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JerseyJ 06-17-2009 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
He trailed the allowance field you reference all the way around the track. Sure, it was a respectable field but he never fired an in fact picked up his 7th consecutive defeat against N1X company in that loss.

Beating White Holiday and any of the other stiffs in that race today at Delaware is not a feather in Nicanor's cap. The thing is, he proved he was a good horse with a couple of good efforts at Gulfstream and the huge turf debut. I just don't see how anyone could have watched his race today and become any more certain that he's a graded stakes caliber horse.

NT

I think it was a solid race...he set a legitimate pace while stretching out, and I think had more in reserve if Napravnik had needed to go to it. He wasn't all out today. She shook him up at the top of the stretch, he quickened, and then she just hand rode him to the wire with something left in the tank. I think he got what he needed to out of the race and look for him to be even fitter coming out of this race.

Coach Pants 06-17-2009 10:47 PM

Meh. It was a public workout. That field was absolutely abysmal.

This was much more entertaining...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMqsFTUy64I

declansharbor 06-17-2009 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JerseyJ
Please, I would take Nicanor at any distance on any surface over any conditions at any price against that overrated sluggish mediocrity.

I'm thinking POTN would absolutely inhale him at the top of the stretch, in a move similiar to Michael Irvin and his pocket contents.

I think he's as much a bet against when he steps up to stakes calibur horses as he was in his debut, although he won't be favored.

JerseyJ 06-18-2009 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
I'm thinking POTN would absolutely inhale him at the top of the stretch, in a move similiar to Michael Irvin and his pocket contents.

I think he's as much a bet against when he steps up to stakes calibur horses as he was in his debut, although he won't be favored.

Pioneerofthe Nile can't and will not be inhaling anything...

geeker2 06-18-2009 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JerseyJ
Pioneerofthe Nile can't and will not be inhaling anything...unless he is transfered to the Mullins's Barn



FTFY

Rudeboyelvis 06-18-2009 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Meh. It was a public workout. That field was absolutely abysmal.

This was much more entertaining...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMqsFTUy64I

He needs some basement remodeling tips from Warren T

Merlinsky 06-18-2009 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JerseyJ
Pioneerofthe Nile can't and will not be inhaling anything...

Just give him a little Air Power. He'll be fine. :p

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Originally Posted by JerseyJ
I think it was a solid race...he set a legitimate pace while stretching out, and I think had more in reserve if Napravnik had needed to go to it. He wasn't all out today. She shook him up at the top of the stretch, he quickened, and then she just hand rode him to the wire with something left in the tank. I think he got what he needed to out of the race and look for him to be even fitter coming out of this race.

Yeah I liked it. I thought he looked like he's maturing nicely when I watched him after the finish. I like that the Youtube clip doesn't just show the race and that's it. In the stretch, he looked to me like if there was a need, he could've kicked in a bit more. What are Rosie's prospects of staying on him should he make the VA Derby? I know she hasn't lost on him, but that doesn't always mean you stay on right?

ETA: I should say I'm not anti-Rosie. I just see bigger races lead to jockey changes sometimes. Since she's the only one who's actually won on him, I'd say it's grounds to let her keep going. She won the Maryland Million right? Nic might get her some more attention.


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