I've been becoming less enamored with the Obama administration as time goes on (for very different reasons than Nascar, Rupert, joeydb, etc), but this is shameful.

They're letting a sack like Andrew Breitbart dictate their personnel decisions?! They're terrified, they've got no spine, and I'm sick of it. They've spent a year and a half letting dishonest blowhards from the other side run their ship.

Brian I said a week or two ago he needs to clean house.

He will wait until November but he should start sending some of them home right now.

Do you remember in what context you said that? At least when you're not making fun of people you're legitimately spiteful of all things political from both parties, and I am legitimately interested in elaboration on this, if you care to.

I agree with that assessment. They tried the post-partisan crap and it blew up in their faces. Take off the cup and run the freaking country the way the majority of the electorate elected you to do so.

Exactly. If you're going to get voted out, at least get voted out after doing the things you promised to do rather than getting voted out for doing everything in a half-assed way because you're scared.

Probably in one of the BP threads.

I would look it up but the house next to mine just caught on fire and I have to go golfing.

If you need it any thicker just let me know.

Edit: Wrong disaster

Guess who...

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...ma+clean+house

You can't blame me for having not heard the whole speech at the time I made the post. The whole speech was not out there at the time. I had the same opinion as everyone else who had heard the 2 minute clip.

By the way, I wouldn't be shocked if Breitbart hadn't even heard the whole speech.

You go on and on about what a liar Breibart is. Tell me about all the things he has lied about over the years. I doubt he is any worse than any patisan with an agenda, which includes many in the mainstream media. Most of these partisans (whether from the left or the right) just give you half the story.

It's known as a sting operation and Acorn was exposed. But you blame it on the people who shot the video and the editing. Ok, whatever you say Riot.

How do you explain all the voter fraud perpetrated by Acorn? I guess that's not their fault either. Acorn must be the victim. It's the people who exposed the voter fraud who are the bad ones.

breitbart has had the entire speech since march. he did selective editing and then released it in response to the racist charges levelled at a teaparty member.

and yes, both sides have partisans who selectively use what they see fit to further their agenda, doesn't mean we have to accept or tolerate it.

http://www.slate.com/id/2261552/

Amen Canard
Breitbart lied about Shirley Sherrod. Now he's lying about the NAACP.
By William Saletan
Posted Friday, July 23, 2010, at 7:38 AM ET


Andrew Breitbart made a mistake. Based on a two-minute video excerpt of Shirley Sherrod's speech at an NAACP dinner last year, he accused her of practicing racism as a federal employee. He neglected to mention that in the excerpt, she was clearly talking about events in a different job 20 years ago. And when the rest of the video turned up, it proved that her story was about transcending her old racial resentment.

and the end of the article:

So, let's review the Breitbart gang's allegations:

When … she expresses a discriminatory attitude towards white people, the audience responds with applause. False.
The NAACP … is cheering on a person describing a white person as the other. False.
The NAACP audience seemed to have approved of her actions when she talked about not helping the white farmer. False.
They weren't cheering redemption; they were cheering discrimination. False.
As Ms. Sherrod recounted the first part of her parable, how she declined to do everything she could for the farmer because of his race, the audience responded in approval. False.

First Breitbart and his acolytes falsely accused Sherrod of discriminating against whites as a federal employee, despite having no evidence for this charge in the original video excerpt. Strike one.

Then they misrepresented Sherrod's story as an embrace of racism, when in fact she was repudiating racism. They later pleaded ignorance of this fact because they didn't have the full video. Strike two.

Now, with the full video in hand and posted on their Web site, they're lying about the reaction of the NAACP audience.

The excuses are all used up, Mr. Breitbart.

I watched most of the video and I don't think Ms. Sherrod said anything bad. If you want to nit-pick, you could say that she had some racist attitudes 24 years ago and she was an adult at tht time. She was 38 years old at the time.

But that was 24 years ago and from listening to her speech it sounds like she has totally changed. She seems like a decent woman. I don't think she deserved to be fired.

This is one of the few cases where you can legitimately say that a person's words were taken out of context.

I admit that my initial take on this woman and this story was totally wrong. I'm not too proud to admit it when I'm wrong.

Rupert: The "sting" pimp-whore kids only got one person at Acorn (after visiting office after office) to talk to them, and that person called the police on them.

The "voter fraud" perpetrated was a bunch of lazy people filling out Mickey Mouse on some voter cards. Did "Mickey Mouse" ever cast a vote? No. So was "voter fraud" done? No. Nothing more than a bunch of lazy people making up names.

Get the truth, Rup. Even Shep Smith tagged Faux News for what they are, on his show. Did you see this today?

Are all media outlets "fair and balanced"? No. Hard to find a good investigative journalist nowadays. Is Faux News? Hell no.

Rup, the White House was jumping off the cliff right with ya. That's the biggest story here, IMO.

Edit: But Rush isn't backing down! LOL Go, Rushbie!

Here's the audio/video of Rush saying that: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_657546.html

There was widespread voter fraud by Acorn all across the country.

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...-74288792.html

Fox News has plenty of reporters that are Republicans. There is no doubt about that. Some of these reporters have a bias. There is no doubt about that. But at practically every other news station, 90% of the reporters and anchors are Democrats and many of them have a bias.

I find it amusing that you bash Fox News for showing a bias at times, while you have no problem with all the other news channels that have shown a liberal-leaning bias for years.

I wonder if Dan Rather had a liberal bias. It was hard to tell. LOL.

Unlike Breibart who showed actual video albeit in sections, Mr. Rather went with completely forged documents in his quest to bash W.

Do you even read what you post, before you link it?

LOL. Not even remotely true, but I know reality or evidence has short shrift with you ;)

Are you aware that there is a vast difference between "news" and "opinion"?

Yes, I read it. What did I miss?

So you do have a problem with the liberal-leaning bias of the other stations? That's funny, you've never mentioned it. You call Fox News "Faux News". I've never heard you knock CBS or any of the other news stations.

Support for your contention.

Posting old internet about investigations that are or may be initiated doesn't prove voter fraud.

Can you post the results of those investigations?

If I were going to choose, "media biased to the left-progressive" news orgs, CBS News wouldn't be at the top of the list :D

But it's your party choice - whatcha got? Post some transcripts or video showing CBS News is as biased as Faux News.

Here is some history of the rampant corruption at Acorn.

I'll give you a tidbit here but there is 20x more at the website that I will provide you a link to.

WA 2007 Three ACORN employees pleaded guilty, and four more were charged, in the worst case of voter registration fraud in Washington state history. More than 2,000 fraudulent voter registration cards were submitted by the group during a voter registration drive.

PA 2009 Seven ACORN workers in the Pittsburgh area were indicted for submitting falsified voter registration forms. Six of the seven were also indicted for registering voters under an illegal quota system.

NV 2009 Nevada authorities indicted ACORN on 26 counts of voter registration fraud and 13 counts of illegally compensating canvassers. ACORN provided a bonus compensation program called “Blackjack” or “21+” for any canvasser who registered more than 20 voters per shift, which is illegal under Nevada law.

2006 Eight ACORN employees in St. Louis were indicted on federal election fraud charges. Each of the eight faces up to five years in prison for forging signatures and submitting false information.

IN 2008 Election officials in Indiana have thrown out more than 4,000 ACORN-submitted voter registrations after finding they had identical handwriting and included the names of many deceased Indianans, and even the name of a fast food restaurant.

http://www.rottenacorn.com/activityMap.html

"Rampant corruption"? Do you know how big this org is? How many volunteers, employees?

Three people, 2000 bad voter reg cards submitted. Did Mickey Mouse get to actually vote in any elections?

What was the result of the indictment?

What was the result of the indictment?

What was the result of this indictment?

So, we have a huge, nationwide voter registration group with tons of employees and even more volunteers, and the best the "Hate Acorn" site [pretty fair and unbiased, right? :D] you quoted as reference for "rampant corruption" and "widespread voter fraud all across the country" can come up with is the above?

A bunch of lazy people filling out Mickey Mouse on voter registration cards? (indeed fraudulent, and I certainly don't dismiss it, but not remotely related to any actual election fixing-voting)

Do you have anything else on where ACORN advised and supported people to do this, etc? That it was an organizationally-driven culture or requirement? Among the thousands and thousands of ACORN members?

Because that hasn't come out in all the ACORN intense examination during the pre-election runup in 2008-2009, from the far right media screaming about it. All they could come up with was the above.

I personally think that's kind of anemic on a national scale, but I grew up in the Chicago area, so my perception of what constitutes "rampant widespread corruption and widespread voter fraud" is probably a bit skewed.

Look, you're free to think what you wish about ACORN, but personally, the whistles hurt my ears :(

No, those were not the only cases. There were about 30 more cases at the site I listed the link to.

Don't confuse Riot with the facts,please. It's not supposed to be gamesmanship to get over on the other party! What Acorn did was illegal and unethical, and from most appearances they were de-funded for a period of time. But Riot continues to chatter with glee when the Party whom she says is her Party stumbles etc etc.

The "facts" have always seemed to be a hysterical over-reaction on the part of some regarding ACORN.

Click.

Treat.

So...please explain what, if anything, Acorn did wrong...in your not so humble opinion?

:zz: I already have. Registering fake voters is obviously wrong. So is broadly painting a huge nationwide organization (nearly half a million members, over a thousand charters) fraudulent for the acts of a few idiots. I'm waiting for you guys to bring up the issue of voter fraud in the other registered twenty-plus orgs that do voter registration on a national level.