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ateamstupid 06-25-2010 12:40 PM

Yeah, it would appear their signing room comes a year too late, though Wyc has had no problem paying luxury tax before. Perk makes 4 and change BTW.

Cannon Shell 06-25-2010 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 661671)
Yeah, it would appear their signing room comes a year too late, though Wyc has had no problem paying luxury tax before. Perk makes 4 and change BTW.

Yeah I meant perkins and the number 19 pick. 4.9+1.1

I dont think you can sign that kind of deal if you are already over the cap. You can only resign your own guys to max contracts in that situation. What could happen though is Pierce opts out, they restructure his deal and add years and possibly might open up enough to get them under the cap?

Cannon Shell 06-25-2010 12:52 PM

Rasheed was a MLE guy and you may have to replace a retiring mid level exception guy with another MLE guy. Dont know for sure but thought i remember this happening before.

RockHardTen1985 06-26-2010 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 661652)
Sheed retiring. HOF? Probably not I guess.

HOF talent, never seemed to play with the needed passion.

Cannon Shell 06-26-2010 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 662079)
HOF talent, never seemed to play with the needed passion.

Really? Maybe this past year and his brief "mail it in so they will trade me" stint with the Jailblazers but he was tough as nails with Detroit.

RockHardTen1985 06-26-2010 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 662086)
Really? Maybe this past year and his brief "mail it in so they will trade me" stint with the Jailblazers but he was tough as nails with Detroit.

From day one, I looked at Sheed as one of the most talented gifted players in the NBA, when did he ever produce numbers like that? When did he ever live on the block and not the 3 point line?

Cannon Shell 06-26-2010 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 662088)
From day one, I looked at Sheed as one of the most talented gifted players in the NBA, when did he ever produce numbers like that? When did he ever live on the block and not the 3 point line?

you are confusing his style of play with passion. Eddy Curry plays down on the blocks. Does he too play with passion?

No doubt that RW fell in love with the three point shot far too often but he was a really good defensive player and effective scorer for championship teams without a real superstar. He was also a hell of a player in portland till he decided he wanted out of that situation which was one of his better ideas. No doubt that his insaneness probably detracted from his overall game but I dont know anyone (well you i guess)who thinks that he didnt have a career that you would have thought he would have had.

dalakhani 07-06-2010 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 662106)
you are confusing his style of play with passion. Eddy Curry plays down on the blocks. Does he too play with passion?

No doubt that RW fell in love with the three point shot far too often but he was a really good defensive player and effective scorer for championship teams without a real superstar. He was also a hell of a player in portland till he decided he wanted out of that situation which was one of his better ideas. No doubt that his insaneness probably detracted from his overall game but I dont know anyone (well you i guess)who thinks that he didnt have a career that you would have thought he would have had.

Going back to that 1995 draft, the only player that had a better career than Sheed was Garnett. He is a unique talent that could fill the stat sheet in every category. During his era, how many f/c would you take over him? Duncan, garnett and ? There are maybe 2-3 other guys but not any beyond that.

He had a fine career that was 15 years long and he never played fewer than 62 games other than the lockout year.

Cannon Shell 07-06-2010 05:04 PM

It sounds like either Miami or Chicago is going to get hosed. If the Lebron/Bosh to Cleveland deal happens and they turn around and sign Mike Miller/Kyle Korver to the MLE, all of a sudden they are looking tough again and the loser in the D Wade sweepstakes is going to come away pretty empty. Miami has an especially tough scenario without Bosh as they have to fill out the entire roster and cant afford to pay above market prices to midlevel talent which they are almost forced to do.

Atlanta and Memphis both made awful moves, Atlanta especially so. Johnson for a max, $120 million deal is a bad deal if he were 23. Since he is turning 28 the last few years of this deal are gonna be ugly. And do they seriously think this team can make a run after this years disgraceful showing? Memphis giving Rudy Gay $82 million in a year where he is an unrestricted FA was borderline retarded.

The Laker's made a typically shrewd move signing Steve Blake to a 4 year deal for 16 million. He is a better option moving forward than Fisher or Farmer, one of which will probably be moving on.

Worst signings
Johnson -Atl
Gay- Mem
whoever signs Boozer-?
Stoudamire-NYK
Chris Duhon-Orlando

RockHardTen1985 07-06-2010 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 665661)
It sounds like either Miami or Chicago is going to get hosed. If the Lebron/Bosh to Cleveland deal happens and they turn around and sign Mike Miller/Kyle Korver to the MLE, all of a sudden they are looking tough again and the loser in the D Wade sweepstakes is going to come away pretty empty. Miami has an especially tough scenario without Bosh as they have to fill out the entire roster and cant afford to pay above market prices to midlevel talent which they are almost forced to do.

Atlanta and Memphis both made awful moves, Atlanta especially so. Johnson for a max, $120 million deal is a bad deal if he were 23. Since he is turning 28 the last few years of this deal are gonna be ugly. And do they seriously think this team can make a run after this years disgraceful showing? Memphis giving Rudy Gay $82 million in a year where he is an unrestricted FA was borderline retarded.

The Laker's made a typically shrewd move signing Steve Blake to a 4 year deal for 16 million. He is a better option moving forward than Fisher or Farmer, one of which will probably be moving on.

Worst signings
Johnson -Atl
Gay- Mem
whoever signs Boozer-?
Stoudamire-NYK
Chris Duhon-Orlando

Chuckles, I totally agree with everything you just said, very rare.

Cannon Shell 07-07-2010 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 665661)
It sounds like either Miami or Chicago is going to get hosed. If the Lebron/Bosh to Cleveland deal happens and they turn around and sign Mike Miller/Kyle Korver to the MLE, all of a sudden they are looking tough again and the loser in the D Wade sweepstakes is going to come away pretty empty. Miami has an especially tough scenario without Bosh as they have to fill out the entire roster and cant afford to pay above market prices to midlevel talent which they are almost forced to do.

Atlanta and Memphis both made awful moves, Atlanta especially so. Johnson for a max, $120 million deal is a bad deal if he were 23. Since he is turning 28 the last few years of this deal are gonna be ugly. And do they seriously think this team can make a run after this years disgraceful showing? Memphis giving Rudy Gay $82 million in a year where he is an unrestricted FA was borderline retarded.

The Laker's made a typically shrewd move signing Steve Blake to a 4 year deal for 16 million. He is a better option moving forward than Fisher or Farmer, one of which will probably be moving on.

Worst signings
Johnson -Atl
Gay- Mem
whoever signs Boozer-?
Stoudamire-NYK
Chris Duhon-Orlando

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/n...ory?id=5359501

Of course they are. Signing Boozer would be further proof that Donnie Walsh is a fraud

Cannon Shell 07-07-2010 11:13 AM

So let me get this straight. The "capologist" on ESPN is saying that Miami can sign LeBron as well and STILL have 11 million in cap space, a trade exception and the MLE? Why were they saying that they would have almost no room if they signed all three?

hoovesupsideyourhead 07-07-2010 11:17 AM

lebroun to the nicks

Coach Pants 07-07-2010 11:21 AM

I don't get the Chris Bosh hype.

clyde 07-07-2010 11:38 AM

Me neither...is a relative stiff.


If James doesn't get more attention he is going to fake a fall from the courtside seats at Quicken....and fall all the way to the floor.

Coach Pants 07-07-2010 11:52 AM

He's making the announcement on ESPN at 9est tomorrow.

They are having a primetime "special" for the a-hole.

clyde 07-07-2010 11:56 AM

I'm surprised there isn't a warm up Larry King interview for this....where absolutley nothing is revealed other than James' admiration for his own ,in reality, ineptitude.

Cannon Shell 07-07-2010 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 665980)
I don't get the Chris Bosh hype.

He is a black Gasol. Works a lot better as a second fiddle. May shower more than Gasol.

Coach Pants 07-07-2010 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 666006)
He is a black Gasol. Works a lot better as a second fiddle. May shower more than Gasol.

That's an insult to Gasol.

Cannon Shell 07-07-2010 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 666016)
That's an insult to Gasol.

No it really isn't. Well maybe the showering part.

RockHardTen1985 07-07-2010 12:50 PM

Lebron may have dropped the ball on this one... In this league you cant win an NBA title alone, and Lebron came in with the sort of hype that he needs to win multiple titles to valadate it. Wade has a title already and Bosh is solid enough, if Lebron does not go to Miami, Miami still has like 12 million to fill this team out and they are now an instand contender. I dont think Lebron has any chance to win in Clevland and Im not sold on Chicago, so maybe NY with Amare? **** I dont like Amare, I dont think hes much. Lebron IMO might have to go to Miami, if he wants to win an NBA title.

RockHardTen1985 07-07-2010 12:52 PM

Shelly Smith just reported the South Beach Super team might be happening. Lebron is leaning towards Miami. I think someone posted this on Facebook about a week ago.

hoovesupsideyourhead 07-07-2010 02:28 PM

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a11_1278491236

lebrons welcome in miami

or rht vs drugs:tro:

Cannon Shell 07-07-2010 04:09 PM

Chicago, the loser in the Boozer sweepstakes.

For 16 million a year you get:
an undersized post player
a defensive liability
an oft injured guy
a grumbler in the locker room
not a particularly good FT shooter

His 18 and 10 wont look so bad the next two years if he stays healthy. But this probably wont end pretty because with him it never does.

Coach Pants 07-07-2010 04:10 PM

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/38128709/ns/sports-nba/

Cannon Shell 07-07-2010 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 666176)

It is like he is trying to make people hate him.

Coach Pants 07-07-2010 04:28 PM

And Jim Gray is interviewing him. :zz:

Cannon Shell 07-07-2010 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 666187)
And Jim Gray is interviewing him. :zz:

The Pete Rose Jim Grey?

Cannon Shell 07-07-2010 04:43 PM

I know you have to consider the source but on Around the Horn the dopes were predicting that the heat would now go to the Finals.

At the current time the heat have 4 players committed for next year and may not even have that depending on if Bosh's deal includes a sign and trade.

Perhaps it would be prudent to know who a team will actually have on its roster before picking them to go to the Finals.

And how quickly has Beasley become the plague?

ateamstupid 07-07-2010 04:59 PM

Something tells me they won't find time during that hour to show highlights of him missing the Finals in back-to-back "MVP" seasons.

Cannon Shell 07-07-2010 05:42 PM

Ton of money on the exchanges on NYK's. Could dopey Donnie Walsh actually get it done?

Scav 07-07-2010 06:26 PM

LeBron has reportedly changed his tax address to Chicago, IL. Jim Rose on ABC 7 just reported. :)

MaTH716 07-07-2010 07:09 PM

You would think that him leaving Ohio to hold the huge press conference doesn't bode well for the hometown Cavs.
Maybe Donie Walsh did get this done.

clyde 07-07-2010 07:16 PM

It bodes very well.




It's of small importance on the large scale, but they are better off without him.

Scav 07-07-2010 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 666248)
LeBron has reportedly changed his tax address to Chicago, IL. Jim Rose on ABC 7 just reported. :)

On this front, MSG shares supposedly went up 15% today.....

If the Bulls can get Korver I think they will contend but still need someone clutch, and they don't have that at all. Maybe they can get Ben Gordon back in some crazy way, he at least could shoot.

RockHardTen1985 07-07-2010 11:39 PM

If he goes to the knicks, I love everyone..... Even Clyde.

clyde 07-08-2010 10:09 AM

I just hope LeMoi goes.



Simple.

Cannon Shell 07-08-2010 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by clyde (Post 666267)
It bodes very well.




It's of small importance on the large scale, but they are better off without him.

yes they will fit back into the Cleveland mode of sports team

virtually non-existant

Coach Pants 07-08-2010 10:43 AM


clyde 07-08-2010 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 666393)
yes they will fit back into the Cleveland mode of sports team

virtually non-existant

You and the rest of the blind here have been constantly assaulting my fine dupa about this fool.Every year...you and the assault team have said it's not his fault they haven't won a title.He needs better around him...and every year they get better around him.


Better and better with different players...yet no title.




The constant is LeMoi.

Like in his stellar performance...5th game ,Celtics.



You all beat the same drum, but the majority feels safe in numbers.


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