Really?.....what groups?

Oh, you know, Timmi, those rampantly liberal biased Muslim leftist communist lamestream media people: Media Matters, Citz for Public Interest, FAIR, TPM, etc.

Jon Stewart had a hilarious ComedyCentral episode this past week - he discusses TV coverage of the mosque, then follows a Faux News episode, and doing the same thing Faux did he links Rupert Murdoch through a Saudi Prince (second largest shareholder of News Corp) to Faux News being a domestic terrorist org. It's pretty funny www.thedailyshow.com

I'm sure that's going to kill their business. You should short those two stocks.

You don't want nothing but bad Facebook press during such stagnant times. http://www.ontopmag.com/article.aspx...=1&Category=26

The internet can cause millions of dollars in damage and everlasting bad PR, and it doesn't much matter if something is true or false (for false, see Proctor & Gamble having to spend a couple million to "prove" Febreze Kills Dogs was a false internet rumour, from a few years back)

I asked you a serious question, and you give me a ration of crap? And will you stop with the childish "Faux News"? My God!

That is so clever how she calls it "Faux News". She's really sticking it to them when she says that.

i just know you've posted more than once about their 'news'. how else would you know how they did they job unless you had viewed it? :rolleyes:

but it's so clever, much like nascar with his 'odumbass'.

it's like a mantra...

ZIG, they have their lies n' mistakes covered on the other networks. Riot's correct about this. It's an unprofessional network. If you only counted Gretchen Carlson's mistakes, then it'd still be one of the most unprofessional sources of news ever. It's a joke. They're not fair n' balanced. People dismiss that lie so quickly, and say other networks aren't balanced. O.K., FINE, BUT WHY DO THEY KEEP REPEATING THIS LIE ON THERE? Rupert, there is no way any other network could be as unbalanced as Fox is. Even MSNBC has 3.5 hours of Scarborough n' friends' mainly Conservative talk every week day morning. That's hardly a Liberal's Morning Danish.

I don't think a guy like Sean Hannity claims to be "fair and balanced". But if you watch their actual news (like with Shepherd Smith), I think it is very good. I'd rather watch that than the politically correct nonsense on the networks. As much as you hate political correctness, I would think you would like Fox's news.

We can learn from the insane;they have no inhibitions whatsoever.

I'm angry over a cable channel. That god-damned hallmark channel is sssssooooo not fair!! Cancer always makes me cry!!

:zz: Having "viewed it" is far different from, "so you watch Fox News".

I used to listen to Limbaugh, too, before he, like Faux News, went off the rail of rationality.

Wow, when the shoe is on the other foot on this board, how some do object!

i don't even know who gretchen carlson is. but yeah, i remember reading from another news source about fox making up news. that's just crazy-why would they be surprised if some don't watch or take them seriously? but i also remember (was it cbs?) a made up investigation into truck gas tanks back years ago. each news source should have an office that keeps them straight, and calls out anyone who crosses a line-hell, espn has one!

lifetime. one of the reasons i don't like to go to the in-laws, that's all she watches. ugh

oh, i see. you view it but don't watch it. lol oh christ.

Oh christ is you being unable to see the difference between watching a station on a daily regular basis, and being familiar with it. Seriously, Zig?

There are multiple independent news watching organizations that do this. That is what this thread is about. Stations that do it on a daily basis, versus those that screw up occasionally. Guess which category Faux fits into?

oh, i said you must watch it on a regular basis? where did i say that? i just find it odd, if you take such umbrage, that you would ever watch...er, view it. like i told scuds, i don't even know who the woman is that he mentioned. unlike you, i don't watch/view them ever. i just find the whole thing odd.

i hate fox news, so i view them on occasion. why? why waste your time?

oh, i thought the thread was about a donation made.

Wow. That's a long way to go. Well done.

The thread is about news organizations and the extent of their involvement in politics.

i could say the same. you sure jumped to conclusions and semantics, when in fact no one suggested you had a channel tuned to them 24-7.

Not really. I was talking about the minutes of coverage Faux News gave to particular stories, especially final combat troop withdrawal, and you decided it was more important to change that topic to exactly how much time and in what manner I viewed Faux.

As I said, long way to go just to reach your end goal :D :tro:

yes, well you certainly got me on the right track by making sure i understood you don't watch fox, you view it. that helped immensely. had you said you viewed it to begin with, no doubt this tangent would never have happened. but since i don't share your superiour intellect, it flew right by me. i'll do better next time.

:tro:

I expected better from you. After all, you have all your own teeth.:)

i know...i'm so ashamed. i mean, when she mentioned some stories she'd seen, i automatically assumed that meant she had watched it. but no, she'd only viewed it. i feel so silly. i need to work on my reading comprehension so as not to confuse the two.


edit~well...holy crap. i went back to the beginning of this thread to see where i got derailed, and found this....now maybe i found where i made my mistake, and dared accuse riot of 'watching' fox news. how did i err so badly?!


riot, i am so sorry i mistook what you wrote.

Here is a perfect example of media-bias. It is not a journalist's job to take sides. They are simply supposed to report the story. If I was writing a story about the "Truthers", I would report on how many of them there are and what they believe. I would not report my opinion as fact. I would not say, "The Truthers incorrcectly believe that Pres Bush had something to do with 9/11". I would say, "The Truthers believe that Pres Bush had something to with 9/11". I would not speculate on the accuracy of the belief.

Yet in this article from ABC News about Obama, this is exactly what ABC News does. It is totally inappropriate and it shows their obvious bias. They report people's beliefs as "wrong" and "incorrect".

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/franklin-gr...ry?id=11446462

by the same token, i don't know why any news organization would discuss birthers or truthers at all. news is based on fact, opinion is not fact-so why would they bother with it? the news should report things of importance that happen, not whether people have an opinion of something. that would be better left to non-news shows that discuss happenings.

Yeah, 'Zig, that's exactly what I said. Right.

Yes, it truely must be too hard for you guys to understand: that there is plenty of info about Fox, and the minutes they devote (or not) to particular stories, in the news watchdog orgs (which is what I was talking about when 'Zig decided to introduce "this tangent"); and plenty of short videos of the Faux talking heads all over the political blogs - so no, nobody has to watch Faux News at all to see what they are putting out there - but it's easier for you just to be disingenuous, then insult me. Got it.

That was beautiful.

But when there is no credible evidence, don't you think it's the media's job to report that, too? Why do you think 20% of Americans falsely - yes, falsely - believe Obama is Muslim when he's beyond obviously Christian?

i don't think it's beyond obvious that he's christian. i think what i read on slate is correct, that he's really not religious at all. i think it's all overdone anyway. i don't care who someone prays to, i just care which direction they lead this country. at the end of the day, what does it matter at all what religion he is? i said the same about romney, when people said they wouldn't vote for him because he's a mormon. so what!

Are any of these "independent news watching organizations" going to point out ABC News' obvious bias in this story? This article goes beyond anything that Fox News would do.

I still can't get over it. We all know that many politicians are not honest about their true beliefs. They're not got going to tell you their true beliefs if they think it will cost them votes. Obama claims he's a Christian. He may in fact be a Christian. But some Americans are skeptical. About 20% of Americans suspect that Obama may be a Muslim. I'm sure that plenty of politicians (both Republican and Democrats) are atheists but claim to be Christians just to get votes.

There is no way to truly know what any of these politicians really believe. Does Bill Clinton have a deep belief in God? Who knows. But just because he says he does, it doesn't mean that people have to believe it.

Anyway, I don't know how ABC News can say that people are "wrong" and "incorrect" for not believing Obama is a Christian. That is totally unprofessional and shows an obvious bias on the part of ABC News.

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/franklin-gr...ry?id=11446462

When the haters in this country are right now actively and aggressively ginning up hate for Muslims, yeah, I think it matters alot that some are spreading the lie that the President of the United States is Muslim.

And you are right about Romney, during the last election cycle it was spread with his name associated, that "Mormons are a polygamous cult!".

Yes, they do all the time. Some are far better than others, but plenty of "left wing" bias and falsehoods are pointed out, too.

Probably because Obama himself has publically said he is a Christian.

There's also years of back-info and evidence about him attending Christian services.

Nonsense. It's reporting the truth. The problem today seems that many readily confuse truth with ... something else.

If someone has other provable information - not fear-mongering - that the President of the United States is lying, bring it on. So far that's been a pretty big fail on the part of many.

It's not because they're misinformed. I don't think any of these people think that Obama claims to be a Muslim. They know he claims to be a Christian. They don't believe him.

I'm sure plenty of these people saw Obama's interview with George Stephanapolous where Obama mentions "my Muslim faith". I know that Obama may have just misspoke but it could have been a "Fruedian Slip" too.

The guy's father was a Muslim. In addition, I don't think any true Christian would have gone to Jeremiah Wright's church for all those years.

Despite all of this, I still think there is a good chance that Obama is a Christian. If I had to bet on it, I would guess he's probably a Christian, but I'm certainly not confident about it. I can totally see why people would be skeptical and would suspect he's a Muslim.

If ABC News did a story about this site, they would probably say that people on this site "wrongly" and incorrectly" don't believe that Riot is a Republican.