I tip my hat to you bro, well said. And I owe you an apology, I think, for my words on the other thread. ;)

Take the booze out of my system and as you know I'm still this messed up thinking alky. One day at a time.

Last thing this alcoholic and addict needs is sympathy, please spare me.

Steelers trade a 7th round pick to Tampa for Byron Leftwich.

they overpaid.

That's fantastic news. I thought the Bucs would wind up paying him to leave.

Wonder if the Steelers had an opportunity to watch how pathetically inept this guy was last year...

An inaccurate, immobile plug standing behind a weaking O-line, no receivers and a below average running game... Last year's tape ought to serve notice as to what to expect in Pittsburgh this year.

they just need him for four games.

when he played he played well for the Steelers 2 season ago. we'll see. it wouldn't upset me if they unload ben at this point. just send him to a bad team.

I bet they start Dixon and have Leftwich back em up. Dixon > LEftwich easily.

As a Steelers fan it is very disappointing to see that Roethlisberger feels he can act the way he did. Hell if he wants to party why didnt he do it in the comforts of his house. He should realize he is a target and will be scrutinized due to the fact that he is in the NFL and makes a nice salary. Maybe the suspension will not only serve as a wake up call for Roethlisberger but every other NFL player. Congrats to Goodall for disciplining Roethlisberger. Goodall means business.

I..um...um.....

well...I...


agree with you:eek:

Ben to AZ?? Replace a HOF QB? Reunite with Wiz?

Lets mark this date down in history. The both of us agree on something. Like how your being a smarty pants in your post which your arent close to being one.

:)

There's something way wrong with this boy - mentally, physically or both. He not only needs a morals bodyguard. He need a good physical and neurological workup. It's almost like he's got a death wish or somethin'. Damn shame for such a talent, but he needs much, much more than a 4 - 6 game suspension. And, y'all know how much I LOVE the Steelers. But, this guy's actions just don't cut it - even with all that talent.

SO......COMEDY:D

Um...I'm pretty sure the GBBob is a "smarty pants"

Im pretty sure GBBob is also a moron.

Nice to know to know there is another Steelers fan here besides me.

:)

Did Steve put spell check in so you could spell moron right?

Im sure I have more education than you do idiot. Actually I saw a picture of you and moron was written above your head. At least I dont use your quotes like you use mine.

Nope...he types too fast...maybe a savant:D

Look man...can we just chill. You really don't want to get into a pissing contest with me about education or life experience. I know you were a Navy guy and saw a ton of crap and I respect you for that. But just because I am a Democrat and like Obama doesn't mean I'm a moron...you just lose a lot of credibility with your odumbass stuff, but you hate him and cover it up by saying you love your country. Like I don't? Dems and Repubs can both "love their country", but I think even that saying is a bit much these days.

there are several of us.

Ben....the white Mike Tyson

He's got a way to go before he can claim to be like Mike

Yes there is!

If they get rid of him......they BETTER get a top 10 pick! :mad:

steelers are shopping him, but other teams were waiting to see how long he'd be benched. he can get the time off down to four games, but he needs to show a lot of effort to do that.

:zz:

At the risk of touching off a political nuclear explosion it should be said nonetheless that there is something wrong about this concept of a second layer of double jeopardy justice fueled and dictated by an employer who sanctions when the police have walked away from prosecution of Ben's behavior never mind enforcement.

Obviously I do not know what Ben has done, with whom and how much of it qualifies as decadent and/or immoral. If I had better access to exactly what went on perhaps I would feel differently but I have a problem when a punishment is levied when our judicial system did not feel that the standard for punishment had been clearly violated enough for even a TRIAL, never mind a finding reached that deems punishment appropriate for discussion.



I actually wish Ben would walk away and retire immediately and let the Steelers and the Commish scramble to explain how this turned into a lifetime vacation from the game and theft from Steeler fans of a pretty decent QB.

You don't want to go there.

6 Games... not even weeks... They've got a bye week 4 :eek:

Though Godell may reduce it to 4 games if he behaves himself...

http://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-fa...ss_news_128746

c*ck measuring contest is next.....

That Bucs - Steelers game Sept 26th (that I just scored tix for :( ) ought to be a real barnburner.... over / under will be about 7..... in 92 degree heat.... meh.

I just checked. I'm ready.

Im not trying to get into a pissing contest with you. I have no beef with you being a Democrat either. I have voted Democrat on numerous occasions. Just because I hate O'Bama doesn't mean I don't like this country. I do thank you for respecting the fact that I was in the Navy.

:)

As George Takei would say "Oh My". BTW im at a L6 right now for streak. It is a humbling time for me in Streak.

Redskins fan, Doc?

Doc,
Living in Pittsburgh and being a season ticket holder I have followed this story pretty closely, I disagree. Even though there was not enough evidence to convict him of a crime(this time) it does not mean his behavior would or should be tolerated by any employer. There are at least 3-4 other indiscretions that have been substantiated around town that seem to be within his realm of behavioral possibilities. When your alleged best pick-up move is to unzip your pants, expose yourself and say "do whatever you want", you are not representing your employer very well. There is a consistent pattern of sub-human behavior which casts your business in a bad way you have to do something.
I also wish he would walk away from the Steelers and retire. IMO if he walked away or was not a pro athlete he would already be in jail or beaten to a pulp. Either way he would not be a exposing himself or forcing himself on star struck college co-eds.

In a pathetic attempt to rerail this thread - ESPN reporting that Pittsburgh is shopping Big Ben for a top ten pick