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pgardn 11-02-2008 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Late Fires
Phil, where do you come up
with this stuff?
Good Christ.
The QBs in the Big Ten suck,
are in the dark ages, and they don't
go in the first round?
I don't pay any attention to the NFL,
and I don't know who the starting QBs
are, but 4 of the top 30 in the NFL in
passing are from the Big Ten. The only
conferences with more are the Pac 10 and
SEC with 5 each. Know how many are from
your beloved Big 12?






0!!!!





Was that your daughter in the picture, Phil?

Does she have a better sports opinion than
you, Phil?

On the whole they are very bad NOW.
They got a huge number of states to pull from
and they used to get many of the best HS QB's.
Purdue pulled Drew Brees right out from
Texas schools because they had no passing attacks.

When was the last time a Big 10 QB was taken
round one?

What has happened?
A shift has occurred.

pgardn 11-02-2008 06:39 PM

Attachment 1063


Yes.
My daughter says
"dont fck with the Jesus"

Late Fires 11-02-2008 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
On the whole they are very bad NOW.
They got a huge number of states to pull from
and they used to get many of the best HS QB's.
Purdue pulled Drew Brees right out from
Texas schools because they had no passing attacks.

When was the last time a Big 10 QB was taken
round one?

What has happened?
A shift has occurred.

How do they have more states to pull from than any other conference?

The last Big Ten QB I remember getting taken in the first round was Kerry Collins in 95. Why does it matter? In a lot of years, only 1 or 2 QBs are taken in the first round? How many has the Big 12 had in that time? I can't think of one other than Vince Young.

Yes, the Big Ten QBs aren't great this year. Don't you think it's somewhat cyclical? All those QB "stars" in the Big 12 have been starting for 2+ years and play in spread offenses geared towards passing. What is the point?

Mortimer 11-02-2008 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Late Fires
Phil, where do you come up
with this stuff?
Good Christ.
The QBs in the Big Ten suck,
are in the dark ages, and they don't
go in the first round?
I don't pay any attention to the NFL,
and I don't know who the starting QBs
are, but 4 of the top 30 in the NFL in
passing are from the Big Ten. The only
conferences with more are the Pac 10 and
SEC with 5 each. Know how many are from
your beloved Big 12?



0!!!!





Was that your daughter in the picture, Phil?

Does she have a better sports opinion than
you, Phil?




















LateFires.....shame on you.


Th eman has no idea of what he is talking about.


















FINE WORK,THOUGH!!

pgardn 11-02-2008 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Late Fires
How do they have more states to pull from than any other conference?

The last Big Ten QB I remember getting taken in the first round was Kerry Collins in 95. Why does it matter? In a lot of years, only 1 or 2 QBs are taken in the first round? How many has the Big 12 had in that time? I can't think of one other than Vince Young.

Yes, the Big Ten QBs aren't great this year. Don't you think it's somewhat cyclical? All those QB "stars" in the Big 12 have been starting for 2+ years and play in spread offenses geared towards passing. What is the point?

It may very well be cyclical.
So what has happened?

Take a look at the Big 12 rosters of the top teams.
The best players on the teams are from Texas.
Half of the Oklahoma team is Texas.

Oklahoma
OK. St.
Texas Tech
Texas
Texas ATM
Baylor

The entire Big 12 south is Texas.
Missouri, Neb, Kansas, Top players Texas.

Ohio St. is supposed to own Ohio... right?
And they pull Pryor from Penn. and snack on Michigan players.
How does Ohio ST. not win the National Championship every year with all the good HS players in Ohio?

Do other States snag all those good HS players from Cinc. and Clev.?
I have heard they have the best HS football teams in the country.
Just wondering....

Mortimer 11-02-2008 07:08 PM

Phil attacks the BT and their qbs.

He gets disassembled over it .

SSSSSSSSSSSSSO...he ignores that and then goes to Ohio States inability to nab the top Ohio players....even though they do it year in and year out.



This is why he will not do encores.

pgardn 11-02-2008 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortimer
Phil attacks the BT and their qbs.

He gets disassembled over it .

SSSSSSSSSSSSSO...he ignores that and then goes to Ohio States inability to nab the top Ohio players....even though they do it year in and year out.



This is why he will not do encores.

So they do get the top players in the country and fail?

Mortimer 11-02-2008 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
So they do get the top players in the country and fail?


Now we get the top in the country?

I thought we were on Ohio in state recruiting.


Texas has outranked Ohio in recruiting almost every year....so why do they fail even more?

Late Fires 11-02-2008 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
It may very well be cyclical.
So what has happened?

Take a look at the Big 12 rosters of the top teams.
The best players on the teams are from Texas.
Half of the Oklahoma team is Texas.

Oklahoma
OK. St.
Texas Tech
Texas
Texas ATM
Baylor

The entire Big 12 south is Texas.
Missouri, Neb, Kansas, Top players Texas.

Ohio St. is supposed to own Ohio... right?
And they pull Pryor from Penn. and snack on Michigan players.
How does Ohio ST. not win the National Championship every year with all the good HS players in Ohio?

Do other States snag all those good HS players from Cinc. and Clev.?
I have heard they have the best HS football teams in the country.
Just wondering....

Phil, what the hell are you talking about?

Yes, other teams get players from Ohio. It's not the 1980s anymore. All the teams are on TV. The number of scholarships is limited. The talent gets more spread out. What's your point?

Ohio State gets the majority of the best players from Ohio, but Michigan and Penn State get some too. Penn State gets a lot of the best players from Pennsylvania. Michigan and Ohio State get some too. What's the point? Ohio State has been one of the best teams in the country for the past seven years. What is your point?

Are you trying to tell me the Big Ten benefits from having schools in multiple states, like Iowa, Minnesota, Illinois, Indiana, and Wisconsin, which produce little to no good players? What is your point?

Mortimer 11-02-2008 07:16 PM

Phils only point is the one his wife sticks in his buttocks.

Late Fires 11-02-2008 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortimer
Phils only point is the one his wife sticks in his buttocks.

ror!!!!

2-7, Morte. I am officially mad at dem beans.

pgardn 11-02-2008 07:18 PM

Ok fellas.
Listen closely.

I heard/read that Cinn. and Clev. had the best HS talent in the country...
Year to year... factories so to speak.
Lets just cut it down to that since it is difficult to keep up with rest.
Is this wrong?

Or do they choose hockey instead?

Mortimer 11-02-2008 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Late Fires
ror!!!!

2-7, Morte. I am officially mad at dem beans.

Hey--I am,too. You know what I've said. I know what you mean about giving a guy a chance...and they'll have to given how much money they have sunk into him...but honest, did you expect this bad??

Mortimer 11-02-2008 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
Ok fellas.
Listen closely.

I heard/read that Cinn. and Clev. had the best HS talent in the country...
Year to year... factories so to speak.
Lets just cut it down to that since it is difficult to keep up with rest.
Is this wrong?

Or do they choose hockey instead?

Well that's subject change...what?...3?...or 4?




Anyways...I don't know. I didn't say it so what do you want from me?

pgardn 11-02-2008 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortimer
Phils only point is the one his wife sticks in his buttocks.

someone, quickly...

fine work sir
i am behooved

Mortimer 11-02-2008 07:23 PM

You should have never admitted it.

Late Fires 11-02-2008 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortimer
Hey--I am,too. You know what I've said. I know what you mean about giving a guy a chance...and they'll have to given how much money they have sunk into him...but honest, did you expect this bad??

No.

Late Fires 11-02-2008 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
someone, quickly...

fine work sir
i am behooved

Phil, here's the breakdown of NFL players by where they played high school football. California, Texas, Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania all have great high school football. I don't know how you'd determine the best. What's the point?

California: 198
Texas: 173
Florida: 169
Georgia: 84
Ohio: 65
Pennsylvania: 65
Louisiana: 62
Virginia: 56
North Carolina: 53
South Carolina: 49
Mississippi: 47

pgardn 11-02-2008 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortimer
You should have never admitted it.

little yellow trophy???

Mortimer 11-02-2008 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Late Fires
No.

It's really shocking.

I don't know...sometimes you have to cut your losses.There is no way this guy is a Michigan coach. They really ought to ship him and the AD who has caused this mess back to WVa.

Mortimer 11-02-2008 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
little yellow trophy???

And I suppose it was made in Texas?

pgardn 11-02-2008 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Late Fires
Phil, here's the breakdown of NFL players by where they played high school football. California, Texas, Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania all have great high school football. I don't know how you'd determine the best. What's the point?

California: 198
Texas: 173
Florida: 169
Georgia: 84
Ohio: 65
Pennsylvania: 65
Louisiana: 62
Virginia: 56
North Carolina: 53
South Carolina: 49
Mississippi: 47

Very interesting.
Georgia with 84...
Schnikes.
Louisiana 62...

and nothing else to do.
Ya dont play hockey or wrestle in Georgia.
(thinking while typing, dont let it mess with ya)

Late Fires 11-02-2008 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortimer
It's really shocking.

I don't know...sometimes you have to cut your losses.There is no way this guy is a Michigan coach. They really ought to ship him and the AD who has caused this mess back to WVa.

Yep.

You may be right. But you're also right that it won't happen because of :$: . So, he gets a chance to fix it. The defense is more embarassing and inexcusable than the offense, and since he's an offensive guy, he needs to hire the right people and get it fixed, fast.

pgardn 11-02-2008 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortimer
It's really shocking.

I don't know...sometimes you have to cut your losses.There is no way this guy is a Michigan coach. They really ought to ship him and the AD who has caused this mess back to WVa.

He has not had time to recruit.
And I bet Rich can cheat with the best of them.

Late Fires 11-02-2008 07:37 PM

Why did I waste my time?

Phil can spit out ridiculous statements faster than I can type.

Now I know why Ethel went to the shiv.

Mortimer 11-02-2008 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Late Fires
Yep.

You may be right. But you're also right that it won't happen because of :$: . So, he gets a chance to fix it. The defense is more embarassing and inexcusable than the offense, and since he's an offensive guy, he needs to hire the right people and get it fixed, fast.

Oh well.


It's a topsy turvy way throughout cfb.

But it would have been nice if a coach demonstrated to Pryor the proper way to tote that loaf of bread.

dalakhani 11-02-2008 07:43 PM

In one thread I have become a huge fan of Late fires although no one can ever replace Mort.

I find the notion that Tressel and Ohio St have been failures over the last 9 years pretty stupid. 3 national title games and 1 national championship is failure?

Is Stoops a failure at Oklahoma as well?

Pete Carroll at USC?

How many coaches and programs have been MORE successful?

whenever someone badmouths Tressel, I know that i shouldnt pay too much attention to the opinion being offered.

pgardn 11-02-2008 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Late Fires
Why did I waste my time?

Morton's bhatch asking about wasting time...
Yes indeed.

Well you fellas have a great day tomorrow.

Mortimer 11-02-2008 07:46 PM

LateFires...Dala loves me and that's why you just got 2nd place....but I would give you my vote.


As for Phil.............he remains among the unranked.

Mortimer 11-02-2008 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalakhani
In one thread I have become a huge fan of Late fires although no one can ever replace Mort.

I find the notion that Tressel and Ohio St have been failures over the last 9 years pretty stupid. 3 national title games and 1 national championship is failure?

Is Stoops a failure at Oklahoma as well?

Pete Carroll at USC?

How many coaches and programs have been MORE successful?

whenever someone badmouths Tressel, I know that i shouldnt pay too much attention to the opinion being offered.


Ten Pie-er...no question.

Late Fires 11-02-2008 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortimer
LateFires...Dala loves me and that's why you just got 2nd place....but I would give you my vote.


As for Phil.............he remains among the unranked.

I'm honored just to be mentioned in the same post. I couldn't carry your keyboard. Dala is a very wise poster.

Mortimer 11-02-2008 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Late Fires
I'm honored just to be mentioned in the same post. I couldn't carry your keyboard. Dala is a very wise poster.

LF..please.

She won't give it up even to me........have you no pride?

Late Fires 11-02-2008 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortimer
LF..please.

She won't give it up even to me........have you no pride?

Doesn't the fact that I respond to Phil's nonsense answer that question?

Mortimer 11-02-2008 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Late Fires
Doesn't the fact that I respond to Phil's nonsense answer that question?


I stand corrected.


We shameless count you among us.

Mortimer 11-02-2008 08:53 PM

But don't test Dannie.




Just don't do it.

Late Fires 11-02-2008 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortimer
But don't test Dannie.




Just don't do it.

Don't worry.

It was reading Dala's whipping of Phil from the other night that got me SSSOOOOOOO HOT.

Mortimer 11-02-2008 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Late Fires
Don't worry.

It was reading Dala's whipping of Phil from the other night that got me SSSOOOOOOO HOT.


WHEW!!






:)










thud


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