:tro::tro::tro::tro:

We deserve to be screwed..our love of oil causes all this..

Let them walk for subsidized health care? :)

typical hand-wringing lib!:p

My hands aren't wringing..they are just "I told you so"

Yeah, you could tell from the early reports that this had the potential to become an environmental disaster of monumental proportions.




Some guy on the MarketWatch board wants to rename it the "Gulf of Cheney"...........................

Whoa, I thought El Presidente was on board about off shore drilling?

So did I, Mathman

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...gulf-oil-spill

Tony Hayward, the beleaguered chief executive of BP, has claimed its oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico is "relatively tiny" compared with the "very big ocean".

he could have a big future doing pr for the catholic church if he ever leaves bp. he has the knack.

So wouldn't that make the Gulf of Cheney comment from the marketwatch guy a bit unfair?

Obama is now in favor of off shore drilling and there was an unfortunate accident. But somehow this is still the prior administrations fault.

Dont you know that everything is Bush's fault?

I never realized that one man could be so powerful that he single handidly ruined the world.

I think there is a distinction between the philosophy of many in the Right who want to drill everywhere and anywhere they can versus the very select and controlled space that Obama proposed. My personal feeling is that even Obama's proposal is too much, but to compare "Drill Baby, Drill" to what he proposed is a night and day difference.

Fortunately, there are term limits;)

I'm not arguing about the difference of philosophies. The point I was trying to make is that our current President does support off shore drilling. Maybe not to the extend of the prior administration, but he is still in favor of it. And to blame the Bush camp at this point is unjust. If you want to cast blame at anyone, how about at the people that caused it.

Companies will be drilling in the Gulf no matter what America proposes. Then Cuba & Mexico will just take the Gulf's oil. It doesnt really matter.. we might as well not sit on the sidelines and watch others take the oil with the same chance of a spill.

You're right, but the morons chanting "drill baby drill" are simply too stupid and/or ignorant to know any better. The current administration should know better than continuing to support the expansion of this off-shore crap, but until this catastrophe they sure didn't behave as if they did.
Obviously no administration is at fault for what happened, but even though the catastrophe and the administration's policy announcement awhile back are unrelated, the spill should make some members of this administration feel like a bunch of dolts because, on this issue, that's how they were behaving.

:D

i see where the pope has moved on from child sexual abuse to condemning same sex marriage. he's on the ball. :rolleyes:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...ArKPqnF1Rrbheg

A hurricane late summer is what concerns me. Granted I'm not a scientist but one would think that the water temperature would be a few degrees higher in places.

If N.O. is hit with a hurricane it's going to be a disaster. They are half-assing the levees.

Fortunately, there are ONE-TERMERS too!;)

Tar balls found on Key West beaches today.

Underwater oil plume estimated to be 10 miles long, 3 miles wide. Oil over one of five major deep coral reefs. Dead porpoises wash up on shore.

BP proud that they've inserted a 4-inch draft into a 20-inch pipe, collecting about a fifth of what is continuing to spill daily.

BP, the oil industry and their political lackies: "government is an obstacle. the drilling is safe and modern technology can avert disaster, drill baby drill!" the reality: "we can't fix this problem.............government do something........please help us fix something we don't have a clue about, we are even calling in the shrimpers and clam people to help." can you say the word......SUCKERS........because thats what we have become. "oh mother nature can take care of this" really? in how many years. i suppose all these jackasses that are claiming this are taking their families to the beach this summer....lol...lol

I say blame Clinton. The Rig was designed, permitted and built on his watch.

I guess not Captiva/Sanibel, or the Keys.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37205691/ns/gulf_oil_spill/

You really can't make this crap up. BP should be on the hook for every penny, but Republicans are keeping in tact the $75 million liability cap. $75 million is a drop in the bucket for these morons.

It will be a crime of monumental proportions if BP pays only 75mil!:mad:

They have to pay for all of the environmental clean up. The 75 mil cap is for paying businesses who lost their business because of the spill.

but either way, yeah, its a crime if tax payers have to even pay a dime for these people's errors.

Obama has asked Congress for $10 MM to pursue criminal and civil charges against BP - guess where the $10 MM comes from.

I saw that BP is offering grants to businesses that have been affected by the spill....small consolation.
I'm not an advocate of "green" but DAMN, this is a monster problem as far as clean up and probable effects to natural settings etc etc.

the money tree?

bad math riot. you can fit five 4" pipes down just one axis of a 20" pipe. that's assuming 20" is the interior dimension of the larger pipe and 4" the exterior dimension of the smaller. which isn't the case. but pretending it is, you still have a lot of 20" pipe left after you do that.

4" pipe area is the radius (2') x 3.14 squared= 39.4 square inches

20" pipe area is the radius (10") x 3.14 squared = 986 square inches

that's about 4%, not 20%.

i get this. it's not a completely unreasonable reaction.

i just wish people looked at their own responsibility rather than just blame either bp or the government. we live on cheap oil.

let he who is without a car cast the first stone.

That's not my math - that's THEIR math ;) Of course, they also say that only 5,000 gallons a day are spilling, and they are pulling 1,000 gal a day from the draft pipe.

As an aside: today I could have turned left into the BP Station, or right into the Speedway. I conciously chose Speedway.