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RockHardTen1985 09-21-2010 05:04 PM

It is not concussion related, he is the permanent starting QB.
Im happy for him, he deserves it.

ateamstupid 09-21-2010 05:05 PM

So much for Kolb being 'the guy'. Dude gets three snaps and then adios. Life as a Philly QB.

RockHardTen1985 09-21-2010 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 698024)
So much for Kolb being 'the guy'. Dude gets three snaps and then adios. Life as a Philly QB.

Just from a football point of view, Vick gives them a better chance to win. He also makes them more explosive and likely sells more tickets. Its a win win win for everyone, even those road games. Hate him or love him, I think he will still sell tickets, even if its for people who want to come and see him fail.

Antitrust32 09-21-2010 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 698024)
So much for Kolb being 'the guy'. Dude gets three snaps and then adios. Life as a Philly QB.

thats fucl<ed up.

give the guy a 1/2 audition to be the starting QB against the one of the top 3 D's in football and with the worst O-line in football?

and then bench him!!!!


Do I have to root for a dog murderer all season???

Antitrust32 09-21-2010 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 698026)
Just from a football point of view, Vick gives them a better chance to win. He also makes them more explosive and likely sells more tickets. Its a win win win for everyone, even those road games. Hate him or love him, I think he will still sell tickets, even if its for people who want to come and see him fail.

eagles games are sold out.. every which one even if Rock Hard Ten was named starting QB

Smooth Operator 09-21-2010 09:13 PM

Good to see common sense prevailing with the Birds' coaching staff on this one


"One dimensional" ... are you joking, slot???

Mike has like the fourth or fifth highest passer rating in the league so far … not to mention what he can do with his legs.

This guy is hungry, confident, and clearly ready to lead this offense.

dalakhani 09-21-2010 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 698027)
thats fucl<ed up.

give the guy a 1/2 audition to be the starting QB against the one of the top 3 D's in football and with the worst O-line in football?

and then bench him!!!!


Do I have to root for a dog murderer all season???

:confused:

I think you meant Green Bay. Kolb played against Green Bay the first week of the season. When did Philly play against Pittsburgh, Baltimore or the jets?

I will agree about the worst line in football part. When you make Detroit look like the 85 bears, there are some serious protection issues.

dalakhani 09-21-2010 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 698097)
Good to see common sense prevailing with the Birds' coaching staff on this one


"One dimensional" ... are you joking, slot???

Mike has like the fourth or fifth highest passer rating in the league so far … not to mention what he can do with his legs.

This guy is hungry, confident, and clearly ready to lead this offense.

agreed. He played extremely well in both games.

slotdirt 09-21-2010 09:22 PM

If Detroit looked like the '85 Bears, I don't think the Eagles would have put 35 on the board the other day.

I'll always contend that a team that wants to win won't have Michael Vick as their starting quarterback. It didn't work in Atlanta, and it won't work in Philly. This is a 6-10 team waiting to happen.

P.S. - the Lions have the worst secondary - nay, the worst defense overall - in the entire league. If not for LeSean McCoy having the best game of his career, you're talking about an Eagles loss to the woeful Lions and an 0-2 start. Anybody who actually watched the game the other day (I'm presuming only AntiTrust and myself did based on comments here) would realize that Vick was hardly the reason the Eagles won the game. This isn't baseball; stats can definitely lie.

dalakhani 09-21-2010 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 697298)
Eagles will never make the playoffs with Vick as a starter. Too one dimensional.

Against Green Bay, he threw for 175 yards and ran for 103

Against Detroit, he threw for 284 and ran for 37

If anything, he is one of the most multi dimensional players in the game. That is one thing you can't dog him for.

Sorry, i couldnt resist that last line.

dalakhani 09-21-2010 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 698107)
If Detroit looked like the '85 Bears, I don't think the Eagles would have put 35 on the board the other day.

I'll always contend that a team that wants to win won't have Michael Vick as their starting quarterback. It didn't work in Atlanta, and it won't work in Philly. This is a 6-10 team waiting to happen.

Want to wager on the 6-10 thing?

It didn't "work" in atlanta? Didnt they make it to the NFC Title game? Is that not working?

RockHardTen1985 09-21-2010 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 698097)
Good to see common sense prevailing with the Birds' coaching staff on this one


"One dimensional" ... are you joking, slot???

Mike has like the fourth or fifth highest passer rating in the league so far … not to mention what he can do with his legs.

This guy is hungry, confident, and clearly ready to lead this offense.

Agree 100%

dalakhani 09-21-2010 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 698107)
If Detroit looked like the '85 Bears, I don't think the Eagles would have put 35 on the board the other day.

I'll always contend that a team that wants to win won't have Michael Vick as their starting quarterback. It didn't work in Atlanta, and it won't work in Philly. This is a 6-10 team waiting to happen.

P.S. - the Lions have the worst secondary - nay, the worst defense overall - in the entire league. If not for LeSean McCoy having the best game of his career, you're talking about an Eagles loss to the woeful Lions and an 0-2 start. Anybody who actually watched the game the other day (I'm presuming only AntiTrust and myself did based on comments here) would realize that Vick was hardly the reason the Eagles won the game. This isn't baseball; stats can definitely lie.

He got sacked 6 times and there was pressure all day. Hence the 85 bears comment. And if you indeed watched the game you would see that they sent blitz after blitz against them all day long. You did watch the game didnt you?

hurricanefrank 09-21-2010 09:29 PM

Vick isn't a passer, never has been, never will be. The Eagles are a .500 team with him or without him. Running QBs don't win Super Bowls. Funny how Kolb was just the means to the end - excuse to run McNabb outta Philly. It's either that or Reid is/was wrong about Kolb.

clyde 09-21-2010 09:29 PM

More blind Vick fans.



2 games and they're off and stumbling.

dalakhani 09-21-2010 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hurricanefrank (Post 698117)
Vick isn't a passer, never has been, never will be. The Eagles are a .500 team with him or without him. Running QBs don't win Super Bowls. Funny how Kolb was just the means to the end - excuse to run McNabb outta Philly. It's either that or Reid is/was wrong about Kolb.

Steve Young?

hurricanefrank 09-21-2010 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 698119)
Steve Young?

Steve Young threw for 232 TDs. The ability to run was an added dimension.

clyde 09-21-2010 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hurricanefrank (Post 698123)
Steve Young threw for 232 TDs. The ability to run was an added dimension.


That's tellin' her ,Franky.



An obvious answer...but a good one.

dalakhani 09-21-2010 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hurricanefrank (Post 698123)
Steve Young threw for 232 TDs. The ability to run was an added dimension.

Are you kidding? He was a purely run first QB for a good part of his career. That was always the complaint against him. That is why they wanted to run him out of town in his first couple of years after taking over for Montana. Even Rice complained about it in the beginning. Why do you think Charles Haley had to be traded before he literally killed Young? Added dimension? Please. He was the definition of a running QB.

How about Elway while we are at it? Ran a little?

clyde 09-21-2010 09:41 PM

Oh my God.


She's over the top now.

Someone squirt her.

Smooth Operator 09-21-2010 09:57 PM

Didn't "Roger the Dodger" get a ring or two too, dala?


Birds clearly have some major issues, slot … but Mike is a better qb now than he was in Atl.

clyde 09-21-2010 10:03 PM

Comparing Vick to these guys is ridiculous.

Vick=Bobby Douglas.


MUCH bettah comparison.

jms62 09-22-2010 04:47 AM

When Kolb does come back how effective will he be looking over his shoulder for the hook when he makes a bad play. Eagles unfortunately sold out their future for the short term.. My perdiction is Reid is done after this year.

slotdirt 09-22-2010 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 698116)
He got sacked 6 times and there was pressure all day. Hence the 85 bears comment. And if you indeed watched the game you would see that they sent blitz after blitz against them all day long. You did watch the game didnt you?

Now I know you didn't watch the game. Blitz after blitz? Really? If they were blitzing so much, wouldn't more than one of the five Detroit sacks or three of the 11 QB hits have been from a non-defensive lineman? Detroit is hardly a blitzing team.

Antitrust32 09-22-2010 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 698098)
:confused:

I think you meant Green Bay. Kolb played against Green Bay the first week of the season. When did Philly play against Pittsburgh, Baltimore or the jets?

I will agree about the worst line in football part. When you make Detroit look like the 85 bears, there are some serious protection issues.

I thought I had read that Green Bay was the 2nd ranked Defense last year. Could be wrong.

Antitrust32 09-22-2010 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 698110)
Against Green Bay, he threw for 175 yards and ran for 103

Against Detroit, he threw for 284 and ran for 37

If anything, he is one of the most multi dimensional players in the game. That is one thing you can't dog him for.

Sorry, i couldnt resist that last line.

headlines in the Philly newspaper today:

"TOP DOG"

only in Philly!!

Antitrust32 09-22-2010 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 698164)
When Kolb does come back how effective will he be looking over his shoulder for the hook when he makes a bad play. Eagles unfortunately sold out their future for the short term.. My perdiction is Reid is done after this year.

:tro:

Kolb got bent over on this one. One headache was all it took. Had he not been hurt, he'd still be the guy & we still would have beat Detriot (sorry slot)

Our o-line is just so bad, that had to be a major factor in this decision. Maybe Reid was doing Kolb a favor by not letting him become a vegetable.

:zz:

Antitrust32 09-22-2010 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 698171)
Now I know you didn't watch the game. Blitz after blitz? Really? If they were blitzing so much, wouldn't more than one of the five Detroit sacks or three of the 11 QB hits have been from a non-defensive lineman? Detroit is hardly a blitzing team.

they were throwing zero blitzes out there (blitz more than can be blocked)

You guys could have rushed 3 guys the whole game and still had 5/6 sacks.

slotdirt 09-22-2010 08:13 AM

And that's what they did. The Lions would be retarded to blitz that often because they literally don't have a soul who can cover man-to-man in the back seven. The front four was creating the pressure throughout the game.

And yes, you guys could have had anybody out there playing quarterback and still won.

Smooth Operator 09-22-2010 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clyde (Post 698135)
Comparing Vick to these guys is ridiculous.

Vick=Bobby Douglas.


MUCH bettah comparison.

Not comparing Mike to anyone, Mort

Just shooting down the claim that mobile qbs don't get rings

Smooth Operator 09-22-2010 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 698183)
headlines in the Philly newspaper today:

"TOP DOG"

only in Philly!!

:tro:


Can't wait to see Mike raisin' some hell down in Jax

MaTH716 09-22-2010 09:45 AM

I kind of think that they are committed to Kolb for the future. That being said, with the state of mediocre that is the NFC East (all of a sudden out of the blue), maybe they feel that they could sacrifice Kolb for one more season at this point and make some sort of run with Michael Vick. You would think that even though he has played in regualr season games before, that this was going to be a big learning expierence for Kolb in his first full season as the starting QB. They were probably hoping that Kolb would play well enough to get them to a wildcard spot in what seems to be a transition year for the birds. But now with Dallas starting 0-2 and the Giants and Redskins not playing like world beaters, the birds realize that they have a legitimate shot at winning the division with maybe a more seasoned guy even though he is most likely a short term solution.

Antitrust32 09-22-2010 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 698199)
And that's what they did. The Lions would be retarded to blitz that often because they literally don't have a soul who can cover man-to-man in the back seven. The front four was creating the pressure throughout the game.

And yes, you guys could have had anybody out there playing quarterback and still won.

you guys have a really nice front four.. and awesome skill players on offense.

there will be improvement in Detriot eventually!

clyde 09-22-2010 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 698216)
Not comparing Mike to anyone, Mort

Just shooting down the claim that mobile qbs don't get rings

That's stupid.



They were all qb's first.

Being mobile was an added dimension.I think the point was that someone like Vick never won a ring.

ateamstupid 09-22-2010 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 698182)
I thought I had read that Green Bay was the 2nd ranked Defense last year. Could be wrong.

They also gave up 51 points against Arizona in the playoffs. They're good but overrated.

jms62 09-22-2010 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 698225)
I kind of think that they are committed to Kolb for the future. That being said, with the state of mediocre that is the NFC East (all of a sudden out of the blue), maybe they feel that they could sacrifice Kolb for one more season at this point and make some sort of run with Michael Vick. You would think that even though he has played in regualr season games before, that this was going to be a big learning expierence for Kolb in his first full season as the starting QB. They were probably hoping that Kolb would play well enough to get them to a wildcard spot in what seems to be a transition year for the birds. But now with Dallas starting 0-2 and the Giants and Redskins not playing like world beaters, the birds realize that they have a legitimate shot at winning the division with maybe a more seasoned guy even though he is most likely a short term solution.


Reid also would not guarantee that Kevin Kolb will remain with the team after the Oct. 19 trade deadline, despite touting Kolb's "bright future" in the NFL.

"I can’t predict anything down that far, nobody in this league can do that, that’s ridiculous," Reid said. "The future, we’ll just have to see."

WTF went so horribly wrong for Kolb in less than a half of play that now the coach can't guarantee he won't be traded...

Read more: http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/i..._deadline.html

Smooth Operator 09-22-2010 02:47 PM

It's a dog-eat-dog world, jms62.

And Mike is the big dog in Philly now...

slotdirt 09-22-2010 02:51 PM

^^^^ Philly Daily News ripoff artist.

Smooth Operator 09-22-2010 03:13 PM

^^^ Needs to be muzzled

slotdirt 09-22-2010 03:40 PM

^^^ needs castration.


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