You didn't disagree with me. You went off disagreeing with something I didn't even say. So yeah, you indeed needed to "get a clue" on that one.

Feel free to disagree with something I actually do say, however. Debate is fun.

Perfect time to reminisce:

"Obama has a strong interest in, and understanding of, the myriad of complexities involving the various countries in the middle east. Tribal relations, power struggles, economics, historic, religious, etc. Carter had (and has) the same. Both "get it" - that it's an incredibly complicated, multi-layered area of the world." RIOT circa timeless

Now do you think with the interest and understanding this caped duo has, will they be able to assist Egypt? Or does the strong understanding tell them to stay the f<ck out?

Why don't you start a new thread on Egypt, and we can talk about it? Breaking news say the internet was just taken down there, it's getting really ugly.

I knew you'd say that! :p

Well, yeah - that's where it belongs. If you want to really talk about what's happening in Egypt, including the police starting to shoot at protesters today, start a thread.

If you just want want excuse to bring up a quote I said two (three?) years ago, that I still stand by, btw, because you think what I said is silly, well, you do that fairly regularly.

You know me I dont back down. Tyson V Michael Spinks was great to watch. I have been on the short end before and it wont be the last time I might be on the short end.

Hopefuly our country doesn't get involved with Egypt. This country has enough on its plate with Iraq and Afghanistan. Two places this country has no business meddling into how they run thier country.

[quote=jms62;746560]Isn't your typical Saturday night meeting with your local Black Panther chapter?

ummmm


Its more like Wilkes vs East Texas Baptist

The latest

A judge in Florida on Monday became the second judge to declare President Barack Obama's healthcare reform law unconstitutional, in the biggest legal challenge yet to federal authority to enact the law.

"Because the individual mandate is unconstitutional and not severable, the entire act must be declared void. This has been a difficult decision to reach, and I am aware that it will have indeterminable implications," Vinson wrote.


http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...ame=healthNews

When this crap goes to the Supreme Court im pretty confident Obama will have Sotomayor on his side. Im sure her vote has been bought already.

Did you read the whole bill page for page? If the Republicans take over the Senate and Obama gets voted out in 2012 there might be a good chance that this bill that wasn't wanted by the majority of Americans gets repealed.

There is no public option or single payer in the bill. Why do you think the left was so upset at Obama over that? Have you read even the basic summary of it? You'd know that to be true.

The majority of Americans are quite in favor of this at this point (check the polls), and no, doubtful it could ever get repealed, even if a GOP President were to get in during 2012 (as America will not give up the good things in the bill they are already receiving). Yes it could (and probably will) be amended over time. It can certainly be made stronger, better.

Two judges voted it constitutional, two now have not, and 14 have said the case had no merit and refused to hear it. 16 to 2 so far. Implementation of the bill will go forward, and the Supreme Court will get it eventually.

Needs to go to the Supreme Court NOW. Before any more taxes/fees are stolen. I'll guess and say they'll leave it up to State's rights and let the exodus begin. Talk about potentially destroying America?

Perhaps because the country is so diametrically opposed right now regarding healthcare maybe we can separate. Not divorce but a friendly you do your thing I'll do mine and I'll give support for 5-10 or better 100-200 years till everyone gets straightened out. We're a young country after all and can't afford to think ahead.

I hope it gets repealled. Why should my taxpaying money go to helping someone else. Is anyone going to help me in paying for my son to go to college? Wonder if the judges who have said there is no merit are bought and paid for?

I am in total agreement with you. Im sure know it all Riot will disagree with you.

The Govt. cannot force a citizen to buy a product. The Commerce Clause has been abused for decades. It's time to rein them in. I stated before, if that is unconstitutional, the whole thing goes down in flames. The same 4 Supremes who had difficulty reading the 2nd Amendment will probably have trouble reading the rest of the Constitution.

A good point you have also brought up. The 4 Supremes you are talking about also might be bought and paid for.

Brilliant Move!!!!!!

Five South Dakota lawmakers have introduced legislation that would require any adult 21 or older to buy a firearm “sufficient to provide for their ordinary self-defense.”

The bill, which would take effect Jan. 1, 2012, would give people six months to acquire a firearm after turning 21. The provision does not apply to people who are barred from owning a firearm.


Nor does the measure specify what type of firearm. Instead, residents would pick one “suitable to their temperament, physical capacity, and preference.”


The measure is known as an act “to provide for an individual mandate to adult citizens to provide for the self defense of themselves and others.”


Rep. Hal Wick, R-Sioux Falls, is sponsoring the bill and knows it will be killed. But he said he is introducing it to prove a point that the federal health care reform mandate passed last year is unconstitutional.


“Do I or the other cosponsors believe that the State of South Dakota can require citizens to buy firearms? Of course not. But at the same time, we do not believe the federal government can order every citizen to buy health insurance,” he said.

This is a very enlightning comparision. Im sure all the Dems and Obama butt munchers will disagree with you.

Well, just the United States government. Pell grants, and low-interest student loans.

BTW, Obama had the laws changed to cut out the useless middleman (banks) regarding making student loans in order to save us money (the banks were just making a profit off having the students fill out the paperwork, forward to the government, then handing the student the government check)

How is that helping me pay for my son's college when it has to be payed back? Other people get the free ride for college.

Pell Grants are free, not paid back. Be sure you apply for those.

I know the VA helps you go to college - does it help your kids get an education?

Sometimes it's best if the kid isn't living at home to get financial aid. Other people that get a free ride usually do so on the merits of their scholarship abilities.

But there are literally thousands of gift scholarships available that are never claimed for most schools (maybe a school has a scholarship for people from a certain town who are the children of a bricklayer, for example!) The kid has to go sit and look through the book in the financial aid office, or on the computer, to find those, and apply. Always worth it!

And there are work-study programs, where the kid works up to 20 hours a week. Very valuable help on Dad's wallet.

My niece was an RA in a dorm, and got a free room.

The other thing is go to a state school close to home for the first two years of basic classes, it's least expensive, as the state subsidizes the cost. Then if the kid wants a degree for a specific thing from a fancy school, transfer in to do the last 2 years there.

tell him to get good grades and a scholarship.

actually, encourage him to learn a trade. it's not just doctors we'll be lacking in, but electricians, plumbers, hvac techs, and auto mechanics.

The past grading he made Dean's list with a 3.78 GPA. ALso he was Cum Laude.

Thats awesome. You mentioned you were in the Navy when your son was born right?

You mean to the students who use them they're free. To those paying the bills, they are far from free.

My son I adopted him, he was from a previous marriage that my wife in. I have raised him since he was 4. Thank you for complimenting my son. I was in the Navy when I got married.

I get no help from the VA. I was also told that I couldn't give my son the money that I have from the GI Bill. Supposedly the Army can do it. I am not going to let my son waste two years of school by going to a state school. He is taking classes other than the basics right now. I will do everything to make sure my son gets through college. If it means working a second job part time I will do it.

That's awesome! You must be very proud. If he applies to a particular school early, he should get offers for financial help.

Yeah, I personally find it a real nightmare, having a few pennies of my tax dollars going to help deserving lower income kids achieve a higher education and benefit our society ;)

He's lucky to have your support behind him :tro:

I am very proud. A few years from now he will be a productive member of society.

I dont believe in another person getting a free handout or getting something for free except for a few cases. Alot of these people won't live within thier income. That is part of the problem.

like your son for college? :rolleyes:

I dont mind paying for my son's college. At least im not using the taxpayer's money for it like other's do.

That totally explains everything.. Have him go to West Point, I don't mind paying.

you're not very consistent; how do the below go with the above? i think you believe you should get a free ride but can't, so you think others are getting over on you.
i can be self-deprecating at times about working vs not working, but i would never trade my condition for being without a job and having to accept help. you on the other hand seem angry that even with what you've accomplished, you don't get enough freebies. that's where your real anger lies-you think people on the dole are in a better position than you it seems, whereas i feel sorry for them. also, if you checked into using your gi bill for his college, and they okayed it, that would be using taxpayer money for his college.

I love your suggestion. I would be proud if he was going there. I don't think a service academy would take a person who was born with a mild form of Cerebral Palsy. My wife and I are fortunate and blessed that he just has a mild form of it. Today you can't tell he was born with this dreadful disease that I wouldn't wish on anyone. I guess there is a risk of that when you are 14 ounces at birth. At least there are great institutions like the Shriners to help innocent and unfortunate children born with that dreadful disease.

don't know if he got it, but i did....hilarious.