it doesn't happen. not regarding your president. you bought his hope and change hook, line and sinker. perfectly understandable. what you fail to see is that you're dell, you're timmi. just for the other side. and you get so upset with them. it's really hilarious. (no offense to tim and dell, really). but let's call a spade a spade, riot. you're many things, being impartial is certainly not one of them.

as for you posting 'facts'. people on opposite points of view can always find stuff to back up their argument. for anything you post as fact, your opponent could find something to argue the point and prove their point as well. it's like when folks argue and use the bible-it's eye for an eye ....or their opponent can cite the same book and say no, it's turn the other cheek.

Riot 02-03-2011 08:22 PM

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lol yeah, it's not remembered. probably because it doesn't happen. not regarding your president. you bought his hope and change hook, line and sinker. perfectly understandable. what you fail to see is that you're dell, you're timmi. just for the other side. and you get so upset with them. it's really hilarious. (no offense to tim and dell, really). but let's call a spade a spade, riot. you're many things, being impartial is certainly not one of them.
No, I'm not impartial. Never said I was otherwise, so if that's your final line, yeah, guilty. I support the President and am very happy with what he does, for the most part.

I haven't seen Dell and Timm back up their arguments with much more than "Obama and the Democrats suck!". Maybe I missed that?

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as for you posting 'facts'. people on opposite points of view can always find stuff to back up there argument.
That would be wonderful if people would actually do that here - that would lead to some good debate, don't you think?

Then you wouldn't have to unfairly tell Nascar that unemployed people are not freeloaders. That's not nice of you. His opinion is just the same as yours. You've apparently bought hook, line and sinker into the "poor unemployed" BS the Democrats are putting out, Danzig.

dellinger63 02-03-2011 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 748725)
You are the guy who has every post I've ever made on Dee Tee at your fingers, so I'll leave it to you to find. If you have time between your identifying lying journalists and your identifying lying reports of budget cuts.

this one? In response to VA Beni's?

That's ridiculous hate talk. Poor you, poor little victim you. Grow a pair and get real. You have free lifetime medical care from your government that I - and illegals - help pay for. Illegals don't get that. You will eventually get social security. Illegals don't get that - even if they do pay into the system for years. What f cked this country is hate like yours. And what's continuing to do it is appalling ignorance. RIOT (bum knee fixed in the courts)


One thing that differs Riot and I is; I don't ever pretend to be is a former Dem

Riot 02-03-2011 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 748730)
this one? In response to VA Beni's?

That post was not in response to VA benefits, Dell. That post was about somebody's characterization of illegal immigrants.

Yeah, I'm still a registered Republican, and I still consider the current incarnation of the GOP a massive failure compared to the past 40 years. If you don't like that, or believe that, that's your problem.

dellinger63 02-03-2011 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 748730)
this one? In response to VA Beni's?

That's ridiculous hate talk. Poor you, poor little victim you. Grow a pair and get real. You have free lifetime medical care from your government that I - and illegals - help pay for. Illegals don't get that. You will eventually get social security. Illegals don't get that - even if they do pay into the system for years. What f cked this country is hate like yours. And what's continuing to do it is appalling ignorance. RIOT (bum knee fixed in the courts)


One thing that differs Riot and I is; I don't ever pretend to be is a former Dem

and she probably thinks illegals are supporting the military vets in some far-away, way, way twisted-way.

Riot 02-03-2011 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 748732)
and she probably thinks illegals are supporting the military vets in some far-away, way, way twisted-way.

No, not at all. It's a shame you can't read, Dell. Sad.

Danzig 02-03-2011 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 748728)
No, I'm not impartial. Never said I was otherwise, so if that's your final line, yeah, guilty. I support the President and am very happy with what he does, for the most part.

I haven't seen Dell and Timm back up their arguments with much more than "Obama and the Democrats suck!". Maybe I missed that?



That would be wonderful if people would actually do that here - that would lead to some good debate, don't you think?

Then you wouldn't have to unfairly tell Nascar that unemployed people are not freeloaders. That's not nice of you. His opinion is just the same as yours.


no, what typically happens is something is posted, and whoever is on the opposite side attacks the site linked to. facts typically are cited that support one's point of view. people will do a search, and cull the results-link to those they agree with( thus, are true) while ignoring those that offer an opposing view (thus, obviously not true).

and yes, some unemployed people are freeloaders. you don't believe that, because you can't grasp the concept-because it's not something you would do, so you don't understand it in others. but some folks are absolutely perfectly content to live on the dole. or, they work under the table for cash to supplement their u/e income. most people who have to file want another job, but some do not. perhaps their spouse works, perhaps they can work with their buddy for cash...who knows?
my brother is a freeloader, i find him an embarrassment. he went out on disability from the dcfd for a bad back. they offered him a desk job, but he said he couldn't sit or stand long without pain. so, on the dole he went. my dad offered him part time work to supplement the disability, as he can earn so much per month. nope.
as for not sitting or standing for long...he sure spends hours and hours sitting in a wooden chair playing WOW online.

and did i mention that he, his wife, and four kids (and two dogs) live with my folks? going on three years...but he's sure proud of that cadillac escalade he drives (arnold palmer edition). but yeah, he can't afford his own place...

that mentality exists. saying that all on assistance are milking the system is no truer than saying none are. perfect example of all the glorious debate on here. the truth in so many things lies somewhere in between the polar opposites arguing their point ad infinitum.

dellinger63 02-03-2011 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 748731)
That post was not in response to VA benefits, Dell. That post was about somebody's characterization of illegal immigrants.

Yeah, I'm still a registered Republican, and I still consider the current incarnation of the GOP a massive failure compared to the past 40 years. If you don't like that, or believe that, that's your problem.

Give me a break it was brought up in direct retaliation of who pays NASCAR's va beni's. You sad you and illegals do. Deal with it and change your GOP registration please!

Riot 02-03-2011 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 748735)
no, what typically happens is something is posted, and whoever is on the opposite side attacks the site linked to. facts typically are cited that support one's point of view. people will do a search, and cull the results-link to those they agree with( thus, are true) while ignoring those that offer an opposing view (thus, obviously not true)..

Uh ... naw. That would be nice, but no. Derby Trail is usually far more limited to the intellectually stimulating, " ---- sucks! You suck!"

Riot 02-03-2011 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 748736)
Give me a break it was brought up in direct retaliation of who pays NASCAR's va beni's. You sad you and illegals do. Deal with it and change your GOP registration please!

No it was not Dell. It was brought up in response to the contention that illegals are getting benefits that citizens do not.

And you don't tell me what my politics are, thanks.

dellinger63 02-03-2011 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 748734)
No, not at all. It's a shame you can't read, Dell. Sad.

once again for the Carter-ith time you said to Nascar and his beni's

You have free lifetime medical care from your government that I - and illegals - help pay for.

Deal with it and own it or?? LMAO

Danzig 02-03-2011 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 748737)
Uh ... naw. That would be nice, but no. Derby Trail is usually far more limited to the intellectually stimulating, " ---- sucks! You suck!"

that doesn't happen? 'you cited huffington, how dare you? 'well, you linked to foxnews, it's fake'. 'oh, cause your cnn was so much better'....back and forth. it really is funny.

Riot 02-03-2011 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 748740)
once again for the Carter-ith time you said to Nascar and his beni's

You have free lifetime medical care from your government that I - and illegals - help pay for.

Deal with it and own it or?? LMAO

No, Dell, this was not said in response to Nascar getting VA benefits, it was brought up in response to the contention that illegals are getting benefits that citizens do not.

Yes, I own what I said completely.

You can't apparently follow a thread. LMAO

Riot 02-03-2011 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 748741)
that doesn't happen? 'you cited huffington, how dare you? 'well, you linked to foxnews, it's fake'. 'oh, cause your cnn was so much better'....back and forth. it really is funny.

Yeah, I'm all about the above conversation. Sure. And we are inundated with factual links from Dell and Timmi. Sure.

dellinger63 02-03-2011 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 748743)
No, Dell, this was not said in response to Nascar getting VA benefits, it was brought up in response to the contention that illegals are getting benefits that citizens do not.

Yes, I own what I said completely.

You can't apparently follow a thread. LMAO


what beni's for Nascar then were you speaking of?

When you quoted his post and started your's starting with you as in "You have free lifetime medical care from your government that I - and illegals - help pay for."

Riot 02-03-2011 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 748746)
what beni's for Nascar then were you speaking of?

When you quoted his post and addressed your's starting with you as in "You have free lifetime medical care from your government that I - and illegals - help pay for."

I can't give you reading comprehension you don't have, Dell. If you are desperately worried about it, go back and read the whole thread, and maybe you can understand it. I've just repeated three times what it's about. And read the post where I said Nascar completely deserved his veterans benefits and I was happy to pay for them.

And sadly, you were going off to find a post where I said something not nice about Obama. And that is what you came back with. O-B-A-M-A.

dellinger63 02-03-2011 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 748748)
I can't give you reading comprehension you don't have, Dell. If you are desperately worried about it, go back and read the whole thread, and maybe you can understand it. I've just repeated three times what it's about. And read the post where I said Nascar completely deserved his veterans benefits and I was happy to pay for them.

And sadly, you were going off to find a post where I said something not nice about Obama. And that is what you came back with. O-B-A-M-A.

teach me then ole wise one. What in the sentence "You have free lifetime medical care from your government that I - and illegals - help pay for." did I not comprehend?

dellinger63 02-03-2011 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 748751)
teach me then ole wise one. What in the sentence "You have free lifetime medical care from your government that I - and illegals - help pay for." did I not comprehend?

or at least who were you referring to?

Riot 02-03-2011 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 748751)
teach me then ole wise one. Where in the sentence "You have free lifetime medical care from your government that I - and illegals - help pay for." did I not comprehend?

Geeshus, how effing stupid are you? Yes, I said that. In a whole paragraph responding to Nascar's characterization of illegal immigrants as getting benefits citizens do not.

What I said about Nascar and his VA benefits was that he deserved them, and I was happy to pay for them.

No, that was not brought up "in direct retaliation of who pays NASCAR's va beni's." it was brought up in response to the contention that those nasty illegals are getting benefits that citizens do not.

dellinger63 02-03-2011 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 748754)
Geeshus, how effing stupid are you? Yes, I said that. In a whole paragraph responding to Nascar's characterization of illegal immigrants as getting benefits citizens do not.

What I said about Nascar and his VA benefits was that he deserved them, and I was happy to pay for them.

No you said and don't want to get it wrong at this point, and I quote (in the quote I being RIOT)

"I - and illegals - help pay for."

Now why in your response do you leave out the fact illegals are paying for VA benefits?

Riot 02-03-2011 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 748755)
No you said and don't want to get it wrong at this point, and I quote (in the quote I being RIOT)

"I - and illegals - help pay for."

Now why in your response do you leave out the fact illegals are paying for VA benefits?

I repeat, one last time, for the reading-comprehension challenged:
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Geeshus, how effing stupid are you? Yes, I said that. In a whole paragraph responding to Nascar's characterization of illegal immigrants as getting benefits citizens do not.

What I said about Nascar and his VA benefits was that he deserved them, and I was happy to pay for them.

No, that was not brought up "in direct retaliation of who pays NASCAR's va beni's." it was brought up in response to the contention that those nasty illegals are getting benefits that citizens do not.

dellinger63 02-03-2011 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 748759)
I repeat, one last time, for the reading-comprehension challenged:


than why in the world did you say illegals paid for benefits or was that now a typo? You know when you typed, "You have free lifetime medical care from your government that I - and illegals - help pay for."

dellinger63 02-03-2011 09:17 PM

can you do your Carter being smart routine?

dellinger63 02-03-2011 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 748761)
can you do your Carter being smart routine?


as a republican of course lmao

Riot 02-03-2011 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 748760)
than why in the world did you say illegals paid for benefits or was that now a typo? You know when you typed, "You have free lifetime medical care from your government that I - and illegals - help pay for."

Poor Dell.

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Geeshus, how effing stupid are you? Yes, I said that. In a whole paragraph responding to Nascar's characterization of illegal immigrants as getting benefits citizens do not.

What I said about Nascar and his VA benefits was that he deserved them, and I was happy to pay for them.

No, that was not brought up "in direct retaliation of who pays NASCAR's va beni's." it was brought up in response to the contention that those nasty illegals are getting benefits that citizens do not.


dellinger63 02-03-2011 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 748764)
Poor Dell.

OK frame it another way. Are illegals paying for VA benefits?

Riot 02-03-2011 09:35 PM

Dell goes off to find a post where I diss Obama. Dell comes back with a post of me angry about how someone talked about illegal aliens.

Dell: "this one? In response to VA Beni's?"

Riot: That post wasn't in response to VA benefits, it was in response to how someone talked about illegal aliens.

Dell: You posted that in direct response to who pays NASCAR's VA benes

Riot: No. That post wasn't in response to VA benefits, it was in response to how someone talked about illegal aliens.

Dell: But you said this.

Riot: Yes, I did. But that post wasn't in response to VA benefits, it was in response to how someone was talking about illegal aliens.

Dell: But didn't you say THIS?

Riot. Yes, I did. But that post wasn't in response to VA benefits, it was in response to how someone was talking about illegal aliens.

Dell: But you said THIS!

Riot: Yes, I did. But that post wasn't in response to VA benefits, it was in response to how someone was talking about illegal aliens.

Good luck with that, Dell.

dellinger63 02-03-2011 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 748770)
Dell goes off to find a post where I diss Obama. Dell comes back with a post of me angry about how someone talked about illegal aliens.

Dell: "this one? In response to VA Beni's?"

Riot: That post wasn't in response to VA benefits, it was in response to how someone talked about illegal aliens.

Dell: You posted that in direct response to who pays NASCAR's VA benes

Riot: No. That post wasn't in response to VA benefits, it was in response to how someone talked about illegal aliens.

Dell: But you said this.

Riot: Yes, I did. But that post wasn't in response to VA benefits, it was in response to how someone was talking about illegal aliens.

Dell: But didn't you say THIS?

Riot. Yes, I did. But that post wasn't in response to VA benefits, it was in response to how someone was talking about illegal aliens.

Dell: But you said THIS!

Riot: Yes, I did. But that post wasn't in response to VA benefits, it was in response to how someone was talking about illegal aliens.

Good luck with that, Dell.

The writings of a mad woman.

Registered republican, Obama prophet and wanna be screen writer. My lord woman I quote you and this is what you come up with? A drama? It is Carter-esque in that it's so deep you haven't a clue whether it be straight BS or straight confussion.

Riot 02-03-2011 10:33 PM

Another federal judge rules on healthcare
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_818428.html

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WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration won a victory Thursday in the winding legal debate surrounding the president's signature health care law, as a federal judge in Mississippi threw out a suit challenging the constitutionality of the bill.

"Plaintiffs' First Amended Petition contains insufficient allegations to establish that they will certainly be "applicable individuals" who must comply with the minimum coverage provision."

"For example, Plaintiffs did not allege any facts which, if true, would certainly establish that they would not be subject to the provision's religious exemptions. Plaintiffs simply alleged that they will be subject to the minimum essential coverage provision - a bare legal conclusion which the Court may not accept as true."


Danzig 02-04-2011 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 748765)
OK frame it another way. Are illegals paying for VA benefits?

actually dell, much as i admire your tenacity, they are. you see, any money collected by the federal govt goes into a kitty. they can refer to an ss trust fund (that doesn't exist, that is a misnomer) or to medicare/medicaid (listed separately on your paystub and w-2, but goes into one general fund as well), etc...but all money collected by fed goes to the fed to parcel out. so any illegal paying s.s. with an incorrect number is funding anything the fed funds, including v.a. benefits.
now, it would be helpful if riot would just explain that, rather than getting into her usual routine of accusing someone of lacking comprehension skills- but that would be too easy.


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