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The Indomitable DrugS 03-11-2010 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by cakes44
Found the times:

Friesan Fire= 57 4/5 for 5f
Would have been a 96 Beyer if the time was posted in a running of a race the next racing day.

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Working immediately after the renovation break over a “fast” track, Friesan Fire reeled off fractions of :11.20, :22.20, :33.60, :45.20 and galloped out six furlongs in 1:14.

Sheesh ... he galloped out his final furlong in 16.20 seconds? ... the worst trotters around can do that pulling a buggy. I imagine going that slow in a gallop-out isn't uncommon .. but after tearing it up for 5f you'd think momentum would help you through the next one.

With the "gallop out" - his 6f time of 1:14 flat would have translated to a 48 Beyer.

randallscott35 03-11-2010 08:27 AM
Maybe why FF finshed dead last.

Sightseek 03-11-2010 08:35 AM
I remember the funny quote that came out of Frankel after Funny Cide's pre-Belmont work, something to the affect that he'd walk him for days and pray.

VOL JACK 03-11-2010 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Would have been a 96 Beyer if the time was posted in a running of a race the next racing day.




Sheesh ... he galloped out his final furlong in 16.20 seconds? ... the worst trotters around can do that pulling a buggy. I imagine going that slow in a gallop-out isn't uncommon .. but after tearing it up for 5f you'd think momentum would help you through the next one.

With the "gallop out" - his 6f time of 1:14 flat would have translated to a 48 Beyer.
The Fat Man is gonna be stoked that you are doing Beyers for workouts.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

miraja2 03-11-2010 02:22 PM
I know Stevie Wonderboy had an extremely fast work before the '05 Breeders' Cup Juvy. I remember that he was the fastest of something like 145 horses at whichever distance it was, but I can't remember the time/distance exactly.
I just remember it was fast.

my miss storm cat 03-11-2010 04:23 PM
Interesting thread for people like me who don't know any of this.

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Like the Candy?
:D

No love for LA Confidential?

rgustafson 03-11-2010 07:47 PM
Maybe someone who has access to DRF archives may be able to come up with the specifics. This would be in respect to a workout that Clever Trevor had prior to the 1989 St. Paul Derby. I'll never forget the description of the work by the DRF trackman in the Form. "Clever Trevor working as though possed by the devil........"

The Indomitable DrugS 03-11-2010 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by VOL JACK
The Fat Man is gonna be stoked that you are doing Beyers for workouts.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
I'm kind of bummed out ... I thought it would set him off.

Now I feel like it was all for naught.

The Indomitable DrugS 03-11-2010 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
No love for LA Confidential?
I almost never watch TV.

The candy is great though.

blackthroatedwind 03-11-2010 11:14 PM
Foolish Pleasure worked 56 and a piece ( maybe 56 2/5 ) before the Match Race.

That track was a highway however.

randallscott35 03-12-2010 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Foolish Pleasure worked 56 and a piece ( maybe 56 2/5 ) before the Match Race.

That track was a highway however.
Was it as bad a track as CD in 2001 Derby?

Sightseek 03-12-2010 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
I almost never watch TV.

The candy is great though.
It's a great movie!

VOL JACK 03-12-2010 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
I'm kind of bummed out ... I thought it would set him off.

Now I feel like it was all for naught.
I think he has you on his iggy list...:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

hoovesupsideyourhead 03-12-2010 09:15 AM
in more current news

Careless Jewel 1:01.40 H 1
Carnduff 1:01.40 H 1

we know who the top one is

who is the horse on the bottom?

palm meadows 5f yesterday

robfla 03-12-2010 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
Carnduff 1:01.40 H 1


who is the horse

palm meadows 5f yesterday

an Ontario Bred 3 y.o. Queen’s Plate nominee

The Indomitable DrugS 03-12-2010 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by VOL JACK
I think he has you on his iggy list...:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
He liked me enough at one time to share his 'Fat Graphs' concept with me and run it by me before he ever made it public in a post.

As I started to sour on synthetic tracks - and once jokingly compared him to Fischer - he flew over the handle bars and has been a vocal Anti DrugS force ever since.

VOL JACK 03-12-2010 09:26 AM
LMAO

hoovesupsideyourhead 03-12-2010 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
He liked me enough at one time to share his 'Fat Graphs' concept with me and run it by me before he ever made it public in a post.

As I started to sour on synthetic tracks - and once jokingly compared him to Fischer - he flew over the handle bars and has been a vocal Anti DrugS force ever since.
:tro: :tro: :tro:

flew over the handlebars... you cant make that stuff up lmfao!!

hoovesupsideyourhead 03-12-2010 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by VOL JACK
LMAO
thanks drugs you and fatt can have a fireside death match!!

outofthebox 03-12-2010 01:23 PM
Fastest work i ever saw personally was put in by Flying Paster. A mile in 1'33 3/5. It was right before the Strub Stakes at SA. Still got no closer to the "Bid"...

Antitrust32 03-12-2010 01:27 PM
Didnt unsound Unbridleds Song have a killer 46 workout before the derby or wood or something?

RolloTomasi 03-12-2010 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by outofthebox
Fastest work i ever saw personally was put in by Flying Paster. A mile in 1'33 3/5. It was right before the Strub Stakes at SA. Still got no closer to the "Bid"...
The Spectacular Bid biography from the Thoroughbred Legends series has The Paster workout in 1:35 2/5.

miraja2 03-12-2010 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
Didnt unsound Unbridleds Song have a killer 46 workout before the derby or wood or something?
Yep. 4f in :46 flat before the Derby.

Come to think of it, I think 4f in :46 flat was also the number for Stevie Wonderboy's pre-BC workout that I referenced earlier.

I don't think the track was recorded as being particularly fast when Stevie Wonderboy did it. I have absolutely no recollection of what it was like when UnbSng had his workout.

Antitrust32 03-12-2010 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by miraja2
Yep. 4f in :46 flat before the Derby.

Come to think of it, I think 4f in :46 flat was also the number for Stevie Wonderboy's pre-BC workout that I referenced earlier.

I don't think the track was recorded as being particularly fast when Stevie Wonderboy did it. I have absolutely no recollection of what it was like when UnbSng had his workout.
in bar shoes with a quarter crack that should have kept him far far away from the Derby.

Good ol' Paragallo doing what is right for his horses like always! Doubt Ryerson even had a choice in the matter.

miraja2 03-12-2010 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
in bar shoes with a quarter crack that should have kept him far far away from the Derby.

Good ol' Paragallo doing what is right for his horses like always! Doubt Ryerson even had a choice in the matter.
I know what you mean. Asking a horse with bad legs and a quarter crack to bounce back from a blistering workout to win a 10f race from post #20 is sure asking an awful lot of any horse.
On the flip-side, he was the most talented horse in the race. I imagine it is pretty difficult to decide not to run when you know your horse is the most talented animal in the Kentucky Derby....and he did run pretty damn well.

cakes44 03-12-2010 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by miraja2
I know what you mean. Asking a horse with bad legs and a quarter crack to bounce back from a blistering workout to win a 10f race from post #20 is sure asking an awful lot of any horse.
On the flip-side, he was the most talented horse in the race. I imagine it is pretty difficult to decide not to run when you know your horse is the most talented animal in the Kentucky Derby....and he did run pretty damn well.
...if only Mike Smith would have moved earlier and went wider on the turn.


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