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Buffymommy 05-15-2010 10:23 AM

I am kinda leaning towards Jackson myself. I haven't made a final decision yet though. I will in a few hours though. It will depend on how much Derby took out of him. He may not win, but I do think he will be in the $$$.

Travis Stone 05-15-2010 10:25 AM

Unless something weird happens, the pace in this race is non-existent.

CSC 05-15-2010 10:25 AM

I don't like Jackson at all today, however he is the single most important horse in the field. What he does or doesn't do today will impact the race significantly for Aikenite, LAL and the future Belmont winner Pleasant Prince.

Buffymommy 05-15-2010 04:33 PM

OK, I am going to Paddy.

Paddy/Jackson/Super Saver tri box.

Dark horse pick that I would put with my super? Caracortado

Clip-Clop 05-15-2010 04:51 PM

Boxing up 7,8,9,10 with a few bets including the 1. 5 live double from that fantastic ride by Ramon makes this even more fun!!! Go Aikenite!:D

Left Bank 05-15-2010 05:12 PM

Pletcher exacta.

Sightseek 05-15-2010 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Left Bank (Post 648110)
Pletcher exacta.

Would love that!

westcoastinvader 05-15-2010 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 648118)
Would love that!

Martin Garcia, from the deli right up the street!

2Hot4TV 05-15-2010 05:23 PM

The horse just GRINDS it out. Nobody was going to get by him.

westcoastinvader 05-15-2010 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV (Post 648126)
The horse just GRINDS it out. Nobody was going to get by him.


It was after last year's Preakness that the eastern people anointed Rachel Alexandra as the nation's top horse.

freddymo 05-15-2010 05:27 PM

Congrats to Vic Stauffer and Martin Garcia!!!!!!!! Whoops

randallscott35 05-15-2010 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 648133)
Congrats to Vic Stauffer and Martin Garcia!!!!!!!! Whoops

Oh no:eek:

Sightseek 05-15-2010 05:28 PM

Man, Zito gets close again!

2Hot4TV 05-15-2010 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 648133)
Congrats to Vic Stauffer and Martin Garcia!!!!!!!! Whoops

If Martin kept Vic he wouldn't of had LAL. Baffert made the choice for Martin.

Looks like Vic still has a job, just didn't win this one.

Merlinsky 05-15-2010 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by westcoastinvader (Post 648132)
It was after last year's Preakness that the eastern people anointed Rachel Alexandra as the nation's top horse.

Kinda helps when you just won your last race by 20 lengths.

CSC 05-15-2010 05:39 PM

Did anyone notice how empty the Pletcher horses looked today, Understatement, Super Silver and Aikenite...:rolleyes:

hockey2315 05-15-2010 05:39 PM

It's hard not to think First Dude ran the best race. . . Even if I didn't bet him hard. Gross.

2Hot4TV 05-15-2010 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 648147)
Did anyone notice how empty the Pletcher horses looked today, Understatement, Super Silver and Aikenite...:rolleyes:

Too bad the pressure of a triple crown makes they run when they really need time between races.

AeWingnut 05-15-2010 05:45 PM

I have a ton of 8-11 bets no 7-11
wish Gomez would have stayed on LAL

kgar311 05-15-2010 05:46 PM

I want to know how I can hit a 2700 tri and be pissed, maybe because I played 7/25681011 tri and not the super, oh well I guess I'm not that pissed

Merlinsky 05-15-2010 05:46 PM

The Preakness is trending worldwide on Twitter. Always fun to see horse racing make that jump. I'd love to know how many people are talking about it, all it does is have rankings. It's nearly #1 in Ireland.

westcoastinvader 05-15-2010 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 648148)
It's hard not to think First Dude ran the best race. . . Even if I didn't bet him hard. Gross.


We had First Dude and Jackson Bend touters in here.

I was chalk all the way today, but did toss some long shots on the board on my tix.

I was so close to discounting Super Saver and making the 7-11 visit.

I'm not cashing a ticket, but sure seems I should have.

Super happy for Martin Garcia though. I bought my tix today at the OTB at the first track in America that he worked a thoroughbred.

slotdirt 05-15-2010 05:51 PM

None other than Andy S. himself touted First Dude. Jackson Bend didn't have the easiest of trips, but First Dude ran a hell of a race to finish second. Yawanna Twist acquitted himself nicely as well.

And Dublin. Where do you start? I've never seen an outrider actually move himself for his own safety because a horse broke that poorly. He gained a ton of ground, but probably lost all chance at the start.

trackrat59 05-15-2010 05:56 PM

I had all but Lucky. Had Paddy or Super won I would have hit the tri and super. Oh well, you can't use everyone. I'm happy for Martin Garcia. Good for him. Let's see.....? what did I accomplished at 25 years old.:zz:

AeWingnut 05-15-2010 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kgar311 (Post 648156)
I want to know how I can hit a 2700 tri and be pissed, maybe because I played 7/25681011 tri and not the super, oh well I guess I'm not that pissed

congrats:$:

Kingturf 05-15-2010 08:45 PM

I was so suprised at the payout today. Needless to say, first dude finally fired for me. I am going to get my new gas grill tomorrow morning :):)

Left Bank 05-15-2010 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by chucklestheclown (Post 647294)
Ask Barbaro.

Now,Now,Don't upset Alex Brown.:eek:

Indian Charlie 05-15-2010 10:26 PM

What did we learn from the Preakness today?

Nothing.

It was already obvious that trips matter (look at the winner). I guess those who kept saying Lookin at 'Sucky' was a terrible horse and also said that his bad trips were perfect trips have nothing to say.

The other already obvious thing was that Super Saver is a one track wonder.

Dunbar 05-16-2010 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 648283)
What did we learn from the Preakness today?

Nothing.

It was already obvious that trips matter (look at the winner). I guess those who kept saying Lookin at 'Sucky' was a terrible horse and also said that his bad trips were perfect trips have nothing to say.

The other already obvious thing was that Super Saver is a one track wonder.

Hmmm, maybe you should replace "we learn" with "I learn"? Agree with you on Lucky. The people saying he made his own trouble, as if it would therefore continue, have been proven wrong. On the other hand, he did not exactly demolish this field. On the other other hand, he is very tough in the stretch.

Super Saver may or may not be a "one track wonder". Maybe he is a wet track wonder. Or maybe two weeks wasn't enough for him, my usual stance on turnaround time notwithstanding.

Most likely conclusion: this is a mediocre class of 3-yr-olds, and any one of several might turn up his game in any given race enough to win it.

--Dunbar

lemoncrush 05-16-2010 08:48 AM

My missteps was not doing any tickets without SS. I used Jackson Bend and First Dude liberally, but I just had such a hard time believing SS could finish outside of the money, based on past Preakness's for the most part, and the lack of a real strong group of new faces.

During the past week, First Dude and Fly Down have flattered the 3-yo's that wintered at Gulfstream Park this year. Although, i still don't know how Pleasant Prince nearly won the FL Derby. ;)

Danzig 05-16-2010 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunbar (Post 648352)
Hmmm, maybe you should replace "we learn" with "I learn"? Agree with you on Lucky. The people saying he made his own trouble, as if it would therefore continue, have been proven wrong. On the other hand, he did not exactly demolish this field. On the other other hand, he is very tough in the stretch.

Super Saver may or may not be a "one track wonder". Maybe he is a wet track wonder. Or maybe two weeks wasn't enough for him, my usual stance on turnaround time notwithstanding.

Most likely conclusion: this is a mediocre class of 3-yr-olds, and any one of several might turn up his game in any given race enough to win it.
--Dunbar

i agree.

dalakhani 05-16-2010 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunbar (Post 648352)
Hmmm, maybe you should replace "we learn" with "I learn"? Agree with you on Lucky. The people saying he made his own trouble, as if it would therefore continue, have been proven wrong. On the other hand, he did not exactly demolish this field. On the other other hand, he is very tough in the stretch.

Super Saver may or may not be a "one track wonder". Maybe he is a wet track wonder. Or maybe two weeks wasn't enough for him, my usual stance on turnaround time notwithstanding.

Most likely conclusion: this is a mediocre class of 3-yr-olds, and any one of several might turn up his game in any given race enough to win it.

--Dunbar

What impressed me the most about Lucky was how long he sustained his run and it was AGAINST the biased rail.

Jackson Bend is some kind of racehorse.

Danzig 05-16-2010 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by lemoncrush (Post 648384)
My missteps was not doing any tickets without SS. I used Jackson Bend and First Dude liberally, but I just had such a hard time believing SS could finish outside of the money, based on past Preakness's for the most part, and the lack of a real strong group of new faces.

During the past week, First Dude and Fly Down have flattered the 3-yo's that wintered at Gulfstream Park this year. Although, i still don't know how Pleasant Prince nearly won the FL Derby. ;)

and a horse named grasshopper almost won the travers. he got bet i don't know how many times based on that one performance. inexplicable runs happen some times.

Sightseek 05-16-2010 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 648399)
What impressed me the most about Lucky was how long he sustained his run and it was AGAINST the biased rail.

Jackson Bend is some kind of racehorse.

Agree on both accounts.

tjfla 05-16-2010 10:01 AM

Jax Bend is a nice horse too bad he can't go 1 1/2 cause would love to see him in the Belmont

the_fat_man 05-16-2010 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 648148)
It's hard not to think First Dude ran the best race. . . Even if I didn't bet him hard. Gross.

Not hard at all.:rolleyes:

the_fat_man 05-16-2010 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 648399)

Jackson Bend is some kind of racehorse.

Agree. Not too many horses can get the absolutely PERFECT trip that he did and still hang like a rat.

CSC 05-16-2010 11:37 AM

I've never been this disinterested in a crop of 3 year olds, maybe a few of these will go on to establish themselves as the year progresses; however the lack of excitement this year on the triple crown trail has been very evident on me.

dalakhani 05-16-2010 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man (Post 648423)
Agree. Not too many horses can get the absolutely PERFECT trip that he did and still hang like a rat.

Rat? He is distance challenged. 9.5f is way beyond his scope but he is still right there.

That little horse is about as honest as it gets.

CSC 05-16-2010 11:46 AM

I bet if they ran this race again next weekend, we would have another random winner. No one truly stood out yesterday, these are a very mediocre bunch.


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