I edited it. go see the 3rd link. Riot you are sadly uninformed. I mean that in the most respectful and politically correct way.

I suppose I could point out that the broadly-applied and generalized provisions quoted in the YouTube link do not apply to individuals, and are not as cut and dried nor mean exactly what is implied on the YouTube link, but I guess that would expose my being sadly uninformed.

Facts tend to do that to you :(

Always with the Bush-blaming.....

There, I saved Chuck 15 seconds of his night.

We can have a poll and see who other posters want to leave. Me or you. Loser is perma-banned.

I don't understand why some people are so freaked out about some of the terrorists being tried in civilian court in NY, especially when they have already plead guilty. It's what was done in the first Trade Center terrorist attack.

And it is a myth about jail time if you have no insurance. Technically you could go to jail if you don't pay the tax for not having health insurance. But since only 100 cases are brought to trial each year, that isn't likely to happen. Unless the government starts getting aggressive and goes after these people. But that won't happen because the government cares about our rights.

Nothing that O'Dumbass does anymore suprises me. Hopefully him and the Majority Bitch Pelosi are gone in 2012.

President Obama: ****. I know ****'s bad right now, with all that starving bullshit, and the dust storms, and we are running out of french fries and burrito coverings. But I got a solution.
South Carolina Representative # 1: That's what you said last time, dipshit!
South Carolina Representative # 2: Yeah, I got a solution, you're a dick! South Carolina, what's up!

Frightening that this sorta happened.

It's like if you say "bitch" "bastard" and "dumbass" enough, you'll start magically making a point one of these days -- at least a point besides the fact that your vocabulary is off the hook.

Trust me vocabulary isn't limited to certain words. Lets just thats what I think of the Pres and Majority Speaker of the House. Which im thinking you might disagree with my opinion of them. Thats ok though this is America not Iran, Iraq, or Russia. We have freedom of speech unlike the previously mentioned places. I am proud to say that I am an American but frustrated with the incompetent imdeciles who are ruining this great country of ours.

I do disagree for the most part, but that's hardly what drives my comment. I may think Chuck is crazy, but at least he offers some criticism, whether I think it's reasonable or not.

All I can gather every time you post is basically: Obama is a dumbass look I made a name for him, COLA INCREASE, God Pelosi is such a bitch, did I mention Obama is a dumbass, COLA!, Pelosi's a bitch, what a bastard, dumbass, dumb broad bitch, bastard, COLA!, ps Pelosi is a bitch.

Then again, there's a good chance you could get into politics on your side with that kind of critical thinking, so maybe there's a silver lining.

Though, the good old "free speech" thing was a nice touch, as if I was suggesting otherwise?

Whoever is running the show will p!ss off at least half the country.

if anyone deserves the death penalty it's that monster of a woman whose 5 year old daughter was just found dead in n.c. she gave the girl to a guy-he is on surveillance cameras carrying the girl into a motel. apparently she prostituted her own daughter. words cannot describe how disgusted i am about this story.

i'm no proponent of the death penalty. i recommend anyone who can to read leonard pitts' article about the death penalty after the d.c. sniper was given an injection last week. it mirrors my sentiments. on one level, i don't think the state should be in the business of killing its citizens.

on a more visceral level, at times i think 'kill the bastard'. hell, there've been times where i thought i'd even volunteer to pull the switch, push in the plunger....

true. problem is, obama imo doesn't want to piss off everyone. but we all know what happens when you try to please everyone. we need a leader-he doesn't seem to be one. if anything, he should be on the lecture circuit giving uplifting speeches. there are doers, and there are teachers. he's a teacher.

You said it all better than I could. It's not that I don't 100000% understand the concept, and catch myself thinking that at times because it's a very sort of gut reaction that honestly makes a lot of sense -- but as you said, the idea that the govt. is in the business of killing people as punishment just seems backwards to me, and wrong.

Blaming Bush for something he didnt do...

about 10 seconds saved

Those people were captured in the US and held under standard civilian control. These rats were captured in a foreign country and were not under civilian control. Therefore some enterprising, scumbag laywer will do his damndest to get them off on a technicality or procedural error. Or they may take the tactic from that first trial and expose classified information to the public to try to pressure the prosecutors. These scumbags arent Americans, were not caught here and do not deserve the rights reserved for US citizens.

Not to mention the massive traffic and safety issues associated with transporting and holding this vile scum in a place like Manhattan.

I am not sure why the USA is supposed to give a damn about the rest of the worlds views of how we deal with terrorists. Surely the Russians or Chinese would not complain.

The govt seems to be in the business of doing everything else.

Whoops, yes, you're right - that wasn't HW Bush, that happened a month after him into Clinton presidency, it was on Clinton's watch.

it's always the details w/you...

Because they arent citizens.....they should be tried in a military court , they should not be given the same rights as say a regular killer. Just because it all happened at two buildings doesnt make it any diffirent than when The Japs bombed Pearl Harbor. What we should have done and our mistake was to not just drop some bombs in Saudi Arabia , Iran, Iraq , Afghanistan, Pakistan and any other sand flea infested country that had anything to do with it .

I far prefer them framed and tried as the common, despicable, criminal murderers they are, rather than elevated as important military war heros for jihad.

Edit: the ultimate, eternal insult will be to not let them die "war martyrs."

the republican's think it's politically expedient to pretend we're just too delicate a nation to handle this. i swear to god watching these guys frill their skirts while crying that we shouldn't let the mean old terrorists come to our highest security prisons makes me laugh.

when did they become such p*ssy's? when did they decide the rest of were too?

How do you feel about information extraction methods? Do you agree with torture?

Johnnie Cochran would get these guys acquitted. Let the circus begin.

its funny this is a republican issue since democrats including the Gov of NY doesnt like this idea either.

They have already plead guilty.

yeah but it was under duress of illegal methods will say the defense lawyer. Not to mention the insanely stupid quotes by Obama saying that he was "confident" that they will be found guilty and be executed before the trail even begins. Kind of defeats the "we are gonna show the world how fair we are" theory.

I dont feel one way or the other about .....Im not in the "get information out of the bad guy " business , if I were I wouldnt give them ice cream and ask them please tell me something, that is for sure.

Here's the thing , they have made it their mission to destroy what you want afforded to them . The mission was to kill as many Americans as they could , destroy our way of life (which includes the liberty of having civilian court) , to disrupt our government and create chaos.
They have and did call this war against the infidels , they chose to be at war with us so in my thinking they are war criminals and they need to be tried in a military court not afforded the same rights as everyone else. They dont believe in our system of government or the way we live as Americans so why should we treat them that way . They are going to be martrys no matter what.

They were not in uniform. No Geneva Convention privileges apply. They could (and should) have been legally executed on the battlefield. Obama's silver tongue seems to be getting a little tarnished. He keeps putting his foot in it. Maybe he's been hanging out with Biden too much!

Interesting. You want to tri them under the rules of war but you don't want to give them the same rights that the geneva convention would provide. I am not saying one way or the other is right but it would seem that it should be one way or the other. No?

This is completely inaccurate.

according to geneva convention rules, they are being held appropriately from what i've read. geneva does not grant foreign soldiers civilian trials.

I wasnt saying that. I was responding to his statement that geneva convention rules do not apply. That is the part that is not accurate.

And Snyder does suck!

This country should of taken of the above countries long time ago. Maybe there would less terrorists roaming around the world. Just maybe 9-11 would not of happened. I would go back on active duty if I was able to go on a ship that is bombing one of those wannabe countries. Im thinking North Korea should be added to the list.

i wasn't disagreeing with you, but was adding to what you had posted.

and yeah, he does!

No.

You have been spending too much time handicapping