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MaTH716 01-04-2010 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
The problem as I see it is how can you knock teams for losing on purpose to get a better draft position yet condone it in these cases?

I really think that is more of an NBA issue. I really can't spot a game/team that has been dumping games to get a better draft spot. I think it has to do with job security and knowing that no one is really safe in this fair weather league.

gales0678 01-04-2010 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
The problem as I see it is how can you knock teams for losing on purpose to get a better draft position yet condone it in these cases?


you can't

goodell has to impose penaltiies for all of this , i'm a jet fan , and in my heart i know the colts s/b 16-0 , but , their not , they coaches / gm pulled players and should be ashamed .....if they hadn't won a few yrs ago i could see it , but they got a super bowl 3 yrs ago .....play the starters and go for history

the worst thing to do is to pick who gets in and who doesn't .....the colts and bengals both picked who got into that 6th seed and wouldn't it be ironic if the jets beat them both again

MaTH716 01-04-2010 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
you can't

goodell has to impose penaltiies for all of this , i'm a jet fan , and in my heart i know the colts s/b 16-0 , but , their not , they coaches / gm pulled players and should be ashamed .....if they hadn't won a few yrs ago i could see it , but they got a super bowl 3 yrs ago .....play the starters and go for history

the worst thing to do is to pick who gets in and who doesn't .....the colts and bengals both picked who got into that 6th seed and wouldn't it be ironic if the jets beat them both again

I don't think the Bengals (or Colts for that matter) picked who they wanted. Give the Jets some credit, the Bengals on their best day wouldn't have won that game last night.
There is nothing that can be done about this situation. You just have to have that your club takes care of buisness early in the season and they are in the position to do what they want.

RockHardTen1985 01-04-2010 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
are you joking

best OL in football , arguably the best defense in the league right now

Superbowl not out of the question

HAHAHA OMG...
Gales 1 and done, the Bengals will crush them.

MaTH716 01-04-2010 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
HAHAHA OMG...
Gales 1 and done, the Bengals will crush them.


gales0678 01-04-2010 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
HAHAHA OMG...
Gales 1 and done, the Bengals will crush them.


why , forget last night , tell me why the jets won't be in this game as long as the qb doesn't impolde

do you see the bengals scoring every poession against this d?

otisotisotis 01-04-2010 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
HAHAHA OMG...
Gales 1 and done, the Bengals will crush them.

OMG, forget everything about my previous post.....geez, you coulda given me a few days of hope.....:eek:

docicu3 01-04-2010 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Congrats to Jets fans on making the playoffs. At least for one round there will be a team other than the Pats to root against...


Now was that nice......

Good to see you Chuck HNY 2010!!

RockHardTen1985 01-04-2010 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
why , forget last night , tell me why the jets won't be in this game as long as the qb doesn't impolde

do you see the bengals scoring every poession against this d?

I see a 27-10 type of game, Sanchez is not good. He is looking good because of the D and running game, it wont fly in the playoffs on the road. I plan on betting the Bengals and betting them hard.

gales0678 01-04-2010 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
I see a 27-10 type of game, Sanchez is not good. He is looking good because of the D and running game, it wont fly in the playoffs on the road. I plan on betting the Bengals and betting them hard.

it worked last year in balt for 2 games anyway

i don't see carson palmer as a world beater , when they have to go against a brady , manning or rivers it's a different story, next week is very winnable

Crown@club 01-04-2010 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
HAHAHA OMG...
Gales 1 and done, the Bengals will crush them.

Well so much for that....

ateamstupid 01-04-2010 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
I see a 27-10 type of game, Sanchez is not good. He is looking good because of the D and running game, it wont fly in the playoffs on the road. I plan on betting the Bengals and betting them hard.

I love you.

ateamstupid 01-04-2010 05:05 PM

Rex didn't sound too optimistic about DH, which is a shame. This is why I can't buy any of this "tainted" or "lucky" nonsense about the Jets' playoff berth when we might enter the playoffs without three of our four best players. Name ONE other team in the playoffs that lost the kind of impact players the Jets have lost and still made it. There isn't one. If any other team had Kris Jenkins and Leon Washington go down midseason, they would've spit the bit.

dalakhani 01-04-2010 07:24 PM

I take back everything I said in this thread jet fans. I was wrong, you were right.

Gales, randall and Ateam-congrats!

gales0678 01-04-2010 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
I take back everything I said in this thread jet fans. I was wrong, you were right.

Gales, randall and Ateam-congrats!


apology accepted , please root us home we are long suffering fans of gang green

i still get nightmares in my sleep over the roughing the passer play in the '86 playoffs when gastineau salmmed kosar to the turf at the old cleveland stadium , that one still stings as i think theu would have gone on and beat denver and then played the giants in the super bowl

dalakhani 01-04-2010 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
apology accepted , please root us home we are long suffering fans of gang green

i still get nightmares in my sleep over the roughing the passer play in the '86 playoffs when gastineau salmmed kosar to the turf at the old cleveland stadium , that one still stings as i think theu would have gone on and beat denver and then played the giants in the super bowl

You don't need me cheering them on. My good friend Rock Hard Ten is all gang green needs.

MaTH716 01-04-2010 09:51 PM

Whoa, Woody Johnson's daughter found dead.

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?se...ent&id=7201012

Cannon Shell 01-04-2010 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
apology accepted , please root us home we are long suffering fans of gang green

i still get nightmares in my sleep over the roughing the passer play in the '86 playoffs when gastineau salmmed kosar to the turf at the old cleveland stadium , that one still stings as i think theu would have gone on and beat denver and then played the giants in the super bowl

Jet fans are nightmares

Cannon Shell 01-04-2010 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
Whoa, Woody Johnson's daughter found dead.

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?se...ent&id=7201012

That Tila Tequila gets around doesnt she?

gales0678 01-04-2010 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
That Tila Tequila gets around doesnt she?

coming to saratoga next summer is my guess

Cannon Shell 01-04-2010 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
coming to saratoga next summer is my guess

To work at the BBQ stand?

gales0678 01-04-2010 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
To work at the BBQ stand?

no the strip club in clifton park

Cannon Shell 01-04-2010 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
no the strip club in clifton park

Carolina is setting up a stand there

gales0678 01-04-2010 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Carolina is setting up a stand there


would make $$ chuck

Cannon Shell 01-04-2010 10:22 PM

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would make $$ chuck

Steve isn't in it for money, just the prestige of having exclusive sandwich rights at the Clifton park strip club

Sammy is 1-9 to run that spot

Bigsmc 01-05-2010 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Steve isn't in it for money, just the prestige of having exclusive sandwich rights at the Clifton park strip club

Sammy is 1-9 to run that spot

Antitrust @ 3-5. Would be like putting the fox inside the henhouse.

ateamstupid 01-05-2010 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
Antitrust @ 3-5. Would be like putting the fox inside the henhouse.

Like I'm gay or something.

GBBob 01-05-2010 05:32 AM

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Like I'm gay or something.

Hey Joey..curious about something. Last year at this time it was pretty obvious how you felt about Favre and that was understandable. But a lot has happened since then and he was playing hurt to some degree that last month and couldn't throw the ball the way he wanted to. So..would you rather have Favre as he is playing now next week or SAnchez behind center?

You guys play Minny next year so it will be Favre vs Pack twice and Favre vs Jets once if he come back again.

ateamstupid 01-05-2010 05:41 AM

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Hey Joey..curious about something. Last year at this time it was pretty obvious how you felt about Favre and that was understandable. But a lot has happened since then and he was playing hurt to some degree that last month and couldn't throw the ball the way he wanted to. So..would you rather have Favre as he is playing now next week or SAnchez behind center?

You guys play Minny next year so it will be Favre vs Pack twice and Favre vs Jets once if he come back again.

Sanchez without a doubt. At least if Sanchez pisses the bed it's because he's trying too hard, whereas with Favre it's the opposite. Sanchez also can make plays with his feet, while Favre is a statue. It's trendy to crack on Sanchez, but the kid has a steep learning curve and has shown some great things, and I believe he's going to be an above average QB in the league.

But the #1 reason? Sanchez is willing to throw 12-16 passes a game. Favre's ego is way too big to sit back and watch his team run 57 times a game. As much as I dislike Schottenheimer, I feel like he was handcuffed by having to install a pass-happy offense last year to satisfy the cumslinger. Because of Sanchez's development and maturity, he's willing to defer to the running game, and that's the most important thing a QB can do in this system right now. I'd rather have a QB throw for 100 yards and make no mistakes than the forced passes Favre would give us with our running game and defense (GET WELL DAVID HARRIS, UGH).

Antitrust32 01-05-2010 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
Antitrust @ 3-5. Would be like putting the fox inside the henhouse.


I'm not really that attracted to Tila Tiquila.

Good Luck Jets... If you dont get it this year you guys will be TOUGH next year and the year after. Go Buddy Ryan's son!

MaTH716 01-05-2010 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Sanchez without a doubt. At least if Sanchez pisses the bed it's because he's trying too hard, whereas with Favre it's the opposite. Sanchez also can make plays with his feet, while Favre is a statue. It's trendy to crack on Sanchez, but the kid has a steep learning curve and has shown some great things, and I believe he's going to be an above average QB in the league.

But the #1 reason? Sanchez is willing to throw 12-16 passes a game. Favre's ego is way too big to sit back and watch his team run 57 times a game. As much as I dislike Schottenheimer, I feel like he was handcuffed by having to install a pass-happy offense last year to satisfy the cumslinger. Because of Sanchez's development and maturity, he's willing to defer to the running game, and that's the most important thing a QB can do in this system right now. I'd rather have a QB throw for 100 yards and make no mistakes than the forced passes Favre would give us with our running game and defense (GET WELL DAVID HARRIS, UGH).

Joey, I understand where you are coming from, but I really think that this team would have a realistic shot at the SB with this years healthy Favre under center. He was banged up last year and trying to learn a new offense for the first time in countless years. Also I could see Ryan giving Favre the keys to the offense (which seems to be better this year) as opposed to the Mangenius ruling with an iron fist. If the Jets make it out of the first round, they might have to play in a shootout against Colts/Chargers and I'm not sure Sanchez can win a game like that this early in his career.
They are built to win now and the only thing that might hold them up is the QB.

Bigsmc 01-05-2010 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Like I'm gay or something.

:o

Cannon Shell 01-06-2010 09:29 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playof...ory?id=4802462

Rex

SniperSB23 01-06-2010 09:35 PM

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Hey Rex, why don't you give Fireman Ed another game ball and make Kevin O'Connell a team captain again? Douche. If you replaced Ryan and Sanchez with two remotely competent individuals the Jets would have been 13-3 this year and deserving of favoritism. With those two they'll be one and done.

gales0678 01-06-2010 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Hey Rex, why don't you give Fireman Ed another game ball and make Kevin O'Connell a team captain again? Douche. If you replaced Ryan and Sanchez with two remotely competent individuals the Jets would have been 13-3 this year and deserving of favoritism. With those two they'll be one and done.

scott what do you want him to say?

i like it he shows confidence

SniperSB23 01-06-2010 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
scott what do you want him to say?

i like it he shows confidence

Just say you think your team is going to win the Super Bowl, that is showing confidence. Saying you think the team should be favorites is just being an idiot.

ateamstupid 01-06-2010 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Hey Rex, why don't you give Fireman Ed another game ball and make Kevin O'Connell a team captain again? Douche. If you replaced Ryan and Sanchez with two remotely competent individuals the Jets would have been 13-3 this year and deserving of favoritism. With those two they'll be one and done.

Sanchez, sure, but want to explain how the hell Rex has cost us four wins? He really has done little wrong this season and he's by far the biggest reason the defense is the best in the league as opposed to last year's 17th. We brought in Scott, Leonhard and Douglas, significant but hardly a complete overhaul. With Mangini this team would've been 6-10, so saying Rex is a liability rather than an asset is f ucking stupid as hell. Truthfully you sound like a bitter Bills fan, and I don't blame you.

What the f uck is wrong with giving a fan a game ball and trying to match mindgames with the Pats?

otisotisotis 01-07-2010 07:26 AM

I feel a thread meltdown coming in 2.5 days.....;)
Whodey!

randallscott35 01-07-2010 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by otisotisotis
I feel a thread meltdown coming in 2.5 days.....;)
Whodey!

You wish

SniperSB23 01-07-2010 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
What the f uck is wrong with giving a fan a game ball and trying to match mindgames with the Pats?

Cause it's fuc<ing lame and it's a slap in the face to the players out there working their asses off. In both instances someone completely unrelated to the success of the team got recognition instead of guys out there busting their asses off for the team. I couldn't have cared less about Ryan until those two moves. After the first one I lost respect for him and started to dislike him. After the second one I started to hate him so much I actually had to want the Patriots to beat them which just made me hate him even more.

Oh, and it is the Sanchez/Ryan combo that cost them four games, Ryan individually didn't cost them four. Sure Sanchez was mostly responsible for the loss to the Bills but Ryan also shares some responsibility for letting his team thrown six interceptions and losing the game when they were running down the Bills throat all day.


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