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randallscott35 08-12-2010 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 682141)
Where is the cupcake game? Who the hell knows? Predicting who's going to be good in the NFL is like throwing darts, in the dark, at a fly. It's fun to try to mark off wins and losses before the season, but nine times out of ten those predictions look completely retarded by Week 8.

Thanks for proving my point. :D

Scav 08-12-2010 12:33 PM

Scav's Jets predictions
 
1: Baltimore = W
2: New England = W
3: @ Miami = W
4: @ Buffalo = W
5: Minnesota = Dependent on Favre but likely W
6: @ Denver = L
7: Bye
8: Green bay = W
9: @ Detroit = W
10: @ Cleveland = W
11: Houston = L
12: Cincy = W
13: @ New England = W
14: Miami = L
15: @ Pittsburgh = L
16: @ Bears = W
17: Buffalo = W

And that is being generous to some teams like Denver because I am figuring the Jets will be thinking about relaxing next week. 12-4 is pretty simple with that schedule

Scav 08-12-2010 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 682141)
Where is the cupcake game? Who the hell knows? Predicting who's going to be good in the NFL is like throwing darts, in the dark, at a fly. It's fun to try to mark off wins and losses before the season, but nine times out of ten those predictions look completely retarded by Week 8.

It is far from throwing darts. I just did the Jets schedule, we'll see how good or bad I do

randallscott35 08-12-2010 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 682143)
1: Baltimore = W
2: New England = W
3: Miami = W
4: Buffalo = W
5: Minnesota = Dependent on Favre but likely W
6: Denver = L
7: Bye
8: Green bay = W
9: @ Detroit = W
10: @ Cleveland = W
11: Houston = L
12: Cincy = W
13: @ New England = W
14: Miami = L
15: @ Pittsburgh = L
16: @ Bears = W
17: Buffalo = W

And that is being generous to some teams like Denver because I am figuring the Jets will be thinking about relaxing next week. 12-4 is pretty simple with that schedule

OMG, they could be 1-2 with those first 3 games easy.

Scav 08-12-2010 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 682152)
OMG, they could be 1-2 with those first 3 games easy.

New England is gonna suck, I'll agree that 2-1 is more likely then 3-0 but Rex will have them ready early.

MaTH716 08-12-2010 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 682157)
New England is gonna suck, I'll agree that 2-1 is more likely then 3-0 but Rex will have them ready early.

I actually think they lose the opener against the Ravens.

ateamstupid 08-12-2010 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 682142)
Thanks for proving my point. :D

The same rule goes for predicting who's going to suck. Especially if that prediction has no roots in logic.

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 682145)
It is far from throwing darts. I just did the Jets schedule, we'll see how good or bad I do

:rolleyes: according to your schedule, we only have five away games. So yeah, 12-4 makes sense then.

Scav 08-12-2010 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 682159)
The same rule goes for predicting who's going to suck. Especially if that prediction has no roots in logic.



:rolleyes: according to your schedule, we only have five away games. So yeah, 12-4 makes sense then.

So sorry I forgot to put an away notion on there. LOL @ you....

You must not watch enough NFL or follow it closely to know who is going to be brutal and who is improved. There is obviously teams that will surprise you, but it isn't the rocket science you are making it out to be

Crown@club 08-12-2010 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 682138)
I don't agree with that at all. There are always a couple teams that improve and a couple that sulk and some that basically get screwed by injuries, but a team's schedule is very very important, and analyzing it should paint a decent enough picture for the real fans that understand how it all comes together.

Look at the Bears for example, they have zero shot to be any good this year and some has to do with their scheduling.

For starters.....
Week 2: At Dallas
Week 3: Green Bay
Week 4: At Giants

Then their last 8 games are
Week 10: Minnesota
Week 11: @ Miami
Week 12: Philly
Week 13: @ Detroit
Week 14: New England
Week 15: @ Minnesota
Week 16: Jets
Week 17: @ Green Bay

Where is the cupcake game there? Its brutal.

Next year, they will be a very good team after finishing 6-10 this year, and getting a cupcake schedule because of 'last years' finish.

This is the type of schedule that got Dikta fired, when they went 1-8 in the last nine games. They can start out 5-3 and tease everyone, and then finish at best 7-9 when all said and done.

Scav 08-12-2010 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Crown@club (Post 682161)
This is the type of schedule that got Dikta fired, when they went 1-8 in the last nine games. They can start out 5-3 and tease everyone, and then finish at best 7-9 when all said and done.

They are talking around here like they are gonna win the division this year and they have ZERO chance. You are right about 7-9, that is best case scenario. I would rather be 4-12 this year so we can play a 4-12 schedule, get a draft pick, and then win the division next year.

Someone tell me what the o/u on Bears wins this year, I am guessing they have it at 7.5 or 8

Crown@club 08-12-2010 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 682143)
1: Baltimore = W
2: New England = W
3: @ Miami = W
4: @ Buffalo = W
5: Minnesota = Dependent on Favre but likely W
6: @ Denver = L
7: Bye
8: Green bay = W
9: @ Detroit = W
10: @ Cleveland = W
11: Houston = L
12: Cincy = W
13: @ New England = W
14: Miami = L
15: @ Pittsburgh = L
16: @ Bears = W
17: Buffalo = W

And that is being generous to some teams like Denver because I am figuring the Jets will be thinking about relaxing next week. 12-4 is pretty simple with that schedule

Wow! I didn't realize this. I don't think 10 wins is going to be a problem with this group. Revis will be going by Game 1. Jets are offering 10 year 120 mil. to Revis wanting $160.

Denver is going to be horrid. Dumervil is a HUGE loss.

ateamstupid 08-12-2010 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 682160)
So sorry I forgot to put an away notion on there. LOL @ you....

You must not watch enough NFL or follow it closely to know who is going to be brutal and who is improved. There is obviously teams that will surprise you, but it isn't the rocket science you are making it out to be

Dude, just stop. The whole 'you must not watch football' thing blew up on you last year, don't make an ass out of yourself yet again. 14 seasons in a row, at least 5 teams who missed the playoffs the year before made it. Parity is putting it lightly. Like I said, it's cool to try and mark off wins and losses, but only if you realize how retarded those predictions will look in two months.

Coach Pants 08-12-2010 01:09 PM

Joey you've got to be worried about Revis. That situation could blow the whole season up.

ateamstupid 08-12-2010 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 682170)
Joey you've got to be worried about Revis. That situation could blow the whole season up.

It'd be real bad if he doesn't play obviously, but they're doing the right thing not caving in to him. Cromartie has been great in camp and hopefully with an improved pass rush we can protect Wilson on the other side. Also, I think the offense, which leaned so heavily on the defense last year, will be much improved and could offset some of the defensive setbacks if Revis is out.

What cracks me up is that no one on the goddamn earth besides Jet fans knew who Revis was a year ago, and now if you listen to the media he's the most important player in the history of everything.

Coach Pants 08-12-2010 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 682173)
It'd be real bad if he doesn't play obviously, but they're doing the right thing not caving in to him. Cromartie has been great in camp and hopefully with an improved pass rush we can protect Wilson on the other side. Also, I think the offense, which leaned so heavily on the defense last year, will be much improved and could offset some of the defensive setbacks if Revis is out.

What cracks me up is that no one on the goddamn earth besides Jet fans knew who Revis was a year ago, and now if you listen to the media he's the most important player in the history of everything.

They need to give him guaranteed money. Chances are he's going to be a top 3 corner for the next 5 years. So give him the long term deal and move on.

ateamstupid 08-12-2010 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 682175)
They need to give him guaranteed money. Chances are he's going to be a top 3 corner for the next 5 years. So give him the long term deal and move on.

The problem is they're not going to talk guarantees until they agree on base compensation. Revis has to let the getting more money per year than Asomugha thing go. Al Davis is a moron and the Jets aren't going to allow him to set the market by grossly overpaying his best corner. The Jets are offering Revis 10 years/$120 million (which will probably translate to $30-$40 million guaranteed), which seems more than fair considering the guy, you know, has THREE YEARS LEFT ON HIS CONTRACT as it is. It was Revis' agents who insisted on the sixth year of his rookie deal by the way.

Cannon Shell 08-12-2010 02:09 PM

When figuring the Jets w/l assume 2 losses to Miami and go from there.

ateamstupid 08-12-2010 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 682202)
When figuring the Jets w/l assume 2 losses to Miami and go from there.

Totally. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolphins–Jets_rivalry

gales0678 08-12-2010 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 682143)
1: Baltimore = W
2: New England = W
3: @ Miami = W
4: @ Buffalo = W
5: Minnesota = Dependent on Favre but likely W
6: @ Denver = L
7: Bye
8: Green bay = W
9: @ Detroit = W
10: @ Cleveland = W
11: Houston = L
12: Cincy = W
13: @ New England = W
14: Miami = L
15: @ Pittsburgh = L
16: @ Bears = W
17: Buffalo = W

And that is being generous to some teams like Denver because I am figuring the Jets will be thinking about relaxing next week. 12-4 is pretty simple with that schedule


scav there is no way they go 5-1 in the divsion , no way no how

there is no way they win 3 games in a row in games 2-4 against the afc east ,not going to happen

they will not win both games against gb and minn

10 and 6 will be good very good for this team

Scav 08-12-2010 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 682167)
Dude, just stop. The whole 'you must not watch football' thing blew up on you last year, don't make an ass out of yourself yet again. 14 seasons in a row, at least 5 teams who missed the playoffs the year before made it. Parity is putting it lightly. Like I said, it's cool to try and mark off wins and losses, but only if you realize how retarded those predictions will look in two months.

Do tell on last year

docicu3 08-12-2010 11:46 PM

Until the Jets start calling plays that FEATURE their quarterback because they believe in him instead of hiding him, like they did the entire 2009 season, we will not be able to understand how good the NY Jets are. Sanchez is the question not Reevis.

ateamstupid 08-12-2010 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 682389)
Do tell on last year

Really? Did you not see Bob's signature for most of the past year?

hi_im_god 08-13-2010 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by docicu3 (Post 682394)
Until the Jets start calling plays that FEATURE their quarterback because they believe in him instead of hiding him, like they did the entire 2009 season, we will not be able to understand how good the NY Jets are. Sanchez is the question not Reevis.

sanchez doesn't need to be a feature qb if all the jets have to do is score 17-24 points to win most games.

he needs to be moderately competent with that defense. that isn't a stretch.

Scav 08-13-2010 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 682395)
Really? Did you not see Bob's signature for most of the past year?

That is speaking about GREEN BAY. It should be taken in the same manner as when Jets fans talk about Miami

WOW!

ateamstupid 08-13-2010 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 682399)
That is speaking about GREEN BAY. It should be taken in the same manner as when Jets fans talk about Miami

WOW!

Regardless, that 'you must not watch football' bullshit is stupid. It's little man syndrome talk. We all watch football here, and the fact remains that it's by far the toughest team sport to predict year in and year out.

Antitrust32 08-13-2010 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 682400)
Regardless, that 'you must not watch football' bullshit is stupid. It's little man syndrome talk. We all watch football here, and the fact remains that it's by far the toughest team sport to predict year in and year out.

I predict the Eagles will be a better team with Kevin Kolb. They have a very tough schedule, and may not have a ton of success this particular year.. but I expect an Aaron Rogers type progression.

from NFC east blog: McNabb being heckled by some Skins fans already.. not looking accurate, throwing lots of INT, having trouble learning the playbook.


Granted its just camp & that doesnt mean much.


I fully expect that Jason Campbell will have a better year than McNabb also.

Putting this **** out there for bragging rights or crow eating rights at the end of the year.

gales0678 08-13-2010 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 682431)
I predict the Eagles will be a better team with Kevin Kolb. They have a very tough schedule, and may not have a ton of success this particular year.. but I expect an Aaron Rogers type progression.

from NFC east blog: McNabb being heckled by some Skins fans already.. not looking accurate, throwing lots of INT, having trouble learning the playbook.


Granted its just camp & that doesnt mean much.


I fully expect that Jason Campbell will have a better year than McNabb also.

Putting this **** out there for bragging rights or crow eating rights at the end of the year.



that stuff in ocala must be pretty good

MaTH716 08-13-2010 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by gales0678 (Post 682455)
that stuff in ocala must be pretty good

I don't think that's a huge stretch.......

Think about it, the Redskins don't have great weapons for McNabb and they also have to play in a much better divison than the Black and Silver.

I wouldn't be suprised if Campbell has a better year.

gales0678 08-13-2010 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 682459)
I don't think that's a huge stretch.......

Think about it, the Redskins don't have great weapons for McNabb and they also have to play in a much better divison than the Black and Silver.

I wouldn't be suprised if Campbell has a better year.



i will say mcnabb throws for more td's and has a better td/int rate than campbell

Antitrust32 08-13-2010 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by gales0678 (Post 682477)
i will say mcnabb throws for more td's and has a better td/int rate than campbell

Gotta remember that McNabb doesnt play for Andy Reid anymore.

Dont think Shanahan will throw the ball 4 times when you are first and goal from the 2 yard line.

Andy, he will throw the ball 4 times.

Skins O-line is so poor that the most accurate prediction would be to predict some type of injury to McNabb during the season. History repeats itself.

I will say that Campbell has a higher QB rating at the end of the season, and the Raiders have a better W-L record. both teams miss the playoffs.

The Indomitable DrugS 08-13-2010 09:47 AM

My favorite part of Hard Knocks was when Rex gave Complainian Tomlinson a copy of all the negative things that have been written about him.

gales0678 08-13-2010 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 682486)
Gotta remember that McNabb doesnt play for Andy Reid anymore.

Dont think Shanahan will throw the ball 4 times when you are first and goal from the 2 yard line.

Andy, he will throw the ball 4 times.

Skins O-line is so poor that the most accurate prediction would be to predict some type of injury to McNabb during the season. History repeats itself.

I will say that Campbell has a higher QB rating at the end of the season, and the Raiders have a better W-L record. both teams miss the playoffs.



i'll take my chance with shanhan/mcnabb over cable/campbell

mcnabb beat him in td's , fewer int's and qb rating , throw in yds as well

you philly fans are going to miss him

Antitrust32 08-13-2010 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by gales0678 (Post 682513)
i'll take my chance with shanhan/mcnabb over cable/campbell

mcnabb beat him in td's , fewer int's and qb rating , throw in yds as well

you philly fans are going to miss him

LOL

yes, we will miss him so much that our Coach and GM and owner were willing to trade him to a division rival. If that doesnt speak volumes, nothing does.

McNabb is so great that he basically had the same trade value as AJ Feeley when we traded him a few years ago.

Besides, McNabb of 2010 is not near the same as McNabb of 1999-2005. he's years past his prime, just like the majority of the Redskins.

Cannon Shell 08-13-2010 01:23 PM

Jason Campbell is the next Jim Plunkett

Crown@club 08-13-2010 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 682614)
Jason Campbell is the next Jim Plunkett

Hey thats a quote watch it. ;)

I can't get the article up but crazy Al has come out to say it.
What's his other quote, oh yea.

"Davis also compared the team to his Super Bowl winning 1980 squad, chances are Campbell will fall short of the delusional expectations. Still, he figures to be Oakland's first true leader under center since Rich Gannon."

gales0678 08-13-2010 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 682526)
LOL

yes, we will miss him so much that our Coach and GM and owner were willing to trade him to a division rival. If that doesnt speak volumes, nothing does.

McNabb is so great that he basically had the same trade value as AJ Feeley when we traded him a few years ago.

Besides, McNabb of 2010 is not near the same as McNabb of 1999-2005. he's years past his prime, just like the majority of the Redskins.

mcnabb was pretty good 2 yrs ago in the playoffs , jason campbell will never win a playoff game

declansharbor 08-13-2010 07:04 PM

Hard Knocks is GENIUS!! Love Rex Ryan at the helm.

Expecting big things from both the Eagles and the Jets this year. Eagles always outshine expectations when they are picked to be average. The Jets are just, well, loaded on paper. Am foaming at the mouth for this year to play out!!!

GPK 08-13-2010 07:57 PM

Some fool at work bet me that the Redskins would win the NFC East this year.:rolleyes:

ateamstupid 08-13-2010 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 682714)
Some fool at work bet me that the Redskins would win the NFC East this year.:rolleyes:

People in the Potomac are delusional about the Redskins? You don't say. They look pretty sharp tonight at least.

declansharbor 08-14-2010 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK (Post 682714)
Some fool at work bet me that the Redskins would win the NFC East this year.:rolleyes:

The defense has always been there. They werent going anywhere with Campbell at the helm, so 5 could very well put them over the top. It's a matter of the O-line keeping McNabb upright, and the AARP running back commitee.


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