No, just better pass protection.

I think we were talking about Crosby being better than Ovie or vice versa, I don't know if you are a Caps fan but if you watched the Olympics and the Stanley Cup Playoffs or when the games really matter in the scheme of the winning theme, you definitely would be hard pressed to say Ovie was better than Crosby, and even when the games mean't less in the regular season Crosby outscored Ovie again, as he did in the olympics, and NHL Playoffs. You want him , you can have him. I'll take Crosby.

:tro:

Crosby is the biggest baby in the league. He should be suspended for that stick action against the Montreal net today. When he grows up, maybe then I can give him a little respect, but right now, he is just a little crybaby punk who can light the lamp. I hope he never gets a sniff of another title.

I don't know where you get your info, but the kid is well respected in the league and by team owner Mario Lemieux and his teammates, I don't know if you know but Crosby lived with Mario his 1st couple of years in the NHL and Mario has nothing but great things to say about Sid. Now you want to know who isn't respected in the league it's Ovie, I happen to think Ovie is the most exciting player in the league but until he learns to play with a team concept the Stanley Cup will always allude him.

How large are those blinkers you have on?

Distance , tighter turns and less horses. I would not run Ice Box and let him rest up for the Belmont.

The turns at Pimlico are not " tighter " than the ones at Churchill.

Trust me, I know my Hockey and until Ovie learns to shorten his shifts to about a minute, use his teammates abit more, The Caps will not win a Stanley Cup, just as Ilya Kovachuk won't either.

You are correct
http://www.east-coast-bias.com/2008/...ght-turns.html

But someome should tell Dutrow
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/r...rt-821634.html

I see this thread is going awry already, but Ovechkin has nothing to do with the Caps not winning a Stanley Cup at this point. I'd say the fact that Semin is completely gutless and Mike Green is the worst stay-at-home defenseman in the league are bigger issues.

This year's Caps team reminds me of the '94 Red Wings, and we all know where that went after that year's humiliating first round loss to the Sharks.

If you know hockey, then you must know that Crosby is known league wide as a crybaby, hence the popular nickname "Crybaby" Crosby. If you don't know that, then you are wearing the worlds biggest blinders covered by rose colored glasses.

Sid "the Crybaby Kid" Crosbydeserves a suspension for his tantrum yesterday. Its a shame it won't happen.

Sidney Crosby Voted Biggest Whiner by NHL Players.

Actually, I think most opposing fans call him "Cindy" Crosby for his antics.

Got any Ovie links? I'm too lazy to find the best cheap shot artist in the NHL as voted by the NHL players.

People are always jealous of winners...

Yes, that is a big favorite in Philly and Washington.

That explains it.

Look, I dislike Ovie as well, however with Ovie, what you see is what you get. I don't ever see him act "higher than thou." Cheapshot artist, maybe, but at least he isn't a smug little priss who cries and dives all over the ice. I just feel Crosby, with his talent, should be above that.

At least you are pretty much admitting you are a homer. I'll give you a bit of credit for that.

It's not like Crosby or Malkin don't get their cheap shots in from time to time. See game five of last year's Stanley Cup finals for details.

I argee.
I loved Ice Box going into Saturday (because it was pretty easy to deduce that the pace would be suicidal) but I would love to be able to bet against Ice Box in his next start. I'm really hoping that whichever race he ends up in next comes up paceless. He closed so well into those blistering fractions on Saturday that he will almost surely be overbet next time out. If there is speed in his next start it would still be foolish to play against him, but if their isn't, he could be a wonderful bet-against.

Of course - on the other hand - I like Zito and the horse, so I wouldn't mind seeing them win a TC race.

#1 Hockey Sucks Go have another lockout:D


#2 Not a big name but Bushwhacked might be out with a 103 Fever and 2 new names being discussed are Exhi and Rule

DRF reported today that Drosselmeyer was likely for the Dwyer. Makes sense as no way Winstar wants one of their other horses to beat Super Saver in the Preakness.

Winstar is not running Rule against Super Saver.

Would be great to see A lil warm....:$:

"A Little Warm, who was a possible Preakness runner, has been fighting a temperature since shipping last week from Florida to Delaware Park and is not currently under consideration for the race, trainer Tony Dutrow said Monday."

http://www.drf.com/news/article/112667.html

NT

:tro:

I laughed.

If running Rule can result in another pace like in the derby...

Wabbit.

I'm looking at the NTRA stakes schedule. Can it possibly be right that the Preakness is the only graded stake run at Pimlico on Preakness day??

I hope not. In trying to find an answer at their website I came across this oddity:

"Among the Black-Eyed Susan Stakes winners are classic fillies as Nellie Morse, who was the only filly ever to also take the Preakness;"

One grade 2 and 4 grade 3's in addition to the Preakness

http://www.preakness.com/preaknessWeekStakes

Preakness day always turns out to be the chalkfest Derby day isn't for some reason.

First Dude is in and Mission Impaziable might be

Drosselmeyer and Turf Melody are drawn into the Dwyer

Preakness Contenders (PP's)
 

Preakness Contender PP's

Possible Preakness starters
By David Grening

1. Aikenite (Todd Pletcher)
2. A Little Warm (Tony Dutrow)
3. Caracortado (Mike Machowsky/Paul Atkinson)
4. Dublin (D. Wayne Lukas)
5. Hurricane Ike (John Sadler)
6. Jackson Bend (Nick Zito)
7. Paddy O Prado (Dale Romans/Kent Desormeaux)
8. Pleasant Prince (Wesley Ward)
9. Schoolyard Dreams (Derek Ryan)
10. Super Saver (Todd Pletcher/Calvin Borel)
11. First Dude (Dale Romans)

12. Mission Impazible (Todd Pletcher) Possible
13. Lookin At Lucky (Bob Baffert/Garrett Gomez) Possible
14. Northern Giant (D. Wayne Lukas) Possible
15. Yawanna Twist (Rick Dutrow) Possible

Noble's Promise OUT... going to England.

http://drf.com/news/article/112762.html

It would make more sense for Dublin to go to Ireland...

Yawanna Twist, the lightly raced son of Yonaguska finished second in a pair of Grade 3 races this spring, the Gotham (March 6) and Illinois Derby (April 3) could join the Preakness field it was learned Friday. Yawanna Twist worked six furlongs in 1:17.20 on May 4 at Churchill Downs.

“Rick said we are going to see how he works and if all goes well we’ll get on that plane with the rest of them and head on over,” said Jim Riccio of Steel Your Face Stables. “We started late with him so it was tough to get a line on how good he actually is. He has to be 100 percent for us to step up against these other horses.”

Conveyance is out,LAL is still 51%

I think First Dude is confirmed Steve

Slowly but surely, the race is being conceded to Super Saver.

Make Music For Me, according to the DRF Hollywood track report will run next in the Belmont (Alphie's Bet will point to a turf race vs. his elders).

All we need now is for the "51%" Lookin At Lucky to drop out and then hopes will rest squarely on Dublin's well-rumoured limbs.

The silver lining, will be a pre-race rainstorm (which I heard was possibly in the cards), which although also favorable to the favorite, will at least give Paddy O'Prado a stronger chance to duplicate his Derby effort.

I think the next defection will be A Little Warm, who had a fever after shipping up to Delaware and was supposed to work this weekend. He has not worked, so hopefully Tony Dutrow will re-think this and run him in the Woody Stephens on Belmont day.

NT