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asudevil 11-17-2010 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by lemoncrush (Post 724412)
When was the last time the top 2 finishers in the Delta Jackpot went onto the KY Derby? I'm fully aware of having them getting the needed earnings. It's often they're not good enough to warrant consideration (Turf War a couple of years ago, as well as many others).

Z Humor?

RockHardTen1985 11-17-2010 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 724366)
My opinion of him is that I now have to go look up a video of him.

Thanks!


He is not that good, and thats being really nice because of the deal we have. I could have said horrible, terrible or something much worse about him.

tjfla 11-17-2010 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lemoncrush (Post 724412)
When was the last time the top 2 finishers in the Delta Jackpot went onto the KY Derby? I'm fully aware of having them getting the needed earnings. It's often they're not good enough to warrant consideration (Turf War a couple of years ago, as well as many others).

No idea but I know that is why this race had 19 pre enters.People finally figured out if they run and make money now that they dont have to kill there horses or crossing their fingers on poly to make the KY Derby

That is why horses are coming in from FL,Cali,Canada,NY.

Also a reason why Rogue Romance is running next week,he showed he liked CD. So why not keep him there and let him run in the KY Jockey Club? I get the idea,its easier to get graded earnings now then wait till Feb. THey run him now and in Feb he could run like crap in Arkansas and still be in.

Indian Charlie 11-17-2010 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 724431)
He is not that good, and thats being really nice because of the deal we have. I could have said horrible, terrible or something much worse about him.

That's all right, I could have called you Rock Tard Hen, but I didn't.

lemoncrush 11-17-2010 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tjfla (Post 724435)
No idea but I know that is why this race had 19 pre enters.People finally figured out if they run and make money now that they dont have to kill there horses or crossing their fingers on poly to make the KY Derby

That is why horses are coming in from FL,Cali,Canada,NY.

Also a reason why Rogue Romance is running next week,he showed he liked CD. So why not keep him there and let him run in the KY Jockey Club? I get the idea,its easier to get graded earnings now then wait till Feb. THey run him now and in Feb he could run like crap in Arkansas and still be in.

In the past it's probably been the timing of the race and the Bull Ring that has kept a lot of quality horses away. It's not like people just figured out that $1,000,000 is a lot of money (or the 750K it was the past year, I believe). Personally, I like this event and is the one day a year I actually play Delta.
But winning on a gimmicky track like that is one reason why it's hard to equate the Jackpot winner as being a possible future star on the Derby trail.

lemoncrush 11-17-2010 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 724431)
He is not that good, and thats being really nice because of the deal we have. I could have said horrible, terrible or something much worse about him.

I wish you would have. The ANTI-mush could be useful. I have a small future bet on him at 200-1, so I'm keeping my eye on him, and think he has a nice chance to improve next year.

Indian Charlie 11-17-2010 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by lemoncrush (Post 724490)
I wish you would have. The ANTI-mush could be useful. I have a small future bet on him at 200-1, so I'm keeping my eye on him, and think he has a nice chance to improve next year.

RHT and I have a deal. He can't say anything overly good, or anything bad, about any IC offspring. With that in mind, he's given you the reverse mush.

Clip-Clop 11-17-2010 03:09 PM

The Azeri/Giant's Causeway 2yo.

RockHardTen1985 11-17-2010 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 724515)
The Azeri/Giant's Causeway 2yo.

WOWOWOW....
Where is this beast hidden?

Clip-Clop 11-18-2010 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 724703)
WOWOWOW....
Where is this beast hidden?

Wish I knew...After Take Control looked so good early I was anxious to see this one and can't seem to find it.

dellinger63 11-18-2010 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 724787)
Wish I knew...After Take Control looked so good early I was anxious to see this one and can't seem to find it.

It's a unraced filly named Arienza that sold for 800K at Kee Sale to Robert and Lowana Lowe. Didn't check for works.

RockHardTen1985 11-18-2010 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 724809)
It's a unraced filly named Arienza that sold for 800K at Kee Sale to Robert and Lowana Lowe. Didn't check for works.

So I got all excited for nothing. Thanks for the info, dude.....

tjfla 11-19-2010 02:47 PM

Fields for next week are coming into focus

Ky Jockey Club

In
Rogue Romance
Astrology

Possible
Z Appeal
Major Gain
Santiva
Trubs-If cant get into Jackpot
Justin Phillip-If cant get into Jackpot
Caleb's Posse
Halo's Thunder

Slim Possible
Brethern

Remsen

In
To Honor and Serve
Bandbox
Curlinello

Possible
Mountain Town
Mucho Macho Man

Betsy 11-19-2010 04:45 PM

Buffum is going in the Remsen

tjfla 11-23-2010 04:04 PM

Curlinello is out of the Remsen with Broken Cannon Bone

my miss storm cat 11-23-2010 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 723865)
1. To Honor and Serve
2. Uncle Mo
3. Sway Away
4. Dialed In
5. Astrology
6. Santiva


Discuss....
Figured a change from all the Z and HOY crap is needed.
Anyone have any maiden winners that they think will move up?
I did a ton of research to come up with this list, and the Derby winner is likely on it.

Give The Factor a bit more time before you finalize any list. :)

http://www.pedigreequery.com/the+factor2

Left Bank 11-23-2010 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 724497)
RHT and I have a deal. He can't say anything overly good, or anything bad, about any IC offspring. With that in mind, he's given you the reverse mush.

I have money that says Rock Tard blows that deal...

lemoncrush 11-23-2010 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 726618)
Give The Factor a bit more time before you finalize any list. :)

http://www.pedigreequery.com/the+factor2

Despite the hype, you might want to see him actually start in a race, don't you think?

my miss storm cat 11-23-2010 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by lemoncrush (Post 726622)
Despite the hype, you might want to see him actually start in a race, don't you think?

Wow you're right!

That was pretty stupid of me to say he was the Derby winner. :rolleyes:

Should have said something like... oh I don't know maybe let's see if he's any good... you know, give him more time, before you finalize any list since you're (RHT) saying the Derby winner is on the list in the original post.

Why on earth I proclaimed him the Derby winner... no, the triple crown winner (!!!) is beyond me.

The excitement of the moment I suppose...

Indian Charlie 11-23-2010 05:43 PM

What hype?

my miss storm cat 11-23-2010 05:59 PM

Go to search, up at the top. Click on advanced searched... enter his name, click on by post, Paddock, show as posts and you'll see how often he's been discussed.

Ummm, never.

Indian Charlie 11-23-2010 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 726635)
Go to search, up at the top. Click on advanced searched... enter his name, click on by post, Paddock, show as posts and you'll see how often he's been discussed.

Ummm, never.

Why are you a fan of that horse?

lemoncrush 11-23-2010 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 726650)
Why are you a fan of that horse?

Not hyped on here. He dropped from 200-1 to 60-1 at Wynn, and he's never been entered in a race. Lots of buzz about this Baffert horse, who may turn up in a Maiden race soon. Who knows. Could end up being as great as Fusachi Samurai, Point Determined or Sequoyah. :p

RockHardTen1985 11-23-2010 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by lemoncrush (Post 726690)
Not hyped on here. He dropped from 200-1 to 60-1 at Wynn, and he's never been entered in a race. Lots of buzz about this Baffert horse, who may turn up in a Maiden race soon. Who knows. Could end up being as great as Fusachi Samurai, Point Determined or Sequoyah.


Who are you talking about?

The Indomitable DrugS 11-23-2010 08:18 PM

The Factor

lemoncrush 11-23-2010 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 726696)
Who are you talking about?

I figured you would be all over Baffert's unraced 2-year old.

RockHardTen1985 11-23-2010 10:28 PM

Where is this guy? If healthy he is #1 on my list. http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_u...&v=Er5hILn0Jgc

my miss storm cat 11-23-2010 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 726650)
Why are you a fan of that horse?

I'm not a fan... maybe after a race or two.

I've heard glowing things about him and have been watching the workouts....

We shall see.

my miss storm cat 11-23-2010 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 726738)
Where is this guy? If healthy he is #1 on my list. http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_u...&v=Er5hILn0Jgc

The link goes to holiday stuff. NO idea who you mean!

RockHardTen1985 11-24-2010 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 726744)
The link goes to holiday stuff. NO idea who you mean!


It was a link of Smash breaking his maiden at Hollywood.

my miss storm cat 11-24-2010 12:27 PM

Oh okay!

I was thinking about him a couple of weeks ago... posted in the whatever happened to thread.

Where IS he?

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...ash#post721208

RockHardTen1985 11-24-2010 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 726852)
Oh okay!

I was thinking about him a couple of weeks ago... posted in the whatever happened to thread.

Where IS he?

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...ash#post721208

I dont know. If I knew he was healthy he would be #1 on my list though. His maiden win was STRONG.

Monarchos1 11-25-2010 05:36 PM

I'll take Dialed In and Crossbow, who should be on everyone's list after his debut Saturday.

hockey2315 11-25-2010 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Monarchos1 (Post 727272)
I'll take Crossbow, who should be on everyone's list after his debut Saturday.

This post is ludicrous for several reasons. . . but his dam side is all sprinting.

lemoncrush 11-25-2010 06:03 PM

Ohhh...and here he is, entered on Sunday.The Chosen One!:p

6th (3:06)

6 1/2 Furlongs (All Weather Track) | Open | 2 Year Olds Maiden Special Weight | Purse: $38,000

Post # Horse Jockey Weight Claim Price Equip. Med.
1 Pride of Silver Espinoza V 120 L
2 Quintons Destiny Gomez G K 120 L
3 World Renowned Talamo J 120
4 The Factor Rosario J 120
5 Oakcrest Drive Quinonez A 120 L
6 Dreamy Kid Flores D R 120
7 Balladry Valenzuela P A 120
8 Eric the Ram Maldonado E 120 Blk-Off L
9 All Slews Star Pedroza M A 120 L

my miss storm cat 11-25-2010 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by lemoncrush (Post 727275)
Ohhh...and here he is, entered on Sunday.The Chosen One!:p

6th (3:06)

6 1/2 Furlongs (All Weather Track) | Open | 2 Year Olds Maiden Special Weight | Purse: $38,000

Post # Horse Jockey Weight Claim Price Equip. Med.
1 Pride of Silver Espinoza V 120 L
2 Quintons Destiny Gomez G K 120 L
3 World Renowned Talamo J 120
4 The Factor Rosario J 120
5 Oakcrest Drive Quinonez A 120 L
6 Dreamy Kid Flores D R 120
7 Balladry Valenzuela P A 120
8 Eric the Ram Maldonado E 120 Blk-Off L
9 All Slews Star Pedroza M A 120 L

:p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyQ82...eature=related

Betsy 11-25-2010 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Monarchos1 (Post 727272)
I'll take Dialed In and Crossbow, who should be on everyone's list after his debut Saturday.


He's working very well, but he's got the 1 hole. Also, although he's by Bernardini, his dam was all sprint, so distance might be a problem. I take it the word is out on him?

Betsy 11-27-2010 12:37 PM

Well, that was pretty stupid. Crossbow and Escort killed each other through sizzling fractions. Crossbow put Escort away, but naturally had nothing left and finished 3rd. He's fast and talented, but he's probably just a sprinter - not that there's anything wrong with that.

Indian Charlie 11-27-2010 12:50 PM

That was a pretty brainless ride.

my miss storm cat 11-29-2010 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by lemoncrush (Post 727275)
Ohhh...and here he is, entered on Sunday.The Chosen One!:p

:wf :D

* * *

Anyone have an opinion on Brethren?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4D9y57DFK8


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