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Either embrace your logic or don't; your failure to see the analogy is the failure to embrace your own twisted logic quoted above. Just wondering if you really want to own that quote. |
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An idea that is frankly disgusting. That's no broad brush. That's a comment on a comment left by someone else. And I don't assume that you speak for every privileged, white, heterosexual male when you make a comment, so why would you assume that I'm speaking for anyone but myself here? Anyone could've made the homophobic=fag comment, because it used the same logic that Doreen's wonderful comment used, but you're able to brush it off because it was *me* who said it. And this may surprise you, but "oh you always bring it to the gay thing," simply because of who I am, is a pretty typical, well-worn silencing technique used towards any criticism. It happens all the time to women, people of color, gays, any marginalized group...'oh why do you always have to make it about you?' I don't expect you to believe that, or even read it thoughtfully from where you're standing, however. |
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Obviously, a strong Israeli-American relationship is important because it gives us a military foothold in a region we most need it, and culturally it's the only country in the Middle East that has any similarity to the US. However, are we spending too much money for it? The 2010 budget has $53 billion for international affairs, of which 50%(!!!) is appropriated for Israel- $4,000 per person in Israel! A good amount of this goes into developing weaponry in Israel, whereas in the last 10 years they have proceeded to try to sell these goods to potentially unsavory types (particularly China- whom I'd hope is not a threat but who knows.) Israel needs us a lot more than we need them... and we need them, but at what cost? (BTW, I don't think anybody, especially the President, has illusions that if we ever cut ties with Israel that the terrorist nations would "like" us better.) That being said- Joe Biden's writer should be fired for his use of words. While I think the motion was correct, because another Israel-Palestine conflict would cost the USA significantly on much ado about nothing (an APARTMENT BUILDING!!!) the word "condemn" was far too strong. |
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Get real - he's not acting like you want. That's not the same thing. |
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I still haven't got an answer from Nascar why he says the same thing. |
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A few of Rush Limbaugh's racist remarks (they are so easy to find):
“Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?” That's right, Rush: all black people look alike. “Right. So you go into Darfur and you go into South Africa, you get rid of the white government there. You put sanctions on them. You stand behind Nelson Mandela — who was bankrolled by communists for a time, had the support of certain communist leaders. You go to Ethiopia. You do the same thing.” Blacks = communists. Look at President Obama! “Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.” Yeah, Rushbo, you said it: Blacks = street gangs and thugs. “The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies.” Blacks = rioters and robbers. “They’re 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?” Blacks = an unimportant underclass not to be considered. [To an African American female caller]: “Take that bone out of your nose and call me back.” Can't get much more racist than that. Then there is Rush using race to disparage and attack the President of the United States: "Barack the Magic Negro" "Halfrican American" "Affirmative action candidate" “We need segregated buses… This is Obama’s America.” “Obama’s entire economic program is reparations” |
you are seriously obsessed with Rush! Wouldn't he let you into the Dittohead Club?
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Health reform - sorry, getting 33 million Americans insured is GOOD for the country, and the CBO says it will cut the deficit by 1.2 trillion. "Shovel-ready jobs" - I pass one every day here in Lexington. You could go on, but you got nothing. |
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And it's not "pigeonholing" you to say that you're privileged. I'm ridiculously privileged myself, just perhaps less so than you, but that's not a dig. Recognizing that is important to me, and I'm very well aware of the areas in which I'm privileged, and it's not pigeonholing me to realize them. However, my point in that last paragraph is that privileged groups very often do use silencing tactics, and they aren't even aware of it. I've done it in the past, you did it earlier in this thread. It's a no harm, no foul situation if people are willing to examine it, but I've found that most people are not willing to examine it and are happier going blissfully along reaping the benefits of their privilege while silencing others based on their lack of it, which is what you more or less did earlier in this thread by making it sound like if only I wasn't such a hysterical queer, I wouldn't make an analogy using gay people, despite the fact that said analogy was perfectly apt, and still hasn't been refuted. |
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France,Britain,Israel,Turkey,Afghanistan,Australia have serious problems with us,and our "New Attitude" If you choose to believe that we're saving 1.2 tril, I've got some land to sell ya. Face it,Riot...you gone over to the dark side. |
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Dark side? Naw. Refusing to associate with the dark side. Distancing myself from the preponderance of far right-wing wingnuts currently populating and claiming to represent GOP world. I think the GOP in it's current incarnation is dead and done as a political force for many, many years to come. |
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Brian, as far as I'm concerned the last half of your post is totally inappropriate! Is SEIU privleged when they steamroll people in an open forum? They've done that. Liberal backed thugs. Is that what you want for an open and frank discussion? I worked 30 yrs as a Teamster in grocery whse. But their liberal drivel and voter suggestions never ceased to show up every month at my door. Please tell me what rewards I've reaped, other than by parentage or work. |
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But you don't understand the concept of privilege at all, and your post shows that in about 16 different spots. Hard work, parentage, blah blah, they are *not* privilege. Generally people react very poorly to having privilege, as you've done here. If you honestly want to understand it (and I realize this is likely a lost cause before i even start asking), I'd be more than happy to PM with you and share links so you'd at least understand what privilege is, and from there decide whether you want to deny the fact that you have tons of it. You don't have to feel guilty or defensive about having it, which is what I was trying to get at with what I considered a very kind, fair response, but it seems you do intuitively feel guilty and defensive about it, based on your rather rancid response. Otherwise, it's cool, nothing has changed |
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The article you quote above is talking about the general budget, and appears to be written before healthcare reform even passed. There is nothing in there that supports your contention. Doesn't even mention it that I can find. The CBO analysis on the final healthcare reform bill that was passed says it will cut the federal budget deficit by 1.2 trillion in the second 10 years. That fact was well-publicized (except by Faux News) when the final healthcare reform bill passed. |
Just hope and pray, Spinderella, that the 10 million seniors who will be forced out of the medicare advantage program in the next few years don't punish your hero in 2012.
Going from a maximum out of pocket per year of 3-10k to 20% unlimited will shirley piss a few million of them off. |
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I hear the insurance industry whining ... and desperately playing loopholes and the blame game as their free ride subsidies for MA from the government have been cut off. |
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Yeah that won't piss a few million of them off. And really truth be told that generation never bases their votes for selfish reasons...they're more concerned about the younger generation. I'm sure they'll be more concerned with the insurance companies making a profit in a capitalist society. They'll gladly take the hit in their pocketbooks for the greater good. Hand me the rose-coloured glasses. Or Amnesty. That should do it. God Bless The New America sponsored by The Vatican. |
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Queen Doreen..you sure throw around generalities for someone who is obviously in tune to only those you follow. I'm sorry your blood boils ( my heart goes out to you) when one of your racist right wingers is called what he/she is. Face it...you don't hate Obama because he is black..you hate him because you are told to. |
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It's a horrible accusation - calling someone a racist. Not only is it akin to calling a black person the "N" word, it's akin to calling someone a Nazi. A racist is all about hate and thinking they're better than anyone else. It has a meaning all its own. If you can't figure that out, then you're just too lazy to find a better word to call someone who doesn't agree with your opinions about the vaunted PREZBO. Obama is a terrible President. He's dragging this country down to 3rd World level. That's how I view it. But, somehow, someway, the bootlickers who cling steadily to this snake oil salesman will spin it into saying my underlying meaning is that I'm a racist. Why? Because that's the lowest blow they can deliver - they have no other weapon. What is probably the worst part about President Obama is that he is creating a chasm between the political parties and citizens of this nation - far worse than any President I have ever lived through. |
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I don't care if our President is pink with lavender polka dots and worships a jar of mayonnaise so long as he does what's best for the country and listens to the will and desires of the people - not just those looking for someone to continually bail them out of their own bad decisions. As to the healthcare issue. Yes it desperately needs reform - just not what he's proposing. I don't want to see unfortunate people go without healthcare. I would personally agree to pay an extra percent or two in taxes to help pay for a healthcare plan for people who can't afford it or can't obtain it. And, I don't understand why a healthcare package for these people can't be paid for out of the stimulus package. I just don't like what's going to happen to my healthcare as a result of this plan. Just got a letter from my GP - he's closing his practice at the end of thise year, and I'm going to play hell finding another doctor who will take on another Medicare patient. The ER's will be devoid of people without healthcare only to be replaced by senior citizens who can't find a doctor who will accept Medicare. There's some scary stuff going on out there, and it's only going to get worse. Obama is a puppet dictator with several people well behind the scene pulling the strings Don't whine because you're unable to see them. And, I figured that all by myself. No one had to tell me. |
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Of course I dont think its on the same level as calling a black person the "n" word.. but both parties get offended when being called those terms. I think that is what she was referring to. |
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