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peetsa 01-29-2009 02:34 AM

1) GRAND HOMBRE (alt: Fateh Field)

2) BRAVE TIN SOLDIER (alt: Conquest)

3) SOUND THE DRUM (alt: New Freedom)

4) BENNIE BLUE (alt: Clasp)

5) SANBUCH (alt: Young Mick)

6) WITH INTEREST (alt: Third Set)

7) STEPPING UP BEST BET (alt: Furnace)

viscount26 01-29-2009 07:03 AM

1. Shopton Lane

2. Lessing

3. Wingbeat

4. Irish Mayhem Nap

5. Sanbuch

6. Kirklees

7. River Tiber

G/L all

Linny 01-29-2009 08:18 AM

Race 1
Art of War (Aamaaq)
Finicius (Pointing North)
Saansaa (Wingbeat)
Clasp (Sgt. Schultz)
Bon Spiel (Far From OLd)
With Interest (Silver Mist)
Akua'ba (Banknote)

PatCummings 01-29-2009 08:45 AM

Hey gang - I'm the one who runs DubaiRaceNight.com that NTamm referenced earlier. Not a whole lot of the racing boards follow to Dubai, so I'm glad to see you guys are into it.

Whether I can start with the contest here or not is up to you - but anyway...

Shopton Lane (Art of War)
Mojito Royale (Yamal)
Wingbeat (Sarissa)
Irish Mayhem (Bennie Blue)
Sanbuch (Bon Spiel)
Oracle West (Kirklees)
Perfect Season (Akua'Ba)

I'm surprised so many of you like Aamaaq - if he was going to win a race at the Carnival, I thought it was going to be last week when he was second to Glen Nevis in a race that still has me scratching my head. If you watch the replay, you'll see Glen Nevis was literally under a full drive the entire race. Maybe I'm wrong....

Good luck to all!

brockguy 01-29-2009 09:14 AM

Welcome aboard Pat, and of course youre included in the Contest. The more the merrier. Your site is fantastic, alot of very useful stuff there. Im particularly interested in seeing what your top 3 things to do in Dubai are (Surely skiing will be one of them??).

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-29-2009 09:19 AM

wow grand hombre ..9 year old..

Linny 01-29-2009 09:28 AM

In race 3 that should be Sarissa, not Saansaa, I misread my notes...

PatCummings 01-29-2009 09:34 AM

Shopton Lane was NOT happy with the kickback, he never looked comfortable. It was funny to hear Doug Watson after the Fares victory - basically, he was shocked.

I had a whopping $2 to place on Grand Hombre just to cover myself because of the price and his recent form which was decent...per my race analysis...

"His last race on dirt, a handicap at Nad al Sheba on January 1, 2009, wasn’t terrible and the winner that day, Brave Tin Soldier, came back to finish a good second in a 100+ rated handicap on January 15."

Good luck.

herkhorse 01-29-2009 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
wow grand hombre ..9 year old..

too bad it's Dubai, 60-1 over 40-1

COMPLETED: 81663104083020 DUB #1 $1 Exacta 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,9,10,11,WT,8 <none> $ 10.00 $ 651.20 + $ 641.20

NoChanceToDance 01-29-2009 09:55 AM

Well, the form has been shot to bits in the first two races. Richard Hills wasn't great (as can be expected on dirt) on Tasteyville in the first. He seemed to go across the line looking a bit lame? He is definitley one to keep the right side of now that he has blown the cobwebs out.

NoChanceToDance 01-29-2009 10:20 AM

We might as well throw the form books out. Usually you want to be up with the pace on the dirt, but so far the horses finishing off best have all come from a long way back.

PatCummings 01-29-2009 10:27 AM

The sprints are all a bit different though, where I think the gate draw is most important, anything from the middle to the outer rail is best, and I truly believe the outer is the best. Big City Man was good enough last week to run lively down the center, but Change Alley's late kick on the outer rail holds up to what I've come to expect.

NoChanceToDance 01-29-2009 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatCummings
The sprints are all a bit different though, where I think the gate draw is most important, anything from the middle to the outer rail is best, and I truly believe the outer is the best. Big City Man was good enough last week to run lively down the center, but Change Alley's late kick on the outer rail holds up to what I've come to expect.

All the jocks I know who ride there every winter say you're best of to be up with the pace on the dirt, as it's usually hard to make it the distance up. The results so far, have been very strange.

Not sure about anyone else, but I couldn't have had any of the winners so far

PatCummings 01-29-2009 11:15 AM

I think that's definitely true with the routes, although Grand Hombre's monster run int he first was quite odd, as was Glen Nevis last week.

The form during the Winter Racing Challenge was all favoring early speed on the dirt. It's been a bit different at the Carnival.

I have one placing from my four top picks on the day. It's been a rough go so far!

NoChanceToDance 01-29-2009 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatCummings
I think that's definitely true with the routes, although Grand Hombre's monster run int he first was quite odd, as was Glen Nevis last week.

The form during the Winter Racing Challenge was all favoring early speed on the dirt. It's been a bit different at the Carnival.

I have one placing from my four top picks on the day. It's been a rough go so far!

It seems as though if you miss the break from a low draw, you have no chance, but if you hold up towards the outside you have an outstanding chance. Usually (like I have said) I like seeing horses up with the pace on the dirt as they usually keep finding, but not today.

Maybe the recent rain they have had has made a slight difference to the bias on the dirt track.

Hoping for much better with Far From Old who was slightly unlucky last time and hopefully they go a good gallop today.

NoChanceToDance 01-29-2009 11:25 AM

No gallop again there. Far From Old stayed on late once again, he needs a much better gallop to be at his best.

I did like Age Of Reason, but sadly not as much as I liked Far From Old

TheSpyder 01-29-2009 11:29 AM

Trying to pick these horses by a novice llike me is:zz: :zz: :zz:

NoChanceToDance 01-29-2009 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSpyder
Trying to pick these horses by a novice llike me is:zz: :zz: :zz:

I wouldn't worry. I follow the racing in Dubai very closely every year and today has been terrible. Form books thrown away, dirt racing favouring horses off the pace and turf races being run at muddling gallops.

Trying to figure out what is going to be on the pace is hard enough, finding a winner is almost impossible.

my miss storm cat 01-29-2009 12:01 PM

A little late but just going through results and thank you, Dynamic Saint!

Cheers to Mr. Watson, esquire. :) :tro:

NoChanceToDance 01-29-2009 12:10 PM

Apologies if I'm wrong, but I think MMSC is the only one to have had a winner so far. Well done, it's been very very tricky today.

brockguy 01-31-2009 06:25 AM

Results after Day 3. Welcome to the new players, it was a tough week last week with a few shock results but I feel you always need a week like that, to get you out of auto pilot and start thinking outside the box. Anyway, these scores were easy enough to do this week!



Position Name This Weeks Score Running Total

1. Viscount26 -80 -28.75
2. My Miss Storm Cat +0 -35
3. Stickhorse, 0 -70
4. Pat Cummings -70 -70
5. No Chance To Dance -80 -80
6. Peetsa -80 -80
7. Hickory Hill Hoff -80 -119.66
8. Jaripeo, -80 -128.41
9. Brockguy -80 -146.25
10. Linny, -80 -175.91


Remember as well that there are 2 nights in the racing carnival next week - Thursday and Friday.

Hickory Hill Hoff 01-31-2009 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brockguy
Results after Day 3. Welcome to the new players, it was a tough week last week with a few shock results but I feel you always need a week like that, to get you out of auto pilot and start thinking outside the box. Anyway, these scores were easy enough to do this week!



Position Name This Weeks Score Running Total

1. Viscount26 -80 -28.75
2. My Miss Storm Cat +0 -35
3. Stickhorse, 0 -70
4. Pat Cummings -70 -70
5. No Chance To Dance -80 -80
6. Peetsa -80 -80
7. Hickory Hill Hoff -80 -119.66
8. Jaripeo, -80 -128.41
9. Brockguy -80 -146.25
10. Linny, -80 -175.91


Remember as well that there are 2 nights in the racing carnival next week - Thursday and Friday.

Ouch! :eek: tough week

Hickory Hill Hoff 02-03-2009 07:22 PM

Dubai entries- Thursday 2/5

http://dubairacingcarnival.net/Dubai%202.5.09.pdf

PatCummings 02-04-2009 01:28 AM

I posted my analysis and selections...good luck!

http://dubairacenight.com/dubai-raci...-night-4-dirc/

PatCummings 02-04-2009 03:06 PM

Not sure if you guys do the Arabian race...if so...

Race 1 - #8 NESNAAS (#6 PARIS GAGNER)

Tbreds...

Race 2 - #4 CALMING INFLUENCE (#3 PRINCE SHAUN)
Race 3 - #14 SEA HUNTER (#5 IGUAZU FALLS)
Race 4 - #3 BOUND BY HONOUR (#5 DUELLANT)
Race 5 - #6 DEEM (#2 FRONT HOUSE)
Race 6 - #5 ASIATIC BOY (#3 MY INDY)
Race 7 - #2 IMBONGI (#6 STAR CROWNED)
Race 8 - #1 DESERT LINKS (#8 RED EYE EXPRESS)

Hickory Hill Hoff 02-04-2009 04:42 PM

2nd) CALMING INFLUENCE #4 (alt. 1)
3rd) QUICKSAND #10 (alt. 1)
4th) BOUND BY HONOUR #3 Best Bet (alt. 2)
5th) FRONT HOUSE #2 (alt. 3)
6th) ASIATIC BOY #5 (alt. 6)
7th) HATTA FORT #8 (alt. 1)
8th) CAPTAIN WEBB #9 (alt. 4)

brockguy 02-04-2009 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatCummings
Not sure if you guys do the Arabian race...if so...

Race 1 - #8 NESNAAS (#6 PARIS GAGNER)

Tbreds...

Race 2 - #4 CALMING INFLUENCE (#3 PRINCE SHAUN)
Race 3 - #14 SEA HUNTER (#5 IGUAZU FALLS)
Race 4 - #3 BOUND BY HONOUR (#5 DUELLANT)
Race 5 - #6 DEEM (#2 FRONT HOUSE)
Race 6 - #5 ASIATIC BOY (#3 MY INDY)
Race 7 - #2 IMBONGI (#6 STAR CROWNED)
Race 8 - #1 DESERT LINKS (#8 RED EYE EXPRESS)

Pat, thanks for the selections, we usually select a "Best Bet" or "Nap" that scores double points that week so if you want to select one, by all means go ahead!! oh and we dont include the Arab racing.

NoChanceToDance 02-04-2009 05:28 PM

Just the Tbreds as far as I'm aware.

Race 2 - Glow Star. (Alt - Lions Blood)

Race 3 - Marbush. (Alt - Quicksand)

Race 4 - Bound By Honour (NAP). (Alt - Feared In Flight)

Race 5 - Peace Royale. (Alt - Front House)

Race 6 - Asiatic Boy. (Alt - My Indy)

Race 7 - Star Crowned. (Alt - Intrepid Jack)

Race 8 - Desert Links. (Alt - Red Eye Express)

brockguy 02-04-2009 05:33 PM

good luck this week - its a double header

Race 2 Prince Shaun alt Artimino

Race 3 Charlies Island alt Minted

Race 4 Galactic Star alt Bound By Honour

Race 5 Front House NAP alt Jalmira

Race 6 welcome back Asiatic Boy alt My Indy

Race 7 Star Crowned alt Beaver Patrol

Race 8 Red Eye Express alt Eastern Anthem

PatCummings 02-04-2009 08:14 PM

Thanks gang...

Bound by Honour is definitely my NAP

PatCummings 02-04-2009 08:15 PM

And can I add that your avatars are quite nice!

my miss storm cat 02-04-2009 08:45 PM

Brock I'm rushing through these like a maniac (suicide smilie face here... :p ) and I don't have a NAP. Will try to edit one in later but if not sorry!).

edit - Nevermind. I have one.

R2... Glow Star (no alt)
(Come home safe, gentlemen... King Jock and Yard-Arm:{>: )

R3... Quicksand (no alt)

R4...Duellant - NAP (alt. Pearly King)

R5... Peace Royale (no alt)

R6... My Indy (alt. Asiatic Boy)

R7...Imbongi (alt. Star Crowned)

R8... Fiery Lad :eek: (alt and subject to reversal... :D Desert Links)

Come home safe, everyone and good luck all.

jaripeo 02-05-2009 12:32 AM

Here I VOY::)

Race 2
GRANTLEY ADAMS (TANAASH)
Race 3
SEA HUNTER (TASDEER)
Race 4
WITHOUT A PRAYER (VIA GALILEI)
Race 5
DEEM (AKUA BA) Best Bet
Race 6
DON RENATO (ASIATIC BOY)
Race 7
NARC (IMBONGI)
Race 8
YAHRAB (RED EYE EXPRESS)

peetsa 02-05-2009 03:01 AM

2) Grantley Adams alt: Prince Shaun

3) Underworld alt: Minted

4) Bound By Honor alt: Galactic Star

5) Front House alt: Happy Spirit

6) Glen Nevis alt: My Indy

7) Star Crowned alt: Munaddam

8) Love Galore (Best) alt: Yahrab

viscount26 02-05-2009 07:35 AM

2. Blue Sky Basin

3. Iguazu Falls

4. Without a Prayer

5. Front House

6. Asiatic Boy

7. Imbongi Nap

8. Captain Webb

Linny 02-05-2009 08:06 AM

Yikes, I'm getting killed here.

Race 2
Calming Influence alt Grantley Adams

Race 3
Quicksand alt Skywards

Race 4
Bound by Honour alt Galactic Star

Race 5
Front House alt My Central

Race 6
Asiatic Boy alt Don Renato

Race 7
Star Crowned alt Munaddam

Race 8
Red Eye Express alt Big Robert

NoChanceToDance 02-05-2009 11:21 AM

Great stuff with Deem, Pat. After your selection I had a look at her thinking "she's a dirt horse" and then I saw her pedigree. How on earth was she that good on dirt with that pedigree??

I didn't want to look like a sheep and follow your selection by changing mine, but I did have a nice little bet at 20/1.

Thank you very much.

PatCummings 02-05-2009 11:41 AM

Thanks. I only got her at 6-1 although the UK tote had her at 20s. How did Euros not catch that breeding?

Here's a truly honest story...

I had $38 in my account. Started a pick three singling Deem with Asiatic Boy and My Indy with Narc, Imbongi, Star Crowned, Prince Tamino, Leandros, and Beaver Patrol. Left me with $26 - all of which went on Deem.

In my DubaiRaceNight newsletter, I added that I would love betting Deem at 3-1, let alone her morning line of 8-1.

Hope some others had her too!

NoChanceToDance 02-05-2009 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatCummings
Thanks. I only got her at 6-1 although the UK tote had her at 20s. How did Euros not catch that breeding?

Here's a truly honest story...

I had $38 in my account. Started a pick three singling Deem with Asiatic Boy and My Indy with Narc, Imbongi, Star Crowned, Prince Tamino, Leandros, and Beaver Patrol. Left me with $26 - all of which went on Deem.

In my DubaiRaceNight newsletter, I added that I would love betting Deem at 3-1, let alone her morning line of 8-1.

Hope some others had her too!

On the form I have here, I didn't say she was bred in Ireland, so until I saw you had picked her I didn't look at her properly. Then I saw that turf pedigree.

my miss storm cat 02-05-2009 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatCummings

Race 5 - #6 DEEM (#2 FRONT HOUSE)

That was a really nice pick. Cheers to you and to anyone who had a winner today (going through results really quickily so apologies for not acknowledging anyone who had one).

Thank you My Indy cause aside from you? I sucked. :D

* * *

R1... Miss Gorica (alt. Instant Recall)

R2... Warsaw (no alt)

R3... Jonquil (cause I'm sentimental) (alt. Plavius)

R4... Blue Ksar

R5... Mourilyan (alt. Young Mick)

R6...SOS Brillante (alt. Earth Living)

R7... Russian Sage (Best bet of the day). (alt. T-Bird)


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