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sham 03-20-2010 08:02 PM

It does no good to impeach. Have you seen who's in the on deck circle and the batter's box?

Succession order to the president:

1 Vice President---Joe Biden
2 Speaker of the House---Nancy Pelosi
3 President pro tempore of the Senate---Robert Byrd
4 Secretary of State---Hillary Clinton
5 Secretary of the Treasury---Timothy Geithner
6 Secretary of Defense---Robert Gates
7 Attorney General---Eric Holder
8 Secretary of the Interior---Ken Salazar
9 Secretary of Agriculture---Tom Vilsack
10 Secretary of Commerce---Gary Locke
11 Secretary of Labor---Hilda Solis
12 Secretary of Health and Human Services---Kathleen Sebelius
13 Secretary of Housing and Urban Development---Shaun Donovan
14 Secretary of Transportation---Ray LaHood
15 Secretary of Energy---Steven Chu
16 Secretary of Education---Arne Duncan
17 Secretary of Veterans Affairs---Eric Shinseki
18 Secretary of Homeland Security---Janet Napolitano

timmgirvan 03-20-2010 08:12 PM

[quote=sham]It does no good to impeach. Have you seen who's in the on deck circle and the batter's box?

Succession order to the president:

1 Vice President---Joe Biden
2 Speaker of the House---Nancy Pelosi
3 President pro tempore of the Senate---Robert Byrd
4 Secretary of State---Hillary Clinton
5 Secretary of the Treasury---Timothy Geithner
6 Secretary of Defense---Robert Gates
7 Attorney General---Eric Holder
8 Secretary of the Interior---Ken Salazar
9 Secretary of Agriculture---Tom Vilsack
10 Secretary of Commerce---Gary Locke
11 Secretary of Labor---Hilda Solis
12 Secretary of Health and Human Services---Kathleen Sebelius
13 Secretary of Housing and Urban Development---Shaun Donovan
14 Secretary of Transportation---Ray LaHood
15 Secretary of Energy---Steven Chu
16 Secretary of Education---Arne Duncan
17 Secretary of Veterans Affairs---Eric Shinseki
18 Secretary of Homeland Security---Janet Napolitano[/QUOTE


You got a serious point there,buddy!

miraja2 03-20-2010 08:33 PM

[quote=timmgirvan]
Quote:

Originally Posted by sham
It does no good to impeach. Have you seen who's in the on deck circle and the batter's box?

Succession order to the president:

1 Vice President---Joe Biden
2 Speaker of the House---Nancy Pelosi
3 President pro tempore of the Senate---Robert Byrd
4 Secretary of State---Hillary Clinton
5 Secretary of the Treasury---Timothy Geithner
6 Secretary of Defense---Robert Gates
7 Attorney General---Eric Holder
8 Secretary of the Interior---Ken Salazar
9 Secretary of Agriculture---Tom Vilsack
10 Secretary of Commerce---Gary Locke
11 Secretary of Labor---Hilda Solis
12 Secretary of Health and Human Services---Kathleen Sebelius
13 Secretary of Housing and Urban Development---Shaun Donovan
14 Secretary of Transportation---Ray LaHood
15 Secretary of Energy---Steven Chu
16 Secretary of Education---Arne Duncan
17 Secretary of Veterans Affairs---Eric Shinseki
18 Secretary of Homeland Security---Janet Napolitano[/QUOTE


You got a serious point there,buddy!

I assume that people of all political persuasions can come together and agree that the thought of Robert Byrd being president is beyond scary.

timmgirvan 03-20-2010 08:48 PM

[quote=miraja2]
Quote:

Originally Posted by timmgirvan
I assume that people of all political persuasions can come together and agree that the thought of Robert Byrd being president is beyond scary.


correctumundo!

sham 03-20-2010 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by letswastemoney
California is run by a Republican governor, and seeing as how I live in California, it's falling apart in almost every way.

Most notably, the university system in California has gone into shambles because of Arnold.

His insane policies of giving furlough days to state workers wasn't exactly bright either. I hate this governor and look forward to the day a Democrat leads this state again.

Yep. That's what you need--a democrat governor. You deserve no less. Californians have elected a strongly democratic controlled legislature for practically all of the past 40 years. No Republican governor will get much done in that atmosphere. The max marginal tax rate will rise to around 60% after ObamaCare takes full effect. Perhaps a democrat governor could get those rates even higher and run out what's left of the meager remnants of businesses that once thrived aplenty in The Golden State.

I use to live in California for a short time in the beautiful Newport Beach area, but could not wait to get out. It took a few years but I finally escaped. That's the beauty of state's rights. If a state has policies you don't agree with, you can move. That is not possible with federal programs like ObamaCare. States that tried gov run health care found the programs became insolvent over time. How anyone could believe it will work at the national level is beyond me. I guess some folks believe that if you pile bull$hit high enough and deep enough, it ain't bull$hit no more.

timmgirvan 03-20-2010 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sham
Yep. That's what you need--a democrat governor. You deserve no less. Californians have elected a strongly democratic controlled legislature for practically all of the past 40 years. No Republican governor will get much done in that atmosphere. The max marginal tax rate will rise to around 60% after ObamaCare takes full effect. Perhaps a democrat governor could get those rates even higher and run out what's left of the meager remnants of businesses that once thrived aplenty in The Golden State.

I use to live in California for a short time in the beautiful Newport Beach area, but could not wait to get out. It took a few years but I finally escaped. That's the beauty of state's rights. If a state has policies you don't agree with, you can move. That is not possible with federal programs like ObamaCare. States that tried gov run health care found the programs became insolvent over time. How anyone could believe it will work at the national level is beyond me. I guess some folks believe that if you pile bull$hit high enough and deep enough, it ain't bull$hit no more.


Apparently you've been to D.C.?:eek:

hi_im_god 03-21-2010 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sham
It does no good to impeach. Have you seen who's in the on deck circle and the batter's box?

Succession order to the president:

1 Vice President---Joe Biden
2 Speaker of the House---Nancy Pelosi
3 President pro tempore of the Senate---Robert Byrd
4 Secretary of State---Hillary Clinton
5 Secretary of the Treasury---Timothy Geithner
6 Secretary of Defense---Robert Gates
7 Attorney General---Eric Holder
8 Secretary of the Interior---Ken Salazar
9 Secretary of Agriculture---Tom Vilsack
10 Secretary of Commerce---Gary Locke
11 Secretary of Labor---Hilda Solis
12 Secretary of Health and Human Services---Kathleen Sebelius
13 Secretary of Housing and Urban Development---Shaun Donovan
14 Secretary of Transportation---Ray LaHood
15 Secretary of Energy---Steven Chu
16 Secretary of Education---Arne Duncan
17 Secretary of Veterans Affairs---Eric Shinseki
18 Secretary of Homeland Security---Janet Napolitano

i don't trust arne duncan being just 17 beats of the heart from the presidency.

hi_im_god 03-21-2010 12:44 AM

seriously.

if steven chu has an accident, it wasn't an accident.

Riot 03-21-2010 04:45 PM

Quote:

The Democrats are assaulting the very pillars of our democracy. It is time Americans drew a line in the sand. Mr. Obama crosses it at his peril.
LOL - Or not :D

The angry and hateful are just going to have to melt down completely (see the idiot citizens flinging racial slurs and gay-bashing our elected officials in the halls of Congress yesterday - disgusting and embarassing for America) or suffer living with what the electoral majority wants.

This basic start towards healthcare reform is a great day for this country :tro:

hoovesupsideyourhead 03-21-2010 05:08 PM

suffer living with what the electoral majority wants.

did they buy enough votes yet..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaWJX...layer_embedded

this must be a bad idea if 38 states are going to sue if it passes ..

hi_im_god 03-21-2010 05:19 PM

"Mr. Obama is willing to devour his presidency, his party's congressional majority and - most disturbing - our democratic institutional safeguards to enact it. He is a reckless ideologue who is willing to sacrifice the country's stability in pursuit of a socialist utopia."

outside of the preposterous assertion that it's an impeachable offense to sign a law passed by congress, this was my favorite part.

you can almost hear the volume going up to 11.

hi_im_god 03-21-2010 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
suffer living with what the electoral majority wants.

did they buy enough votes yet..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaWJX...layer_embedded

this must be a bad idea if 38 states are going to sue if it passes ..

i didn't click your link hooves but c-span says that bart stupak is supporting the bill along with other anti-abortion democrats so it's a done deal.

timmgirvan 03-21-2010 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot
LOL - Or not :D

The angry and hateful are just going to have to melt down completely (see the idiot citizens flinging racial slurs and gay-bashing our elected officials in the halls of Congress yesterday - disgusting and embarassing for America) or suffer living with what the electoral majority wants.

This basic start towards healthcare reform is a great day for this country :tro:

Get your facts straight....tape shows no slurs or gay bashing......poor libs being put upon because they're such victims!

Nascar1966 03-21-2010 05:50 PM

O'Dumbass could care less about this country. He is going to get his say no matter what the people want. He will also do it at the expense of his Democratic party members. I have not seen as much dealing as this SOB has done to get his health reform bill to pass. I thought this was a Democratic society where the people have a choice. I guess it wont this as long as this bastard is President. Hope he enjoys having the majority for now. It might be a different story in November. He is having a rough time getting a bill to pass and he has the numbers on his side. Going to be interesting when he doest have the numbers. Im sure he will veto every bill the Republicans sponser if the Republicans are the majority. This will be his way of saying f you for the way the Republicans voted on the Health reform bill. Where is the money going to come from for this health reform bill? Im sure O'Dumbass will might take the executive order for the abortion part of the bill and Make Stupak look like the dumbass that he is. If O'Dumbass gets impeached Pelosi and Reid should not too far behind him. Maybe the three of them can get impeached at the same time.

hi_im_god 03-21-2010 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmgirvan
Get your facts straight....tape shows no slurs or gay bashing......poor libs being put upon because they're such victims!

you're off message timm.

no republican is denying the slurs happened.

the play is alleging that libs and msm are distracting from the real tragedy of socialism being imposed on an unwilling public.

get with it.

GBBob 03-21-2010 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nascar1966
O'Dumbass could care less about this country. He is going to get his say no matter what the people want. He will also do it at the expense of his Democratic party members. I have not seen as much dealing as this SOB has done to get his health reform bill to pass. I thought this was a Democratic society where the people have a choice. I guess it wont this as long as this bastard is President. Hope he enjoys having the majority for now. It might be a different story in November. He is having a rough time getting a bill to pass and he has the numbers on his side. Going to be interesting when he doest have the numbers. Im sure he will veto every bill the Republicans sponser if the Republicans are the majority. This will be his way of saying f you for the way the Republicans voted on the Health reform bill. Where is the money going to come from for this health reform bill? Im sure O'Dumbass will might take the executive order for the abortion part of the bill and Make Stupak look like the dumbass that he is. If O'Dumbass gets impeached Pelosi and Reid should not too far behind him. Maybe the three of them can get impeached at the same time.

Four more years baby:tro:

Nascar1966 03-21-2010 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBBob
Four more years baby:tro:

I would rather move some where else then put up with his incompetency. Im sure your one of the people who thinks O'Dumbass is doing an awesome job as President.

timmgirvan 03-21-2010 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hi_im_god
you're off message timm.

no republican is denying the slurs happened.

the play is alleging that libs and msm are distracting from the real tragedy of socialism being imposed on an unwilling public.

get with it.

not hardly....video(not gutless Repubs) shows no taunting of racial/gay bashing. Bamboozled we are!

hi_im_god 03-21-2010 06:09 PM

the funny thing is that by the time november rolls around, i doubt this bill is an issue in many districts. some first term dem's from conservative districts may lose their seats because of their vote in favor of this bill. a handful at most.

i don't do political astrology often but it's really a no brainer to say that the economy in september/october will have more to do with the composition of the house in 2011 than anyones vote on this bill.

watch how quickly this disappears as a national issue after the vote.

hi_im_god 03-21-2010 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmgirvan
not hardly....video(not gutless Repubs) shows no taunting of racial/gay bashing. Bamboozled we are!

i wasn't able to find a link on youtube but i may not have the right keywords. what video are you talking about? did someone follow john lewis through the crowd with a video camera?

all i saw were the republican's on c-span saying the comment's from the crowd were reprehensible and didn't represent them.

GBBob 03-21-2010 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmgirvan
Get your facts straight....tape shows no slurs or gay bashing......poor libs being put upon because they're such victims!

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...id=PA0T_CLQCGr

hi_im_god 03-21-2010 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBBob

or if you prefer fox:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...ack-lawmakers/

hi_im_god 03-21-2010 06:30 PM

there you go.

224-206. the rest from here on out is pantomime.

GBBob 03-21-2010 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nascar1966
I would rather move some where else then put up with his incompetency. Im sure your one of the people who thinks O'Dumbass is doing an awesome job as President.

Look..I will move from this country when I retire because I hate what people like you have done to it. I respect everything you did in our military, as I respected what my Dad did in 3 years of service in WW2 in Europe.

Do I think he's doing an "awesome" job..no..there are a lot of things I don't agree with. But I save my hatred for those that deserve it..Hitler, Bin Laden, Child Molesters, etc. I will not "hate" a President because I disagree with his policies, let alone choose a stupid name and ridicule him on some horse board. I disliked Bush and thought many things he did tower over anything that Obama has done in terms of harming our country, but nothing would motivate me to forget my objectivity and just hate. You really think an excessive budget and a health care plan you don't like is worth this? This country went to war with Iraq because Bush either lied or was lied to..why don't you rail on the government taking over our lives about that? Get some perspective Jerry...there is an entire country and a much bigger World that will keep spinning and functioning no matter how big a bunker you dig and how many nifty nicknames you can find on www.insultourpresidentidontlike.com

timmgirvan 03-21-2010 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hi_im_god


hearsay...no video....drudge had a link yesterday.

GBBob 03-21-2010 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmgirvan
hearsay...no video....drudge had a link yesterday.

www.headinsand.com

hi_im_god 03-21-2010 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmgirvan
hearsay...no video....drudge had a link yesterday.

so... could you post the link?

you have to admit that drudge is a little dense and since i (apparently) don't have the right keywords for a successful search, it's a little difficult to refute.

i know we don't trust each other but it's hard for me to believe that 3 members of congress along with staff lied and the chairman of the republican party fell for the ruse. along with a spokesperson for the tea party.

no one's suggesting that all tea party supporter's are racists. but if you have evidence of a vast socialist conspiracy to manufacture false evidence that someone in a large crowd was an ass hole, post it.

Cannon Shell 03-21-2010 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBBob
Look..I will move from this country when I retire because I hate what people like you have done to it. I respect everything you did in our military, as I respected what my Dad did in 3 years of service in WW2 in Europe.

Do I think he's doing an "awesome" job..no..there are a lot of things I don't agree with. But I save my hatred for those that deserve it..Hitler, Bin Laden, Child Molesters, etc. I will not "hate" a President because I disagree with his policies, let alone choose a stupid name and ridicule him on some horse board. I disliked Bush and thought many things he did tower over anything that Obama has done in terms of harming our country, but nothing would motivate me to forget my objectivity and just hate. You really think an excessive budget and a health care plan you don't like is worth this? This country went to war with Iraq because Bush either lied or was lied to..why don't you rail on the government taking over our lives about that? Get some perspective Jerry...there is an entire country and a much bigger World that will keep spinning and functioning no matter how big a bunker you dig and how many nifty nicknames you can find on www.insultourpresidentidontlike.com

:tro:

timmgirvan 03-21-2010 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hi_im_god
so... could you post the link?

you have to admit that drudge is a little dense and since i (apparently) don't have the right keywords for a successful search, it's a little difficult to refute.

i know we don't trust each other but it's hard for me to believe that 3 members of congress along with staff lied and the chairman of the republican party fell for the ruse. along with a spokesperson for the tea party.

no one's suggesting that all tea party supporter's are racists. but if you have evidence of a vast socialist conspiracy to manufacture false evidence that someone in a large crowd was an ass hole, post it.

members of Congress lied.....there's a shocker!

hi_im_god 03-21-2010 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miraja2
Bye.

i can't believe that timm is now a comparative voice of reason.

it's like derby trail politics/society is exactly tracking the devolution of conservative thought.

i know i'm an elitist liberal and all but i call out scuds on his ridiculous rants. are conservatives so lock step that they're actually incapable of reining in their most radical spokespeople?

hi_im_god 03-21-2010 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmgirvan
members of Congress lied.....there's a shocker!

(sigh)

i try timm. i really do.

whenever you post whatever it is you imagine you thought you saw somewhere, i'll get back to you.

GenuineRisk 03-21-2010 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hi_im_god
i can't believe that timm is now a comparative voice of reason.

it's like derby trail politics/society is exactly tracking the devolution of conservative thought.

i know i'm an elitist liberal and all but i call out scuds on his ridiculous rants. are conservatives so lock step that they're actually incapable of reining in their most radical spokespeople?

This might answer that question:

http://www.frumforum.com/waterloo

(It's okay to read, Timm- Frum is a conservative) ;)

timmgirvan 03-21-2010 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hi_im_god
(sigh)

i try timm. i really do.

whenever you you post whatever it is you imagine you thought you saw somewhere, i'll get back to you.

I watched 2 videos.....one on politico and one other, and I couldn't hear any
slurs.

timmgirvan 03-21-2010 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk
This might answer that question:

http://www.frumforum.com/waterloo

(It's okay to read, Timm- Frum is a conservative) ;)

I read it with one eye,just in case! For the most part I agreed with Frum...he was fair in his assessments,mostly.

hi_im_god 03-21-2010 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmgirvan
I watched 2 videos.....one on politico and one other, and I couldn't hear any
slurs.

well...that settles it.

i apologize for doubting you.

random unposted video's you tell me you saw which don't contain any actual racial slurs which you could actually hear trump all other evidence.

you are now a moderate republican.

timmgirvan 03-21-2010 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hi_im_god
well...that settles it.

i apologize for doubting you.

random unposted video's you tell me you saw which don't contain any actual racial slurs which you could actually hear trump all other evidence.

you are now a moderate republican.

no video from you either...why do I have to prove a negative?

hi_im_god 03-21-2010 08:36 PM

seriously timm, i'm willing to continue this discussion but everyone that agrees with you on the health care bill wants you to drop it.

you have to back away from whatever nutty blog you're reading to understand this.

no one likes racist/gay bashing ass holes.

it's better to just let it go.

hi_im_god 03-21-2010 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmgirvan
Get your facts straight....tape shows no slurs or gay bashing......poor libs being put upon because they're such victims!

because of this.

timmgirvan 03-21-2010 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hi_im_god
seriously timm, i'm willing to continue this discussion but everyone that agrees with you on the health care bill wants you to drop it.

you have to back away from whatever nutty blog you're reading to understand this.

no one likes racist/gay bashing ass holes.

it's better to just let it go.

So the forum host has spoken.....no nutty blog.....I don't like racist/gay bashing either...I know that the majority of people at the demonstrations conducted themselves in the proper fashion...it only takes a couple idiots to ruin an occasion. It's let go

timmgirvan 03-21-2010 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hi_im_god
because of this.

I thought you were going to let it go? Apparently tape is the be all-end all.
But I'll say that a couple of people got out of line...will that make you happy?


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