I wonder if his bringing a syring to the D-barn could have prevented IWR from even running. He got caught over the Bay Shore colt but did he have one there for IWR too?
Could the stewards just said that as "the trainer of IWR has an illegal substance and delivery method" we must scratch all his horses.

New York stewards scratched Gato Go Win from the Bay Shore Stakes (G2) on Saturday at Aqueduct after security personnel said they saw trainer Jeff Mullins attempting to administer a substance to the colt before the race.


If the first post is accurate,
you got a guy thumbing his nose
in such a blatant manner before some big races.

It really is shocking anyone could be that
stupid or that desperate.

So you maybe you are right, given the totally outrageous/
oblivious behavior.

I thought the same thing..

If he was caught red handed, I would imagine he may face criminal charges. It is a crime to attempt to tamper with a pari-mutual contest in New York State.

Maybe Mullins had a little cold/cough and the air power is the only thing that works for him. He ha s it carefully dosed in the syringe. Thats a plausable/believable defence, right?

:tro:

Should have been.

Didn't we basically foreshadow this yesterday, without even knowing it? What if this piece of sh1t had tried this in the Kentucky Derby instead of the Bay Shore? Imagine the backlash from the media would have been. He's already publically shamed the game with his ridiculous comments to the LA Times.

At least I am 99% sure I didn't get beat in the last at Keeneland yesterday by a cheat. By the way, my friend was in the winner's circle for that race, she used to work for Seitz. LOL

It's been threatened in many incidents and then hasn't been part of final penalty agreements.

After an investigation and if the facts prove true NYRA should ban Mullins for a lengthly period if not life. I suspect other states will give a look as well. This is the correct time to clean the game if it is to survive.

Greg Martin (training for IEAH :rolleyes: ) was prosecuted for his role in the A One Rocket milkshaking. Got a fine, probation, and home confinement.

Got ya, but it is brought up in the initial phases of any incident. I think it doesn't get pressed because it's akin to proving conspiracy which is very difficult. If it didn't get used in the Greg Martin/IEAH horse case, I imagine it will never be used.

The company’s website states that Air Power will stop a horse’s cough all day and “that nothing manufactured and sold by Finish Line will test positive in any race or show jurisdiction.


i wonder if that should include an * with fine print saying something about they can't guarantee the syringe is invisible.

this is an "oral dose syringe" , not a needle, right?

got to be oral...

from the www.thoroughbredtimes.com

"Like Dutrow, Mullins is no stranger to rules violations. In spring 2008, he served a 20-day suspension from the California Horse Racing Board for use of the Class 2 drug mepivicane, and at least one of his horses tested positive for excessive levels of total carbon dioxide in 2005. In the aftermath of his troubles in 2005, Mullins lashed out against the industry and was quoted in the Los Angeles Times as having attributed his troubles to horseplayers “crying about losing a $2 bet.

“If you bet on horses, I would call you an idiot,” the Times quoted the trainer as saying.

Mullins had another total carbon dioxide violation in summer 2008.

Mahoney said that Mullins’s presence in the detention barn itself was not a violation. He added that any attempt to administer something to a horse and possession of a syringe would be violations."

I don't remember anything shady being defended. either it wasn't shady or it wasn't defended.

as for Facts.. Mullins has nothing but contempt for the betting public. (and the rules) if these allegations are true, I think he deserves a severe judgement at least as bad as Patrick Biancone.

I think having anything in the D-Barns other than your pale and sponge is not acceptable. Not sure of all the rules.

As an upside it was great to get to Aqueduct on Saturday after so many years and making the trip with one of my favorite people and seeing so many folks I don't always get to see and got to witness some pretty good racing I had a great time.

Despite the shroud over IEAH they do have talent for acquiring several graded
winners in a short time. There seems to be the semblance of good team work hear. We will see.

If the whole game goes to hell I'll move my tack to the QVC Network and produce the weekly "spanks" hours. Then we'll see how long it takes me to go bad.:eek:

They must have cameras in the detention barn right?

youtube baby !!! :D

I remember on a hot Saratoga day, being told by security that i could not be drinking Gatorade in the detention barn. No problem. But what about that coke machine selling all kinds of pop over there, he didn't have an answer for that:zz:

I hope I Want Revenge wins the Derby by 10, and the Triple Crown, its just to perfect a story with this in the mix.

How is it that now perps get to negotiate their penalties? And we wonder what's wrong?

A friend of mine got grilled in the detention barn about the use of VetWrap. I guess the guard was new and had no idea what it was for and she had to show him. She should have wrapped it around his head.

Good times indeed. The Big A is one of my favorite tracks. I am very curious about this situation. I imagine that they could have prevented IWR from running.
Sale agreement says Lanzman call the shots on who trains the colt unless he runs off the board in several consecutive races. Now I wonder if the puplic outcry will force a change and if Dutrow (another beauty) will have him by week's end?

Oh, what time is the Spanx hour?

You've caught one of our most famous SoCal cheater trainers. He's not at home (where he can just pay a fine, and spend a month with his kids.) He's been caught alkalizing twice(he's a crook who has gotten breaks from corrupt people.) Now he is caught taking a product with him into the detention barn. I'm just guessing he gets away with that out here. That's 3 times. Send him( with his Corona Beer n Lime) back to Utah, Arizona, or Idaho.

The syringe was prolly his , not kidding or joking .

It has, but here is the thing about prosecutions. A story about a trainer at Aqueduct bringing a syringe into a detention barn does not attract much attention from a DA's Office. However, when that trainer runs what looks to be the Kentucky Derby morning line favorite a few races later, that is something that could make headlines and hence, a name for that prosecutor. This could get a lot more scrutiny than the average trainer being caught.

Now that would effect handle too much, why would they do that?

so, that's three stories in the last few days about the bad guys in the sport. that's just grand. i'm so glad we have such paragons of virtue as ernie paragallo and jeff mullins to give racing a couple of black eyes heading into this years derby, the time when the press pays the most attention to horse racing.
gotta love the quote from iavarone-'it's not performance enhancing'. oh, ok. guess they should have let the horse run. :rolleyes:

Maybe I'm in the minority but I'm not shocked. I see Dutrow & Big Brown mentioned in this thread, yet you rarely hear of Asmussen and Curlin. Regardless it always seems to be the same usual suspects, however using common sense I would say they are certainly not the only ones.

Thought it interesting the owners were part of selling the greatest horse ever

The Green Monkey

On the sales scene, Hartley/De Renzo has been one of America's most successful pinhooking operations for more than 15 years and they continue to participate actively in that segment of the industry. Outstanding racehorses sold by Hartley/De Renzo include champions Silver Charm and Xtra Heat. Their agency also consigned the world-record $16-million juvenile The Green Monkey at the 2006 Fasig-Tipton Calder sale of selected two-year-olds in training.

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/sta...farm_no=162907

Are you suggesting The Green Monkey's performance at the sale was not on the up and up ?

Despite his troubled trip in Saturday’s 85th running of the Grade 1, nine-furlong Wood Memorial, IEAH Stables and David J. Lanzman’s I Want Revenge was feeling no ill-effects on Sunday morning.

“He came out the race real well,” said trainer Jeff Mullins, sipping a Red Bull outside of trainer Tony Dutrow’s barn at Aqueduct Racetrack. “We had him out this morning, went over him from head to toe, and everything looks good.” ie no visible needle marks

http://www.nyra.com/aqueduct/stories...04052009.shtml

The Detenion Barn
 

How does a major track setup a detenion barn and then allow a trainer in there?

How does that happen , how did he even get in there? Where was security?

Trainers are allowed in the detention barn. As are the assistants and/or grooms that stay with the horse the whole 6 hours. The horses aren't in solitary confinement. Horses get walked, etc.

steve - this is defeating the purpose , can't nyra have it's own in house people walk these horse around for the 7 hrs

No one s/b allowed in the detention barn from the connections , its defeating the purposes or at the very least can't NYRA put a screener in place just like at the airport - how mullins is able to get in there with what he had is just a disater

And when said horse flips over... does NYRA want the lawsuit? Heck no...