Do you think you could find me a five day stretch this year where Johnny or Edgar only won one race?

These guys are hysterical. First one of em(who I thought was better than this) decides to start a thread last week about garrett gomez being the leader rider. So apparently this person thought that stat meant something!!! Other wise why start the thread? Now its all different, now that he is in sixth after a very bad stretch "that stat is misleading". Honestly, you can't have it both ways guys. It either means something or it doesnt. Ok boys, if you think riding one winner in 5 racing days with those mounts is okie-dokie, your standards are quite low.

First of all, i dont think he is as good as Johnny V or Edgar. But that isnt saying a lot because i dont think anyone is right now. Is that your basis of comparison? If he isnt as good as the best two than he sucks? Thats tough.

Gomez is trying a new circuit. He will slump more than JV or Edgar because he doesnt have the relationships that those guys do. All things considered i think Gomez is doing better than expected. He is certainly doing better than YOU predicted.

No he isn't. hes in sixth place, and I thought he would finish the meet in third place!!!!!! hes riding piss poor lately!! You see Granny Fanny or Milwaukee? Hes inconsistent, just like I have always said. Who the hell goes from tied or leading rider to sixth place in 6 days!!!!!!!?????? Hes the only guy I know who could accomplish that.

There are a TON of guys that were available to Ron Anderson. Thats my point. Why did ANDERSON choose GOMEZ?

Again, you know why. Come on. As in the game as you are (didnt you pick out a grade 1 winner?) you know how much tougher it is for a rider to stay consistent at a new circuit. To compound matters, he openly stated that he would probably go back west after the meet.

He is two winners away from second place and one winner away from third. He is riding at a 17% clip for the meet and has won over a million dollars there. Not too shabby at the toughest meet in the country.

Garrett was getting the top mounts all Winter on the West Coast.What other guy (who was already getting the top mounts on a major circuit) was available?

Those guys fire their agents all the time. All the time! Was Bailey "available" when he started working with Anderson? Anderson does the choosing not the other way around.

The only two guys that wouldnt have listened are probably Johnny V and Prado.

Did you like the way Gomez schooled those other jocks today with his 3 wins. I think he's back in 2nd place now.

He rode well today, thats for sure. He has days of brilliance, no doubt.


In all fairness....a trained chimp could have won on Wait A While today.

Kev,
I'm not writing him off either. Guess who was in the irons on Stevie Ray Gone?
I just wish he'd ride more consistantly.
Somebody said there's a big difference between a rider who reads the form and a "reflex rider" that responds to things once they happen.
If he put BOTH styles together he'd be a great.

She was much the best but he still rode her perfectly.

yes he did....but did it take alot to ride her perfectly where she was that much the best?

It still took just as much to ride her perfectly. But when you have the best horse like that, you don't need to ride the horse perfectly to win. In other words, even if he would have dropped back too far or even if he would have been too close the pace, he would have probably still won. So the horse would have won even if he didn't give a great ride, but it turns out he did give a great ride.

The really smart thing that he did was when they passed the stands the first time. He let the horse outside of him have the lead and then he quickly got off the rail and went outside of her. That was the proper thing to do.

Fair enough....God knows you guys that have been watching races longer than me know tons more than I do.

People face it, the east coasters cant stand that a west coast boy is coming into their back yard and is handing it to them. Just think how much better he will be next year.

Oracle = CLOWN

You have no bearing on this subject after Gomez's 3 winners, AGAIN!!!!:p

Wake me up when hes leading rider here!! LOL!!!

I sense you are starting to understand the percentages:eek:

Edgar S. Prado 117 24 17 16 21 49 $1,271,803
Garrett K. Gomez 100 19 16 18 19 53 $1,134,743
John R. Velazquez 106 18 17 17 17 49 $1,029,284
Cornelio H. Velasquez 126 18 15 18 14 40 $979,157
Rafael Bejarano 107 18 13 11 17 39 $910,534
Eibar Coa 109 18 9 16 17 39 $1,125,487
Julien R. Leparoux 107 14 15 12 13 38 $772,244
Javier Castellano 92 14 10 9 15 36 $1,077,434
Kent J. Desormeaux 98 10 11 15 10 37 $609,350

Thats just a little bit of a cop out. He is now tied for second, he leads in percentage and he is third in money. Is he still getting "schooled"?

Dont let me find out that Garrett Gomez is second to only Edgar Prado for leading rider at Saratoga through Monday's card. Dont let me find out that Gomez is beating none other than John Velasquez by two wins. Dont let me find out that he is winning at a 19% clip while the great Johnny V is hovering at around 13%.

Boy...Garrett sure is getting schooled in New York. LOL

I promise that I will do my best to not let you find out these things.

could someone post a 'do not resuscitate' sign on these gogo threads???

Gomez has looked pretty good on chalk today. That ride on battle chant was beautiful.

We are through 4 days of racing and 5 races on day five and Johnny V still hasnt won a race. He sure is schooling Garrett right now.

Alas, Johnny has the call on Pletcher chalk in the next three races.

Gomez already has 3 wins today and the day isn't over it.

What's so funny is that when Oracle kept ranting about how bad Gomez was about a couple of months ago, a couple of the other posters were so gullible that they suggested that it may be a good idea to just toss every horse Gomez is on because he is so bad. It was one of the funniest things I've ever heard. Gomez is probably the best jockey in the country. He is so good that horses will often improve several lengths for him. He gets more run out of horses than anyone. So you have a guy who is probably the best jockey in the country and some of these posters thought that you should throw out of all of his horses becuase he is so bad. That would almost be like saying that the US Ryder Cup team has no chance because Tiger Woods is so bad.

I wish he would have gotten #4 on Tahoe Warrior.

I backed that one, and thought that he would go to the front and stay.

I guess I was half-right....he went to the front

Looks Pretty Good Today!

At this point, would it be appropriate to start referring to Gomez as "the King of Saratoga".

just wondering.

Did you hear Kenny Mayne be like "Gomez's 4th win today"

The first thing I thought of was Oracle and the 2nd thing I thought of "Is Kenny Maybe reading the board and DIGGING at Oracle"

lmfao

Gomez was money in that race, great ride and positioning at the time it counts, on the stretch on the turf

I'm going to call ESPN and tell them to reprimand Kenny Mayne. He shouldn't be intentionally needling Oracle like that. It's not right.