^^^^ Also thought rock beat paper.

Well the Hammer has been talking him up so he could be 2/1 and has no chance at winning

The curse was seen with Caracortado in the Preakness. Was running good then remembered the Hammer loved him and he didnt hit the board

Curse Lives!!!:D

I am a huge Ice Box fan but believe without a doubt that Fly Down is a better prospect for the Belmont.

NT

It's a saying, "if you weren't there for the wedding, don't be there for the funeral" i.e. if you didn't get a piece of the horse at 25-1 when he lit up the board, don't bet him at 3-1 next time out when you're getting far less value.

If there's one thing we know about parimutuel wagering, it's that Hank Goldberg holds all the power. :rolleyes:

Dublin is not running in the Belmont. Will be pointed for the Haskel.

I third the notion:$:

Any idea on which Zito runner Lezcano will choose to ride? I imagine that the fact Lapenta is a prominent client of Zito might come into play when it is time to make a commitment. I read that Pell is a newcomer to the sport as an owner, but other than that I don't know much about him.

ice box. its about 3/4s down in the article

http://www.drf.com/news/article/113023.html

Where did you hear that? Are you sure? That is so unlike D Wayne. He's never skipped a race in his life unless his horse is on life-support and usually that wouldn't even stop him.

Current Belmont prospects:

1. Drosselmeyer (Mott)
2. First Dude (Romans)
3. Fly Down (Zito)
4. Game on Dude (Baffert)
5. Ice Box (Zito)
6. Make Music for Me (Barba)
7. New Madrid (Ice)
8. Setsuko (Mandella)
9. Spangled Star (R. Dutrow)
10. Stately Victor (Maker)
11. Stay Put (Margolis)
12. Uptowncharlybrown (McLaughlin)

just as i thought no horses in all 3, not even the winners of the first two. have they thought about having the triple crown for 4 year olds ever instead of the current way?

Based on a report of Mandella being unhappy with a Setsuko race I would call him unlikely right now.

According to site Bank the Eight is also probable for the race


Weird about Dublin tho as Lukas said he was a go like 3 hrs after the Preakness and then said it again on Sunday but whatever

This actually is a pretty ingriguing field and has the makings for a good betting race.

I see New Madrid is entered in a Turf race at Belmont on Thursday. Seems like an odd prep for the Belmont Stakes, especially if he likes the turf,
which seems likely given his pedigree.

Got it. Thanks!

Ingriguing ?


Is it me?

I think its a great field to bet on

2 of the 3 favorites will be Ice Box and Stately Victor,both have issues

Unless a rabbit is sent out there doesnt look like alot of speed for Ice Box(Should hit the board due to fact he can get distance and some can't) and Stately Victor I am still not convinced can run on fast dirt.

There should be 13 or 14 horses,would love to see the filly go to take some money but don't look like it

New Madrid is a go-Ice just said he needs a race and the turf one is the next out there

Velazquez to ride Fly Down in Belmont
By David Grening

ELMONT, N.Y. - No more calls, please, we have a winner.

John Velazquez has been tabbed by trainer Nick Zito to ride Fly Down in the $1 million Belmont Stakes on June 5, the Hall of Fame trainer told Daily Racing Form on Tuesday morning. Coming off a decisive six-length victory in the Grade 2 Dwyer Stakes at Belmont on May 8, Fly Down figures to be among the top three betting choices in the Belmont along with stablemate Ice Box, the Kentucky Derby runner-up; and First Dude, the Preakness runner-up.

"Belmont Park, John Velazquez, Nick Zito, we've had good luck together," Zito, who trains Fly Down for owner Richard Pell, said from Saratoga. "Plus, I've known Johnny since he was 18. I had a lot of good jockeys wanting to ride this horse, but I went with the New York jockey."

Velazquez rode Fly Down to a third-place finish in his debut last October at Belmont.

Quite a pickup for Johnny. Lezcano picked the wrong horse IMO.

Can't see Stately Victor being a top 3 choice. Fly Down and First Dude will be lower than him.

In other words, Cordero wasn't available.

I agree. I would think Stately Victor will be the 4th or even 5th choice. Fly Down, Ice Box, and First Dude will all be lower odds than SV. Make Music For Me ran 4th in the Derby. He might even be lower odds than SV.

Ya u guys are right I keep thinking Game on Dude not First Dude

Stately Victor will be 4th choice but not sure he likes the fast dirt no matter what the odds are

Ice Box got the wrong jock.

Setsuko
 

Out with ankle probs damn:mad:

Next year?
 

This could have explained his relatively poor performance in the American Turf. I know Mandella is conservative and he probably knows better than anyone how to care for a horse but this comment caught my eye.

It's nothing serious," Mandella emphasized. "We are going to give him a couple months off and start thinking about next year."

New Madrid entered for the 6th race today.

Ridiculous as this sounds, I still hope to see him (Setsuko) get healthy and run on conventional dirt. I just can't believe he won't move up. He's a May foal and the time off should help him mature also.

I don't know, I thought his relatively poor performance on the turf at CD could have been because he's probably not a turf horse.

game on dude

You can have him.

Dublin to bypass Belmont
By Marty McGee

LOUISVILLE, Ky. Dublin has been withdrawn from consideration for the 142nd Belmont Stakes on June 5, meaning no horse will have run in all three Triple Crown events this year. Trainer D. Wayne Lukas said early Thursday at Churchill Downs that Dublin will wait for the fall classics and that withdrawing the colt wasn t an easy decision, because he s really doing good.

Lukas noted that Dublin has had five races in 12 weeks and he wanted to give the colt a little break before gearing back up for major races such as the Haskell, Jim Dandy, or Travers before ultimately pointing for the Nov. 6 Breeders Cup Classic at Churchill.

Think she is wanting NotDirt to plug her.



Can see where you would get confused.

Even Uptown CharlyBrown will take money because...well, he always takes money. First time McLaughlin will drop his price even lower. Either way, Zitos horses will be the two deserving favorites.

It's probably too early to say either way, look at Al Khali last year, there were some opinions that he wouldn't amount to much on turf either.

Well looks like we are down to 12

Starting to wonder how low Ice Box and Fly Down will be bet down to? Still looks like we could have another Preakness tho with couple single digit odds and rest at 25/1

So he proved everyone wrong with his scintillating Saranac win?

Setsuko is a plug but I am dismayed that he's not running in the Belmont because he would have sucked up a ton of money. I'll have to just rely on Game on Dude for that now.

NT

Smith to Ride Drosselmeyer in Belmont
 

Seems to be the thing to do these days.

Smith to Ride Drosselmeyer in Belmont