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Gander 01-11-2010 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Hater.

I dont hate your team Randall. I have no team that I root for and the only team I really root down is NE. I just want to see the 2 best teams play each other, thats all. If you guys beat the Chargers out there, I'd be impressed.

ateamstupid 01-11-2010 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Gander
Cant wait to see San Diego vs Indy in 2 weeks. Going to be an epic game.
Better than the Super Bowl. Heck it will be the Super Bowl.

The SB winner is coming out of the NFC.

Cannon Shell 01-11-2010 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
I hope you lose by ... oh wait.

well we did beat one playoff team twice this year

Cannon Shell 01-11-2010 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
The SB winner is coming out of the NFC.

Not if you know who says it is...

ateamstupid 01-11-2010 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
well we did beat one playoff team twice this year

You also fell behind 27-0 at home against the Texans before the coin toss with the playoffs on the line. But I think you know that well.

Cannon Shell 01-11-2010 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
You also fell behind 27-0 at home against the Texans before the coin toss with the playoffs on the line. But I think you know that well.

At least we were playing teams that were trying

ateamstupid 01-11-2010 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
At least we were playing teams that were trying

Yeah, and getting the sh it kicked out of you by them. Congrats.

Cannon Shell 01-11-2010 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Yeah, and getting the sh it kicked out of you by them. Congrats.

Circumstances and luck may have let the Jets get this far but we all know who the better team is. 0-2.

AeWingnut 01-11-2010 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
Cant wait to see San Diego vs Indy in 2 weeks. Going to be an epic game.
Better than the Super Bowl. Heck it will be the Super Bowl.


I'm thinking Indy can lose to the Ravens. Simply because the Colts haven't played a meaningful game in over a month

ateamstupid 01-11-2010 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Circumstances and luck may have let the Jets get this far but we all know who the better team is. 0-2.

Yeah, the 7-9 team with no receivers and a mediocre defense is the better team. When's the last time you guys won a playoff game again? Beat it, Jet fans have bigger concerns right now.

gales0678 01-11-2010 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut
I'm thinking Indy can lose to the Ravens. Simply because the Colts haven't played a meaningful game in over a month


there are some years where in this round of the playoffs it is hard to imagine any of the home teams losing


this year a valid case could be made for all 4 roads to win outright.

it is a longshot that is not impossible

it very well maybe a roadshow this weekend

Cannon Shell 01-12-2010 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Yeah, the 7-9 team with no receivers and a mediocre defense is the better team. When's the last time you guys won a playoff game again? Beat it, Jet fans have bigger concerns right now.

all those issues yet the Jets cant beat them.

Gander 01-12-2010 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
The SB winner is coming out of the NFC.

I'll disagree and make a fun bet for 1 beer this summer that the winner comes from the AFC. Okay? I think the Colts will win, but I get whoever wins the AFC and you get the NFC.

ateamstupid 01-12-2010 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
all those issues yet the Jets cant beat them.

Keep holding onto those two fluke wins. Let's not get into who has dominated the rivalry the last decade. Run along and play somewhere Dolphin fans, we're busy.

Cannon Shell 01-12-2010 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Keep holding onto those two fluke wins. Let's not get into who has dominated the rivalry the last decade. Run along and play somewhere Dolphin fans, we're busy.

Three flukes if you count the last years finale. Keep believing that the Jets are anything but a flash in the pan. They are a mirage. The exposure is coming this weekend

gales0678 01-12-2010 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Three flukes if you count the last years finale. Keep believing that the Jets are anything but a flash in the pan. They are a mirage. The exposure is coming this weekend


chuck they are very live to win this weekend , norve turner could screw up a 2 car funeral

the jets will run the ball here and paly keep away from rivers , tila tequila will torment merriman this week for us:D :D

Cannon Shell 01-12-2010 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
chuck they are very live to win this weekend , norve turner could screw up a 2 car funeral

the jets will run the ball here and paly keep away from rivers , tila tequila will torment merriman this week for us:D :D

33-10

gales0678 01-12-2010 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
33-10


jets?

randallscott35 01-12-2010 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
33-10

Chuck, you didn't think the Jets would beat the bungles. You are beoming the new PG1985

Cannon Shell 01-12-2010 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
jets?

yeah sure...

Cannon Shell 01-12-2010 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Chuck, you didn't think the Jets would beat the bungles. You are beoming the new PG1985

I'd rather be PG than Jets fan

gales0678 01-12-2010 08:09 PM

hey chuck if the jets beat SD can i saddle one of the Dee Tee runners at the Spa and tell all the owners that the horse is ready and get to the windows as soon as possible?


if they lose i will muck stalls for a day under your asst's supervision?

randallscott35 01-12-2010 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I'd rather be PG than Jets fan

That can't be true. Look at that kid, he maybe the worst gambler since William Macy in The Cooler.

Cannon Shell 01-12-2010 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
That can't be true. Look at that kid, he maybe the worst gambler since William Macy in The Cooler.

Give him a firemans hat.....

Cannon Shell 01-12-2010 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
hey chuck if the jets beat SD can i saddle one of the Dee Tee runners at the Spa and tell all the owners that the horse is ready and get to the windows as soon as possible?


if they lose i will muck stalls for a day under your asst's supervision?

Jets in SD = Serena in US Open

3kings 01-12-2010 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678

if they lose i will muck stalls for a day under your asst's supervision?

Make the bet Chuck, maybe we can get Ramon D. to be his supervisor.

randallscott35 01-12-2010 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Jets in SD = Serena in US Open

When do the Williams sisters come clean about their steroid use. Puhleeze. Left Bank had fewer roids in him.

gales0678 01-12-2010 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 3kings
Make the bet Chuck, maybe we can get Ramon D. to be his supervisor.


chuck don't let stiffs ride for him

ateamstupid 01-13-2010 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Three flukes if you count the last years finale. Keep believing that the Jets are anything but a flash in the pan. They are a mirage. The exposure is coming this weekend

You don't get it. Jet fans aren't gonna be torn up if we get killed on Sunday. The AFC East is ours to lose starting next year. You can't honestly think the Dolphins look as good for the near future as the Jets. Your fat douche HC just had to fire his defensive coordinator FFS. Get a clue and worry about your own crappy team.

Antitrust32 01-13-2010 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Three flukes if you count the last years finale. Keep believing that the Jets are anything but a flash in the pan. They are a mirage. The exposure is coming this weekend

teams with defense's as great as the Jets are not frauds or "mirage". But you know that..

dalakhani 01-13-2010 08:14 AM

I dont see the Jets defense as "great". I think its good but hardly great. Great defenses don't get gashed on the ground like the jets have been more than once this year.

I realize their ranking but stats lie all the time. They do have the best CB in the league hands down and his ability to take away an entire side of the field allows them to mask alot of their problems. He is the best I have seen since Deion. Certainly better than Champ even in his best days. They have a ton of good linebackers but their d line is weak especially without jenkins.

I think with a rookie QB and a first year coach, anything from here on out is gravy. The year has to be viewed as very successful and the AFC east will be wide open next year.

GBBob 01-13-2010 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
I dont see the Jets defense as "great". I think its good but hardly great. Great defenses don't get gashed on the ground like the jets have been more than once this year.

I realize their ranking but stats lie all the time. They do have the best CB in the league hands down and his ability to take away an entire side of the field allows them to mask alot of their problems. He is the best I have seen since Deion. Certainly better than Champ even in his best days. They have a ton of good linebackers but their d line is weak especially without jenkins.

I think with a rookie QB and a first year coach, anything from here on out is gravy. The year has to be viewed as very successful and the AFC east will be wide open next year.

I am as far from a fan of their's as possible, but I think people are writing off the Patriots a little too easily

dalakhani 01-13-2010 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
I am as far from a fan of their's as possible, but I think people are writing off the Patriots a little too easily

Im not. But the days of walking into the season and having the Pats pencilled in as the easy favorites in the division are over. The aura is gone. When receivers use to go over the middle, they had to worry about guys like Bruschi underneath and Harrison over the top. Dirty or not, those guys brought fear. They made plays. They sold out for the team. What do you have now? Overpriced system guys like Adalius thomas that just don't fit. You have no edge rushers and you have no real run stoppers beside wilfork.

On offense, there is no one left in the backfield that can hurt you. Taylor is done. Maroney just isnt very good. Morris is a complete mediocrity at best. Which brings us to the line. They are old and getting older. I saw some pretty serious protection issues on sunday and you cant scheme your way out of being physically overmatched.

Brady is still brady. Belichick is still belichick and Kraft still has money that he will spend. At the same time, they need a really good draft and a couple of really solid signings and/or trades to contend. And even that may not be enough in a division that is only going to be tougher next year.

ateamstupid 01-13-2010 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
I dont see the Jets defense as "great". I think its good but hardly great. Great defenses don't get gashed on the ground like the jets have been more than once this year.

I realize their ranking but stats lie all the time. They do have the best CB in the league hands down and his ability to take away an entire side of the field allows them to mask alot of their problems. He is the best I have seen since Deion. Certainly better than Champ even in his best days. They have a ton of good linebackers but their d line is weak especially without jenkins.

I think with a rookie QB and a first year coach, anything from here on out is gravy. The year has to be viewed as very successful and the AFC east will be wide open next year.

I agree with most of what you say, but I don't think you realize how big of a loss Jenkins was, and they're still #1 in nearly every overall measurable. They're one edge rusher and perhaps a safety away from being truly elite. You underestimate the D-Line, which has stepped up its play in a big way since Jenk went down. Benson gashed them, but it was mostly due to missed tackles, it's not as if the Bengals were getting great push.

Cannon Shell 01-13-2010 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
You don't get it. Jet fans aren't gonna be torn up if we get killed on Sunday. The AFC East is ours to lose starting next year. You can't honestly think the Dolphins look as good for the near future as the Jets. Your fat douche HC just had to fire his defensive coordinator FFS. Get a clue and worry about your own crappy team.

Typical classy Jet fan response.

Cannon Shell 01-13-2010 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
teams with defense's as great as the Jets are not frauds or "mirage". But you know that..

Give me a break. When they actually win something other than a backdoor wildcard spot and game against the Bengals....

Lets not forget they are only in the playoffs because the Colts went into shutdown mode after 18 torched that great defense in a 3 minute TD drive.

Funny that great defense couldnt hold that crappy Miami team under 30 points....twice...

ateamstupid 01-13-2010 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Give me a break. When they actually win something other than a backdoor wildcard spot and game against the Bengals....

Lets not forget they are only in the playoffs because the Colts went into shutdown mode after 18 torched that great defense in a 3 minute TD drive.

Funny that great defense couldnt hold that crappy Miami team under 30 points....twice...

The defense gave up 30 points in the second game? Really? Glad to see you don't actually watch the games as I figured.

And you're wrong. We're also in the playoffs because your garbage ass team couldn't do anything but get its skull kicked in at home ... twice ... in the last two weeks.

randallscott35 01-13-2010 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Give me a break. When they actually win something other than a backdoor wildcard spot and game against the Bengals....

Lets not forget they are only in the playoffs because the Colts went into shutdown mode after 18 torched that great defense in a 3 minute TD drive.

Funny that great defense couldnt hold that crappy Miami team under 30 points....twice...

That is the past. Don't live in the past. Marino retired. "Laces out!"

Cannon Shell 01-13-2010 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
The defense gave up 30 points in the second game? Really? Glad to see you don't actually watch the games as I figured.

And you're wrong. We're also in the playoffs because your garbage ass team couldn't do anything but get its skull kicked in at home ... twice ... in the last two weeks.

LOL. I forgot your sorry ass special teams couldnt contain self check Ginn!! Miami had depth issues and simply couldn't replace their valuable injured players but after another strong draft and a couple of key FA signings the Tuna will have us ready for the big run next year.

You may be an obnoxious Jets fans which puts you about stage three on a Charles Darwin chart but at least you arent like those soft SEC fans that root for their rivals...

ateamstupid 01-13-2010 01:56 PM

You believe in evolution???


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