Derby Trail Forums

Derby Trail Forums (http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/index.php)
-   The Steve Dellinger Discourse Den (http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=4)
-   -   Public Option (http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34503)

Riot 02-23-2010 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63
Quotes based on 46yr old male non-smoker. PPO $63 a month and up (Lexington KY area) NEXT!!!

https://www.ehealthinsurance.com/ehi...1A47E6.prfo13b

Nonsense. No, Dell, a real quote, for a real person. Quoting an ad doesn't count.

Riot 02-23-2010 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32
I know right.. If you want a "cadallac" plan of course its going to be outrageous. I get faxes all the time for a decent health care plan for like 70 bucks a month that includes scrips.

And I'm not a healthy young person either. I probably have more issues than most of you old people! ;)

So you refuse the challenge of getting healthcare quotes for yourself? Faxed ads are proof of nothing.

Do you have health insurance through work? If so, call that provider, and see how much it would cost you to continue that plan on your own if you quit work - and not under Cobra, but as an individual.

And if you don't have a plan through work, I challenge you to call Humana and Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield (what we have in KY) and get quotes for yourself, as an individual being insured (no group), with a $2000/year deductable. Get back to us on the costs.

Same goes for you, Dell - if you have insurance at work, call your provider and ask how much the exact same plan will cost you a year as an individual, not under COBRA.

Riot 02-23-2010 03:51 PM

Research 2000 Poll info published today, comparing preference for Senate Plan vs Public Option:

* In Nevada, only 34% support the Senate bill, while 56% support the public option.

* In Illinois, only 37% support the Senate bill, while 68% support the public option.

* In Washington State, only 38% support the Senate bill, while 65% support the public option.

* In Missouri, only 33% support the Senate bill, while 57% support the public option.

* In Virginia, only 36% support the Senate bill, while 61% support the public option.

* In Iowa, only 35% support the Senate bill, while 62% support the public option.

*In Minnesota, only 35% support the Senate bill, while 62% support the public option.

* In Colorado, only 32% support the Senate bill, while 58% support the public option.

timmgirvan 02-23-2010 04:26 PM

Rasmussen 41% for it......56% oppose it!

SCUDSBROTHER 02-23-2010 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
wouldn't medicaid/medicare and ssi be a part of this scenario? i agree, it is a necessity to have coverage.

No, it would cover him if his Cobra ran out. Once he's dead from the brain cancer, then she'd have go back to work. Just saying that if people want this to be treated like a luxury item, then they'd better protect a stay at home wife with some damn good life insurance on the breadwinner.

Danzig 02-23-2010 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
No, it would cover him if his Cobra ran out. Once he's dead from the brain cancer, then she'd have go back to work. Just saying that if people want this to be treated like a luxury item, then they'd better protect a stay at home wife with some damn good life insurance on the breadwinner.

i recommend to everyone they buy life insurance, as well as short term disability. it's dirt cheap here. but do they listen? some do, some don't. i have a guy here who's the only one working, makes good money. did he take the health insurance out that we offer? he'd pay $10 a week. no, he did not. but when he doesn't feel well, i have to hear how he won't go to the doctor because he hasn't got insurance.
i understand there are people out there who want it, but it isn't offered. what i fail to understand is folks like this guy, who doesn't bother to get it. insanity.
men who marry and are the sole, or primary earner, are irresponsible if they don't take out life insurance. especially if they also start having children. it's not cheap to bury someone anymore, why saddle your widow with that debt, along with all that goes with it?

Riot 02-23-2010 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmgirvan
Rasmussen 41% for it......56% oppose it!

The public option? Or a vote on healthcare? (which has gotten low numbers all last summer and over winter, Dell posted some) - your numbers look like the general "support for healthcare" numbers, not public option numbers.

brianwspencer 02-23-2010 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32
I get faxes all the time for a decent health care plan for like 70 bucks a month that includes scrips.

Hmmmm....can you send some of those my way, please?

Since I'm paying more than twice that for a plan that covers somewhere between zero and nothing unless I get catastrophically injured, basically.

Antitrust32 02-24-2010 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianwspencer
Hmmmm....can you send some of those my way, please?

Since I'm paying more than twice that for a plan that covers somewhere between zero and nothing unless I get catastrophically injured, basically.

who knows it could be bullshit insurance with a fraud company.. but they make the plan sound decent in the fax! says covers catasrtophic, doc visits, scripts.. its probably bull.

Riot 02-24-2010 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32
who knows it could be bullshit insurance with a fraud company.. but they make the plan sound decent in the fax! says covers catasrtophic, doc visits, scripts.. its probably bull.

Sure, the low rates all sounds great, until you sit down with the agent and start giving your medical history. Then they decide what they will exclude, or include - or what they include now, so when later you make a claim on it, they have a preconceived out plan that can say, "Oh, we goofed up, we should have excluded you for that when you bought the policy, so sorry, so we will exclude that now" (yes, that exactly happened to me)


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:02 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.