Someone earlier asked what is the definition of a Zenyattard. I give you the above.

However, since the person who asked the question is also one, well, it's a mute point (since it will fall on deaf ears, so to speak).

Yo Indian boy … are you still clinging to your (bizarre) belief that Z won't make the BCC? LMAO

Listen pinhead.

I was saying she was around 50/50 in the early to mid summer time range.

Since then, my posts about her not running in the BCC were sarcastic attempts to say that her connections are complete pussies, and that I'm waiting for their usual backtrack, which they've done many many times in the last eighteen months or so.

I realize that might seem too subtle a concept for you to grasp, so go ahead and hold onto whatever you can to make yourself feel that you are right and I am wrong.

Cut Smooth Operator some slack. His world was shattered yesterday.

No it wasn't.

Don't you remember, he hedged his retarded opinion of the last year or so when he realized that not every since facet of this race was not going to be 100% in her favor. That she might actually face some horses that aren't historically the worst group of grade 1 mares ever.

It was shattered in the manner in which it happened. It can't get any crueler for a Zaniac to watch their prized mare lose a race like that because they had hope until the last stride. It would have been better for their mental health if she had finished last.

Maybe.

Then again, had she finished last, their would be a vigil being held right now on her behalf, until official word came down from the vets that she's ok.

LMAO … yeah, whatever you say, Indian boy

Ateam is wrong. You aren't trying to be stupid. You really are stupid.

Is Indian boy supposed to be some sort of insult?

Not only is the Prostate Operator stupid, he also apparently believes that being Indian is some sort of negative thing.

Which brings me back to him being stupid.

What's more idiotic about ol Smoothie? His racing takes on DT, or the fact that he's a fan of the singer of a song with the line that goes "Coast to coast, LA to Chicago, Western male"

I mean really, WTF, Coast to coast, LA to Chicago???????

No need to ask.
He's a prostate operator,
smooth operatard,
smooth operatard,
smooth operatard.

I may have a new signature.

Those two little words (Indian boy) seem to be getting under your skin this evening.






LMAO

The only two words getting under my skin tonight are "Smooth" and "Operator".

Calling me Indian boy had no effect on me at all, other than to make me wonder how calling me an Indian would make you think that you are insulting me.

Keep up the good work. Maybe if you keep laughing your ass off you won't be able to see your monitor and keyboard, nor be able to talk anymore.

I can't wait to see your comeback on that last zinger I just unloaded on you.

Oh wait, you are too stupid to understand what I meant.

Nevermind.

You're right, Rachel shouldn't have won the 2009 HOY because of how mediocre she was going to be in 2010. Makes perfect sense. Get mad at Zenyatta's connections, not at Blame. Had they treated her like the champion they said she was, she likely would've been one this year.

Once again, you're confusing most talented horse with HOY. Blame's accomplishments this year dwarf Zenyatta's even if his Classic winning margin doesn't. It's not even debatable.

Serious question: What makes her the greatest female horse of all time? I'm not being a 'hater', I honestly don't understand how this is the conclusion drawn from her career. Is she in the conversation? Sure. But there have been a ton of great females and I find it hard to believe that they couldn't have been as successful as her with her campaigns.

I also disagree with the notion that her reputation was enhanced in the loss. Her reputation had become that of one of the greatest horses of all time. It was a ridiculous reputation and unfair to her. How can that kind of reputation be enhanced by her losing to one of the slowest Classic winners in the history of the race?

yeah, i saw that later that fly down got past him. not that it matters, he still didn't get second for my ex. thanks for your help.

darn those pesky eclipse voters for not being prescient about the year following the season the award was being given. the nerve of them!

Well, we already know how dummies like Joe Drape and Jay Hovdey are voting, so I'd say Zenyatta is still going to get HOTY for beating Switch and Rinterval a few times. Whether she deserves it for her 2010 campaign or not is an entirely different conversation.

There really is no conversation. It's a travesty if she wins it.

Is there really enough doubt about this to have a discussion??? Zenyatta's lifetime best race was 2nd place. Uncle Month was the best BC Juvenile winner I think I've seen. But Blame wins 4 of 5 against the best competition. Highway robbery if he doesn't get it.

Uncle Month! Someone is typing on their blackberry...

In any event, I think it would be a travesty if Blame isn't horse of the year, but come on, guys, does anybody really think that is going to happen?

The connections made their bed. I hope they are more gracious and applaud the deserving winner this time around.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...beats-zenyatta

Video at the end of the article - Post race news conference. I thought Hancock and Stall were particularly classy in their comments about Zenyatta.
But, I guess it will be fodder for further argument.:(

Not taking sides here but that was a pretty sweet set up. Well done!:tro:

As for the topic, Blame certainly deserves HOY. There really is no debate. I still cling to the notion that Zenyatta should have been HOY in 2009 but that is a moot point as well.

Goldikova was the best horse to run in AMerica this year and isn't that how you determine it?? She's HOY and it's not even debatable.

She really is isnt she?

I cant' believe I have been posting in the Paddock the last 24 hours. It is perhaps the dumbest thing I've ever done in my life.

The feeling is mutual.

At 8f on grass, YES.

So how dumb am I really. Be straight and not funny with me? How does my dumbness hurt the historical integrity of Derby Trail??

Something does not feel right with a horse like Blame getting HO anything...
He is best older horse and thats only because they all sucked. He is the best of a terrible, terrible group.

so...zenyatta is part of a terrible, terrible group now? you hater, you. :D


but i can't help but think that had zenyatta won, this group wouldn't be considered terrible. she would have achieved great things vs a deep field.

I was never one of the people saying how great this group was. I thought QR was really good, same with Lucky. But as a group, ugh.

Right, and he beat the piss out of both of them yesterday. So Blame is undeserving because you don't like him?

I would rather see them give it to Z as more of a lifetime thing, no way she does not deserve to be named HOY.

Horse of the Year. Year. Year. Year. She does not deserve any of them. Stop it.

Blame beat the current HOY favorites in both of his biggest races this year - QR in the Whitney and Z in the Classic. Everyone needs to get a grip. There is no debate.

Do you think Blame is better?

THAT'S NOT WHAT THE AWARD IS FOR. Seriously. This isn't going anywhere good. Go back to believing what you write.

I know what HOY is, but now Im asking you a serious question. Do you think Blame is better?