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slotdirt 02-05-2010 12:10 PM

But I can't fight this feeling anymore?

Smooth Operator 02-06-2010 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by tector
I don't even want a April 3 race--it would plainly be a rush job. Everybody here knows it, and Asmussen has basically said it already. That is not a true test of anybody, and unnecessarily raises the possibility of injuries that might not otherwise happen. The recriminations will be all over the place if something bad happens on April 3.

Get it done right.

Lol … you must be another frightened Lucky Alexander fan.

Don't worry … plenty of time for Jax/Ass to come up with an excuse to duck Big Mama in Arky…

Indian Charlie 02-06-2010 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator
Lol … you must be another frightened Lucky Alexander fan.

Don't worry … plenty of time for Jax/Ass to come up with an excuse to duck Big Mama in Arky…

If those two ever meet, I'm going to go back and repost all 586 of your Zenyatta is great posts.

Smooth Operator 02-06-2010 01:07 AM

Somehow it doesn't surprise me that you'd have the time to do something like that…

Indian Charlie 02-06-2010 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator
Somehow it doesn't surprise me that you'd have the time to do something like that…

You mean like this?

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sea...earchid=500023

That took all of fifteen seconds.

Somehow it doesn't surprise me that you are an idiot.

Patrick333 02-06-2010 08:21 AM

I wish they'd run and get it over with. I think I'd root for a DH for fifth.

The Indomitable DrugS 02-06-2010 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
You mean like this?

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sea...earchid=500023

That took all of fifteen seconds.

Somehow it doesn't surprise me that you are an idiot.

Your link doesn't seem to work.

Danzig 02-06-2010 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
If those two ever meet, I'm going to go back and repost all 586 of your Zenyatta is great posts.


he'll just remind you that he said duck 'in arky'. i'd imagine it's a slim chance they meet there, because of the timing and rachel having only one work so far this year. but smooth op will of course make it sound far more sinister.
reading his posts, imo, are the equivalent of nascars. probably due to the ridiculous nicknames, which only detract from whatever it is he's saying.

MaTH716 02-06-2010 09:25 AM

Forty Six contributions in these threads by the Toll Booth Operator on "Big Z mama" :rolleyes:

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sea...earchid=500086

Danzig 02-06-2010 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaTH716
Forty Six contributions in these threads by the Toll Booth Operator on "Big Z mama" :rolleyes:

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sea...earchid=500086

it's a shame really...zenyatta is truly a fantastic horse, everyone knows that. but why does that automaticlly mean rachel is not? i guess only SO can answer that. his type can put you off something in a hurry.

Indian Charlie 02-06-2010 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Your link doesn't seem to work.

Weird.

It worked earlier.

The search results must expire.

Indian Charlie 02-06-2010 12:59 PM

Maybe this will work:

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/member.php?u=379

Under forum info, click "find all posts by smooth operator"

Danzig 02-06-2010 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
Maybe this will work:

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/member.php?u=379

Under forum info, click "find all posts by smooth operator"


i'll take 'why would you want to' for $200, alex

Indian Charlie 02-06-2010 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
i'll take 'why would you want to' for $200, alex

After 586 posts extolling Zenyatta and ridiculing RA, it would be nice to have a full list of posts making him eat his words.

Smooth Operator 02-06-2010 10:49 PM

QR lookin' good


Z is a runaway freight train in the lane.


Could be a multi-loss kinda season for that reigning Horse-of-the-Year




Wouldn't that be a shame. :D

Smooth Operator 02-06-2010 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
it's a shame really...zenyatta is truly a fantastic horse, everyone knows that. but why does that automaticlly mean rachel is not? i guess only SO can answer that. his type can put you off something in a hurry.

As the late Johnnie Cochran might've said … Z got hosed, so we wanna see RA get exposed.

Danzig 02-07-2010 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator
As the late Johnnie Cochran might've said … Z got hosed, so we wanna see RA get exposed.


shouldn't you be out celebrating getting a commitment to usc from a 13 year old? just think, in six/seven years you guys surely will be favored to win the national title...

Indian Charlie 02-07-2010 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
shouldn't you be out celebrating getting a commitment to usc from a 13 year old? just think, in six/seven years you guys surely will be favored to win the national title...

SC's just been unlucky to not win the last several national championships.

AeWingnut 02-07-2010 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
But I can't fight this feeling anymore?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYoh_sV35eA

Danzig 02-07-2010 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
SC's just been unlucky to not win the last several national championships.

oh, i know! but with lane riding to the rescue.....lol i can't even finish that sentence. i just hope everyone takes smooths posts for what they are-completely biased west is best, no one else should even exist cheerleading. no logic, thought or sense of reality involved.

Smooth Operator 02-07-2010 05:37 PM

Who can blame the kid, Danzig.

If you want to be a big-time pro qb, you come to Cali and play some college ball at SC.


It's a no-brainer. :cool:

johnny pinwheel 02-08-2010 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator
QR lookin' good


Z is a runaway freight train in the lane.


Could be a multi-loss kinda season for that reigning Horse-of-the-Year




Wouldn't that be a shame. :D

i agree, but i was totally wrong about zenyatta. they are looking like they will show up for this race and rachel is balking. i really thought it would be the other way around but the way zenyatta finally beat the boys must of given these people alot of confidence.(last year they treated her with kid gloves with that schedule) thats what cost her horse of the year, they didn't travel and face different competition while rachel did. but you are right, QR is living up to what everyone thought he could be and that could spell the end of the "girls rule" era! at 4 years old this horse (QR) is no macho again or bullsbay thats for sure.

MaTH716 02-08-2010 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel
i agree, but i was totally wrong about zenyatta. they are looking like they will show up for this race and rachel is balking. i really thought it would be the other way around but the way zenyatta finally beat the boys must of given these people alot of confidence.(last year they treated her with kid gloves with that schedule) thats what cost her horse of the year, they didn't travel and face different competition while rachel did. but you are right, QR is living up to what everyone thought he could be and that could spell the end of the "girls rule" era! at 4 years old this horse (QR) is no macho again or bullsbay thats for sure.

Even though they said they retired her, she's been working steadily (mind you very well) since the BC, where Rachael has been off since the Woodward. I don't think they are ducking her, but they aren't going to race her until they're sure she's ready.

RockHardTen1985 02-08-2010 10:19 AM

:o
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Originally Posted by MaTH716
Even though they said they retired her, she's been working steadily (mind you very well) since the BC, where Rachael has been off since the Woodward. I don't think they are ducking her, but they aren't going to race her until they're sure she's ready.


LOL, its been months, if they wanted her to be ready she could be.
I beleive anyone who understands this game, knows Rachel is now the third gun.

MaTH716 02-08-2010 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
:o


LOL, its been months, if they wanted her to be ready she could be.
I beleive anyone who understands this game, knows Rachel is now the third gun.

I'm sure that they had a plan/schedule on bringing Rachael back (if they even intend to). Facing Zenyatta wasn't in those plans because she was supposedly retired. So what was Rachael's camp supposed to do, drop everything and start drilling the day after Zenyatta's camp announced that she wasn't retiring? I guess if they really wanted her to race at Oaklawn, they could probably have her ready. But that being said, why should they scrap/rush their schedule to race a horse who didn't want to leave California to race Rachael while she was in a peak form.
Maybe I don't understand the game and Rachael is indeed now the third gun. If that is the case, I'm trying to figure out who told you.

Smooth Operator 02-08-2010 05:31 PM

Pretty safe to say that the Met Mile won't be on RA's schedule either. :D

Danzig 02-08-2010 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
:o


LOL, its been months, if they wanted her to be ready she could be.
I beleive anyone who understands this game, knows Rachel is now the third gun.

you did the math on how much each horse ran last year, right? rachel didn't have a break from the time she started at two until after the woodward.

GBBob 02-08-2010 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
:o


LOL, its been months, if they wanted her to be ready she could be.
I beleive anyone who understands this game, knows Rachel is now the third gun.

Well...they didn't want her ready so why should she be? As mentioned, Z's camp was deceitful at best and lied at worst, but..that's their right so it doesn't matter. I really have tried to appreciate Z and RA for what they are..great stories and great horses, but saying that RA is now a third wheel because QR ran a huge race against so-so horses on a track built for him is almost as precious as your Peyton Manning thread. Stop ranking them until they are all in mid season shape.

Indian Charlie 02-08-2010 08:24 PM

Zenyatta is the best horse ever.

VOL JACK 02-08-2010 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
:o


LOL, its been months, if they wanted her to be ready she could be.
I beleive anyone who understands this game, knows Rachel is now the third gun.


I think this is the dumbest thing you have ever said.....and that is a mouth full.

Indian Charlie 02-08-2010 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK
I think this is the dumbest thing you have ever said.....and that is a mouth full.

I am the Tard Whisperer, and he's the favorite one in my flock.

VOL JACK 02-08-2010 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
I am the Tard Whisperer, and he's the favorite one in my flock.

:tro:

johnny pinwheel 02-08-2010 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaTH716
Even though they said they retired her, she's been working steadily (mind you very well) since the BC, where Rachael has been off since the Woodward. I don't think they are ducking her, but they aren't going to race her until they're sure she's ready.

i don't think its ducking, but why did they give her so much time before training again? regaurdless of what other horses do. i understand the horse needed a rest but after all these months and as hard as she did race last year. it will be interesting to see if shes even the same horse this year.

MaTH716 02-09-2010 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel
i don't think its ducking, but why did they give her so much time before training again? regaurdless of what other horses do. i understand the horse needed a rest but after all these months and as hard as she did race last year. it will be interesting to see if shes even the same horse this year.

I'm guessing that they have a limited schedule planned for her this year and Oaklawn (Apple Blossom) was never in the equation. Not sure what they are targeting, but I'm sure that they will take their time getting her ready for whatever it is. But would anyone really be suprised if she didn''t make it back to the track? Unfortunately that's a possibilty too.

freddymo 02-09-2010 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
I'm guessing that they have a limited schedule planned for her this year and Oaklawn (Apple Blossom) was never in the equation. Not sure what they are targeting, but I'm sure that they will take their time getting her ready for whatever it is. But would anyone really be suprised if she didn''t make it back to the track? Unfortunately that's a possibilty too.

Aren't they just trying to get her back up to speed and healthy and assuming all goes well the chips (races) will come as she goes. It's not a machine and weather and her health does matter on timing. She will be back when she is ready. Hopefully she races 6 times May thru Nov. I would think that is the best case

MaTH716 02-09-2010 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
Aren't they just trying to get her back up to speed and healthy and assuming all goes well the chips (races) will come as she goes. It's not a machine and weather and her health does matter on timing. She will be back when she is ready. Hopefully she races 6 times May thru Nov. I would think that is the best case

I agree Freddy, I'm not questioning their timing or the way they are working her back. But I do think that they have a few ideas/races where they might end up.

johnny pinwheel 02-09-2010 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaTH716
I'm guessing that they have a limited schedule planned for her this year and Oaklawn (Apple Blossom) was never in the equation. Not sure what they are targeting, but I'm sure that they will take their time getting her ready for whatever it is. But would anyone really be suprised if she didn''t make it back to the track? Unfortunately that's a possibilty too.

as a handicapper i was thinking the same thing. she may not race again but they are training her and it all sounds good. but, i also think the water will be deeper this year. face it, the horse has a big target on its back and theres a couple horses that look like they are already cranked up and ready to go. (zenyatta, musket man and quality road) i know the "lengend" status she carries on this forum but this will be a tough comeback when it comes to beating these horses. i look at it this way, the field she beat in the woodward was no better than the field that quality road just dismantled. her preakness was great so was the haskell, but anyone that thinks some of her form was not dressed up is not in reality. i try not to get emotional about these things, it costs money. it looks like if all the players stay healthy we will have a great handicap division this year. thank goodness, because i'm tired of the 3 year olds dominating the sport.

Smooth Operator 02-09-2010 10:35 AM

They're runnin' scared now.


Hopefully Big Z gets the first crack at her … before QR drowns her. :D

Indian Charlie 02-09-2010 11:57 AM

Can you hear me Smooth Operator?

You need to cross into the light (of common sense).

signed,

The Tard Whisperer

RockHardTen1985 02-09-2010 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK
I think this is the dumbest thing you have ever said.....and that is a mouth full.

QR and Z are better. I beleive that and actually have for a while.


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