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RockHardTen1985 01-16-2010 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
Let's hope it happens


The injury or race?

freddymo 01-16-2010 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
The injury or race?

The race.. Rachel has a lot of work to do to get back to where she was.. Sometimes they dont come back the way they left?

Arletta 01-16-2010 07:12 PM

Well at least those that did'nt get a chance to get the free poster on Dec.26th still have another chance :)

Arletta 01-16-2010 07:15 PM

Just 6 days ago:

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...-still-retired

"Jerry Moss, who owns Zenyatta with his wife, Ann, reiterated that “nothing has changed” regarding Zenyatta as he watched Shirreffs saddle Neko Bay shortly before the San Pasqual Handicap (gr. II) at Santa Anita Jan. 9."


Glad they changed their minds...(at least for this week.)

Coach Pants 01-16-2010 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
Let's hope it happens

Why? I don't like the connections involved. I don't wish good luck for them.

Smooth Operator 01-16-2010 07:33 PM

Big Mama gunna take a road trip to Arky… :cool:

DaTruth 01-16-2010 07:41 PM

If they meet before the fall, it is going to be in the La Troienne on the Oaks card.

freddymo 01-16-2010 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Why? I don't like the connections involved. I don't wish good luck for them.

Actually you do, Moss is about to race a 6 year old mare that won the BC Classic and is undefeated. Ok the 09 campaign was Bull Shat other then the Classic but they still raced her in the Classic. Now Mr and Mrs. figure watching Zenyatta win lose or draw is better then waiting 3 years till her foal hopefully trys to accomplish what she can and will.. I am a Rachel guy I think she is the single most electric filly ever BUT you have to respect Zenyatta and hope she continues her winning ways..

Coach Pants 01-16-2010 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
Actually you do, Moss is about to race a 6 year old mare that won the BC Classic and is undefeated. Ok the 09 campaign was Bull Shat other then the Classic but they still raced her in the Classic. Now Mr and Mrs. figure watching Zenyatta win lose or draw is better then waiting 3 years till her foal hopefully trys to accomplish what she can and will.. I am a Rachel guy I think she is the single most electric filly ever BUT you have to respect Zenyatta and hope she continues her winning ways..

No I don't. My disdain for Jerry Moss has multiplied to the point that if I could give birth to gremlins I would reproduce enough of them to kill every douchebag rich guy with no testosterone on the planet.

I sort of understood why they played chicken in 2009. Go undefeated and retire the horse after the BC. NOW that is not the case. It makes me think that his wife is calling the shots and/or he's getting estrogen shots from a quack LA doctor.

freddymo 01-16-2010 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
No I don't. My disdain for Jerry Moss has multiplied to the point that if I could give birth to gremlins I would reproduce enough of them to kill every douchebag rich guy with no testosterone on the planet.

I sort of understood why they played chicken in 2009. Go undefeated and retire the horse after the BC. NOW that is not the case. It makes me think that his wife is calling the shots and/or he's getting estrogen shots from a quack LA doctor.

Your 73ish and Anne is still ........your Balls..Coach have a heart you can let her favorite mare run a few more times.. Even a Black man likes a good rub and tug

Coach Pants 01-16-2010 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
Your 73ish and Anne is still ........your Balls..Coach have a heart you can let her favorite mare run a few more times.. Even a Black man likes a good rub and tug

Yeah well she's been jacking us all off and stopping before we come. She's the worst kind of broad.

freddymo 01-16-2010 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Yeah well she's been jacking us all off and stopping before we come. She's the worst kind of broad.

Actually if you are 75 and feeding on a cialis bag, Anne aint half bad.. Even for a well incorporated man of color.. Maybe you could even ask her to soak the saddle cloth in hot water for the winners share of the purse.. Even Foxy Brown could compile?

Coach Pants 01-16-2010 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
Actually if you are 75 and feeding on a cialis bag, Anne aint half bad.. Even for a well incorporated man of color.. Maybe you could even ask her to soak the saddle cloth in hot water for the winners share of the purse.. Even Foxy Brown could compile?

She hit the wall a few years ago. She's a 3 in L.A. with the kind of scratch he has. He should be raw doggin' a 20-something former child actress with daddy issues.

Sightseek 01-16-2010 09:48 PM

I have officially heard everything - on another forum someone said Zenyatta, not Holy Bull is the best horse Smith ever rode. :zz:

Coach Pants 01-16-2010 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
I have officially heard everything - on another forum someone said Zenyatta, not Holy Bull is the best horse Smith ever rode. :zz:

That segment of the fan base is called Zentardas

Sightseek 01-16-2010 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
That segment of the fan base is called Zentardas

:D :tro:

letswastemoney 01-16-2010 10:08 PM

I'd say Cigar is the best horse Mike Smith has ever ridden

The Indomitable DrugS 01-16-2010 10:11 PM

Well, I'd say Skip Away probably was.

Sightseek 01-16-2010 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Well, I'd say Skip Away probably was.


Why wasn't Bailey on him for that race?

The Indomitable DrugS 01-16-2010 10:33 PM

He made a commitment to ride Behrens earlier in the year and couldn't get out of it.

Skip Away beat Cigar as a 3yo in the Jockey Club Gold Cup and passed on the BC a few weeks later because he wasn't nomiated. I believe the thinking was that Sonny Hine would again refuse to put up a fortune to supplament and make Skip Away elidigible to run ... but when the mighty Formal Gold and many others started falling ... Skip Away was like the last survivor from an insanely awesome group of older males.

If not for a lot of key injuries ... I don't think Skip Away would have run in the Classic as a 4yo either. Going on memory though

The Indomitable DrugS 01-16-2010 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
I have officially heard everything - on another forum someone said Zenyatta, not Holy Bull is the best horse Smith ever rode. :zz:

And in other big Zenyatta is the greatest thing ever related news ...

Brent E Bartram has said that Zenyatta's dam Vertigineux is the best broodmare he's ever ridden.


philcski 01-16-2010 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by prudery
You have the worst reading comprehension issues I have ever seen ...

It was assumed she was retired, and they constantly fielded the question--that's what the frig your assumptions got you---the inability to perceive the less-than -obvious ...

You also do not consider the possibilty that the Mosses were undecided about whether to retire her or not, and kept the horse in training until they did ??? And annoyingly fluffed direct answers ..

Your peurile comment about who is a ridiculous poster deserves you a hand mirror ...

I am at least willing to read or listen to caca and respond to it somewhat civilly without pitching monkey poo ...

Clearly you are not ...

It is hardly ridiculous to examine all possibilities when the probabilities are not made clear by the only people that count here---the connections ...

BTW---It was the headline in the racing publication that Zenyatta was still retired, made by the reporter . Read it

http://www.drf.com/news/article/108816.html
Like this one? Where Shirreffs says "she will remain in my barn for a couple weeks before going to Kentucky to be bred" or "Zenyatta's retirement is a big hole for racing, not just my barn"

Couldn't be more clear that they're pulling a Brett Favre here. And I'm ecstatic about it.

prudery 01-16-2010 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
I have officially heard everything - on another forum someone said Zenyatta, not Holy Bull is the best horse Smith ever rode. :zz:

A comment like that tells me you haven't heard much ...It is pretty minor in the grand scheme of worldly things ....

BTW, if this turns out to be true, may I serve it to you raw, or would you prefer it inserted under your pre-paid hat ???

Either way works well for me ...

Is there another forum you can go to to " tell " on this ?????

The Indomitable DrugS 01-16-2010 10:52 PM

Imagine if Inside Information or Azeri hooked Zenyatta on a dirt track?

However, the great slayer of Anaabaa's Creation, Briecat, Lethal Heat, and the horse who Interpretation beat a few weeks earlier .. is no doubt the best synthetic horse Smith has ever ridden.

prudery 01-16-2010 10:58 PM

As long as we are all being so creative and using our imaginations, just image if Jackson actually ran Rachel on synthetic and Anabaa's Creation beat HER ????

The imaginary laugh of the year--along with the crap posted by the Rachelistas ...

Carry on--dies laughing ...

Theatrical 01-16-2010 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS




However, the great slayer of Anaabaa's Creation, Briecat, Lethal Heat, and the horse who Interpretation beat a few weeks earlier .. is no doubt the best synthetic horse Smith has ever ridden.

That would be something to see. Especially since Zenyatta is a stone closer and her being hooked by anyone, with her style. would be intriguing, to say the least. Would Inside Information or Azeri be coming from the bathroom stalls at the track? They'd have to be further back than Zenyatta to have any chance of "hooking" her.

The Indomitable DrugS 01-16-2010 11:07 PM

I obviously meant hooked up with them in a race not hooked them in a pace battle.

I really do wonder about some of you people some times.

The Indomitable DrugS 01-16-2010 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by prudery
As long as we are all being so creative and using our imaginations, just image if Jackson actually ran Rachel on synthetic and Anabaa's Creation beat HER ????

The imaginary laugh of the year--along with the crap posted by the Rachelistas ...

Carry on--dies laughing ...

Rachel Alexandra probably would lose to mediocre allowance horses like that on synthetic.

Why would that be funny? Have you looked at Asmussen's record on synthetic tracks?

I guess I'm a 'Zenyattaistas' because I got mocked on this forum for saying that she was better than Nashoba's Key? And I do believe I was the only one (at that time) who posted saying that she was better than Nashoba's Key.

Theatrical 01-16-2010 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
I obviously meant hooked up with them in a race not hooked them in a pace battle.

I really do wonder about some of you people some times.

Of course you do. I can't read what passes for your mind. You put it out there and I responded accordingly.

Too bad you have to resort to insults based on something you wrote. How unsurprised am I. Why not try writing posts that people can understand instead of hoping they know what you mean.

Gaining Ground 01-16-2010 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by prudery
As long as we are all being so creative and using our imaginations, just image if Jackson actually ran Rachel on synthetic and Anabaa's Creation beat HER ????

The imaginary laugh of the year--along with the crap posted by the Rachelistas ...

Carry on--dies laughing ...

how come you ignored philcskis post? you were pretty sure they never said zenyatta was retired, but its all right there.

DaTruth 01-16-2010 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
That segment of the fan base is called Zentardas

What do you call the subgroup of Zentardas who blow kisses at her when she walks onto the track?

The Indomitable DrugS 01-16-2010 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Theatrical
Too bad you have to resort to insults based on something you wrote. How unsurprised am I. Why not try writing posts that people can understand instead of hoping they know what you mean.

Too bad you have to resort to tedious ankle biting in an effort to try and derail a thread.

Remember that time Theatrical posted something intelligent, interesting, or profitable?

Yeah, I don't remember that either.

prudery 01-16-2010 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Rachel Alexandra probably would lose to mediocre allowance horses like that on synthetic.

Why would that be funny? Have you looked at Asmussen's record on synthetic tracks?

I guess I'm a 'Zenyattaistas' because I got mocked on this forum for saying that she was better than Nashoba's Key? And I do believe I was the only one (at that time) who posted saying that she was better than Nashoba's Key.


Anabaa's Creation is cited as " junk " that Zenyatta barely beat, while the better horses she did beat don't get mentioned ...

I never said it would be funny if she beat Rachel on synthetic--rather it would be ironic--as she is the gold standard for some that knock Z ...

I have no idea what you mean about Asmussen's synthetic record--does HE run on it ??? Rachel's is perfect so far ...

I realize this is a subtle analogy ...Perhaps it would be really funny and make more sense if I had said what if Anabaa's Creation beat Rachel on dirt---is that more obvious for your funny bone or mine ????

The second paragraph I can not respond to because it needs some kind of translation ...

PeteMugg 01-16-2010 11:22 PM

I think this is all a ploy. Wait and see, Zenyatta and Favre will show up in a commercial together.

prudery 01-16-2010 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Too bad you have to resort to tedious ankle biting in an effort to try and derail a thread.

Remember that time Theatrical posted something intelligent, interesting, or profitable?

Yeah, I don't remember that either.


Razidyne is your friend ...

prudery 01-16-2010 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Too bad you have to resort to tedious ankle biting in an effort to try and derail a thread.

Remember that time Theatrical posted something intelligent, interesting, or profitable?

Yeah, I don't remember that either.


BTW---I love ankle biting---I am a short person ...

The Indomitable DrugS 01-16-2010 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by prudery
BTW---I love ankle biting---I am a short person ...

Read more and post less.

You could also quit sucking dogsh!t through a straw.

Theatrical 01-16-2010 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Too bad you have to resort to tedious ankle biting in an effort to try and derail a thread.

Remember that time Theatrical posted something intelligent, interesting, or profitable?

Yeah, I don't remember that either.

LOL. This is the best you've got? YOU put it out there about Inside Information and Azeri hooking Zenyatta. I simply replied that it would be intriguing for any horse to hook Zenyatta, with her style and this is what you come up with? Once again, how unsurprised am I.

The Indomitable DrugS 01-16-2010 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by prudery
The second paragraph I can not respond to because it needs some kind of translation ...

What about it needs translation?

There was a female horse in California named Nashoba's Key. She was an undefeated Multiple Grade 1 winner on synthetic tracks. She had a bunch of rabid fans. I posted that the far less established Zenyatta was better than her. I was mocked for it and I don't think anyone agreed with it.

But hey, from that to 'Zenyatta hater' ?

prudery 01-16-2010 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Read more and post less.

You could also quit sucking dogsh!t through a straw.


You are mistaken---I am siphoning it to you through a straw and you just don't realize it ...

You do realize that this is all in fun, don't you ???

And that it is clearly not difficult to rattle your cage


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