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_ed_ 04-30-2011 07:42 AM

Fine weather, and the track is good to firm. Should be a great day's racing. :)

Arletta 04-30-2011 08:52 AM

Xpress Bet and Twinspires are showing the race. Starts in 20 minutes.

Storm Cadet 04-30-2011 09:11 AM

On TVG also

Arletta 04-30-2011 09:11 AM

Going in the gate..........

_ed_ 04-30-2011 09:16 AM

WOW.

Arletta 04-30-2011 09:16 AM

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!

Sightseek 04-30-2011 09:16 AM

Brilliant!!!!

smuthg 04-30-2011 09:16 AM

He's pretty good... Wow.

Arletta 04-30-2011 09:16 AM

That was incredible!

herkhorse 04-30-2011 09:17 AM

How cool is that? :)

freddymo 04-30-2011 09:17 AM

awesome

_ed_ 04-30-2011 09:19 AM

I'm actually speechless.

TouchOfGrey 04-30-2011 09:22 AM

What everybody else said. Amazing.

Storm Cadet 04-30-2011 09:23 AM

Pretty impressive:D:tro:

RolloTomasi 04-30-2011 09:49 AM

Reminiscent of Hawk Wing in the 2003 Lockinge.

Kasept 04-30-2011 09:50 AM

Truly unbelievable.

booner 04-30-2011 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 772524)
Truly unbelievable.

Okay folks, help me out. I'm at work and didn't get to see it. How impressive was it?

hockey2315 04-30-2011 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booner (Post 772531)
Okay folks, help me out. I'm at work and didn't get to see it. How impressive was it?

From the TDN:

FRANKEL (GB), c, 3, Galileo (Ire)--Kind (Ire), by Danehill.
O-Khalid Abdullah; B-Juddmonte Farms; T-Henry Cecil; J-Tom Queally. Lifetime Record: 6-6-0-0, £493,553.
Some had cast similarities with the great Dubai Millennium (GB) prior to today and Frankel (GB) (Galileo {Ire}) lived up to all the hype and mass of expectation with a ruthless success in the G1 Qipco 2000 Guineas at Newmarket. In front from the outset, Tom Queally let the 1-2 pick use his impressive stride and he had buried all opposition before he reached the quarter pole. Only Dubawi Gold (GB) (Dubawi {Ire}) and Native Khan (Fr) (Azamour {Ire}) could emerge from the pack to chase after that, but Khalid Abdullah's unbeaten colossus was far gone and hit the line six lengths clear of the former, with Native Khan a further half length back with daylight behind him. "He did it better than I even thought he'd do it," Queally said after this breathtaking win. "He just made a show of them and to him that speed feels like a cruising canter."

Thoroughbred Fan 04-30-2011 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 772394)
I read somewhere he's only 7-2 to win by more than 2 lengths. Still, he has pulled hard in his last couple of races, and they've made mention of trying to "settle him down" in his recent training. You can get away with that sort of behavior in those 5- and 6-horse fields he's been burying but he'll face a full field tomorrow and I'm not so sure he'll be enjoying that "geared down" finish he's used to.

He should win, but his jock might have to work on him a bit late.

Not that much work to do late.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thoroughbred Fan (Post 772496)
I just think the horse is a freak.

His trainer said last time was the time he might lose due to being short off the bench against at least one Group winner.

He ran greenly and pulled off easily. He had a ton more horse. I think he can get the Arc distance. Horses with that kind of stamina don't often lose for being a little keen at this distance.

We'll know soon.

NOW WE KNOW!!!

RolloTomasi 04-30-2011 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thoroughbred Fan (Post 772546)
Not that much work to do late.


NOW WE KNOW!!!

You nailed the margin of victory exactly. Congrats.

However, he did start to drift left the final furlong and his jock had to shake him up to maintain. Granted, the race was already over, but the way he finished up still leaves the question of 12f unanswered.

We'll see. Hopefully they go to the Derby whether they have strong reservations or not about the distance. He's a rare horse and deserves a chance to be tested to the extreme.

booner 04-30-2011 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 772532)
From the TDN:

FRANKEL (GB), c, 3, Galileo (Ire)--Kind (Ire), by Danehill.
O-Khalid Abdullah; B-Juddmonte Farms; T-Henry Cecil; J-Tom Queally. Lifetime Record: 6-6-0-0, £493,553.
Some had cast similarities with the great Dubai Millennium (GB) prior to today and Frankel (GB) (Galileo {Ire}) lived up to all the hype and mass of expectation with a ruthless success in the G1 Qipco 2000 Guineas at Newmarket. In front from the outset, Tom Queally let the 1-2 pick use his impressive stride and he had buried all opposition before he reached the quarter pole. Only Dubawi Gold (GB) (Dubawi {Ire}) and Native Khan (Fr) (Azamour {Ire}) could emerge from the pack to chase after that, but Khalid Abdullah's unbeaten colossus was far gone and hit the line six lengths clear of the former, with Native Khan a further half length back with daylight behind him. "He did it better than I even thought he'd do it," Queally said after this breathtaking win. "He just made a show of them and to him that speed feels like a cruising canter."

Thanks hockey.

TouchOfGrey 04-30-2011 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booner (Post 772531)
Okay folks, help me out. I'm at work and didn't get to see it. How impressive was it?

Video here: Phenomenal Frankel blitzes Guineas rivals

TheSpyder 05-01-2011 12:48 PM

What kind of fractions for the race? Do they even keep them?

Arletta 05-03-2011 05:35 AM

http://www.independent.ie/sport/hors...l-2634903.html

Indian Charlie 05-03-2011 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arletta (Post 773197)

I think the announcer got a bit carried away when he called Frankel up by 15.

brockguy 06-14-2011 09:54 AM

chalk up another G1 7/7

RolloTomasi 06-14-2011 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brockguy (Post 784369)
chalk up another G1 7/7

One of the worst rides ever. The only thing worse was the Japanese horse sporting the colors of Secretariat.

Zoffany is OK, but the field overall wasn't imposing. That jockey will get Frankel beat sooner rather than later.

blackthroatedwind 06-14-2011 10:02 AM

That ride was laughably bad. Comical actually.

brockguy 06-14-2011 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 784371)
That ride was laughably bad. Comical actually.

completely agree - I like Queally but not his finest hour

Seattleallstar 06-14-2011 12:19 PM

I am sure there is a very good reason he decided to use all of his horse. Maybe looking back it wasnt a bad ride at all, he had to have known something to ride that way.

RolloTomasi 06-14-2011 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar (Post 784441)
I am sure there is a very good reason he decided to use all of his horse. Maybe looking back it wasnt a bad ride at all, he had to have known something to ride that way.

Like what? He was in perfect position following his own pacesetter and clearing the rest of the field.

Ignoring the rabbit (who was inconsequential after a half-mile), Queally basically opened up a 12 length lead needlessly at the head of the stretch.

He almost got run down by a 50-1 shot who was at the tail of the field and going nowhere when the button was pushed on Frankel.

The horse arguably looked like he was getting weary down the stretch in the Guineas, where Queally let him roll aggressively early to an insurmountable lead (and had a cavalier attitude regarding the ride post-race). He definitely was weary today. At this point, it appears that the rides he's been getting are just as much to blame as any of the stamina concerns for keeping the horse out of the Derby and pigeon-holed as a miler.

OTM Al 06-14-2011 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 784370)
One of the worst rides ever. The only thing worse was the Japanese horse sporting the colors of Secretariat.

Zoffany is OK, but the field overall wasn't imposing. That jockey will get Frankel beat sooner rather than later.

Frankel will get Frankel beat sooner rather than later. He doesn't look able to run in any other way and he will get gobbled up at a short price when he faces older the first time. Good chance he'll be off the board in that venture if they keep this up.

RolloTomasi 06-14-2011 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OTM Al (Post 784513)
Frankel will get Frankel beat sooner rather than later. He doesn't look able to run in any other way and he will get gobbled up at a short price when he faces older the first time. Good chance he'll be off the board in that venture if they keep this up.

I thought the same after the Guineas, but at least today he was settled for the first quarter mile or so. Combined with a couple of his 2yo races, there's still hope he can relax I think. Like I said, I'm starting to think that Queally's overconfidence in the horse (and the resultant ridiculous middle moves) is a major reason why Frankel seems limited by distance.

Bigsmc 06-20-2011 08:52 AM

The jockey, underfire for his mid-race tactical move to rush Frankel past pacemaker Rerouted, said: "They fail to realise I was riding to instructions."
Speaking on a Racing UK Podcast, he added: "He was a bit workmanlike. The pacemaker went off quite quick. I crept closer and Henry was adamant that I should take it up before the bend and that's what we did.

http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse...el/873893/top/

Travis Stone 06-20-2011 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsmc (Post 785804)
The jockey, underfire for his mid-race tactical move to rush Frankel past pacemaker Rerouted, said: "They fail to realise I was riding to instructions."
Speaking on a Racing UK Podcast, he added: "He was a bit workmanlike. The pacemaker went off quite quick. I crept closer and Henry was adamant that I should take it up before the bend and that's what we did.

http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse...el/873893/top/

Interesting...

randallscott35 06-20-2011 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis Stone (Post 785809)
Interesting...

Pass the Buck

brockguy 10-15-2011 09:48 AM

another half decent performance.. good to see the 2nd and 3rd finish as they did to frank the form :)

Arletta 10-15-2011 09:59 AM

Now we wait to see if they bring him here.. Doubt it, but we can hope.

brockguy 10-15-2011 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arletta (Post 811255)
Now we wait to see if they bring him here.. Doubt it, but we can hope.

ye will have to settle for me coming over rather than Frankel :)

freddymo 10-15-2011 10:03 AM

someone post the replay please


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