That's a first.....would matter what the **** I said, you be sure to knock it! ;)

Boy, that lasted REAL long :rolleyes: as usual....

what caused you to lose respect for McCain? he has said nothing about BO's birth certificate authenticity.

Nailed.

ah, how I have missed the DerbyTrail political discussions. its like Daily Kos, minus the taut reasoning.

I think part of the problem is people disagree about exactly what being socialist, or having a socialist government, actually is.

Hi Arljim78. I can't speak for anyone else but i have missed you. Not the same without you.

Have a happy halloween and a happy election day.

Any big plans?

If 2 people use the same fkn door, somebody would call it Socialist.

I think he tolerates nutjobs way too much. This plumber guy said a vote for Obama would be a vote for the the end of Israel. After that, how can Johnboy put that guy at the podium of his rally? That's bizarre.

^^^^ Lost on 9 round tko to Dala.

I was in her corner.

:)

it's all perspective. if you spend your entire time watching fox and reading right wing blogs i can see how this place would look ultra liberal.

here, the mods pretty much leave this room alone. so you have to put up with people like me. and i have to put up with you and tim.

but your input is welcome here. maybe you're just too used to being in an echo chamber for an actual debate.

it's not easy but geek, riley, dala, honu, antitrust and many other's seem to handle it well.

come back and post what you want but expect b.s. to get called. or just stay in the playpen over at p.a.

OOOOOOOOOO

Remind me not to mess with God.

Do not mess with God.

LOL.

What did you think I meant?
This is gonna be good.

So what do you call the latest Government financial intervention?
What do you call the IMF?
What do you call the FDIC?

What do you call Government's heavily subsidizing people building right on Fault lines and on hurricane coasts?

What do you call the government subsidizing health care?
What do you call Social Security?

Help me out here.

How much bullshit did you collect
while sponging her orifice...

If substance arrives, Morton seizes.

Is that your daughter in that picture on your profile?

Same here Jay with you, in your case a little dick behind a keyboard. Gutless little weenie who just doesn't let up. **** off!

such anger. If you were to see da hoss on the street after all that has tanspired here, would you provoke fisticuffs?

Why would you look on my profile?
And why do you want to know?

What is your opinion about how socialized our country is?
I mentioned a number of agencies and funds, what do you think?

Why did you make that crude remark about me Phil? I was being nice to you. You owe me an apology dont you think?

Which remark was crude?
What do you think about the characterization of
our monetary system becoming socialized?

You know which one Phil. "sponging"? That wasnt very nice. I think you should apologize. It was in poor taste and could be offensive to many of the young readers that frequent this forum.

I have been cordial to you this evening. Why waste yet another thread being small? You should apologize.

So sponging the BS coming out of your mouth is crude?
I will warn you to stay well away from torty morty's threads.

Now on topic. Socialization?

He doesn't show his face....just talks a big game here, I'm easy to find. I tried a truce, but that lasted a little over a week....so I guess he's got the rag on again. I'm sick of his crap....and I'm sure there are others too.

No apology then Phil?

There are others that are very very tired.
So tired that they talk violently. To those not even involved.
I think its best to steer clear of the insane group that want his head.

For what?
If I said something out of line by your standards, please explain.

And what about some real substance. The economy and socialization?
Is this not what the thread was leading to?

Is that your daughter in the picture?

Why must you know?

This is getting repetitive.
dontya think?

Question with questions...
You want substance stuff, or BS?

Explain how I offended you and get on with it.
Yes? attempted manipulation is not necessary.

Never said i was offended. I said it could be offensive.

The point is that it was crude and unprovoked. I greeted you cordially. Why start with that crap if you wanted to stay on topic?

Now, if you would like to get back on topic, be a man and apologize. Dont pretend to take the high road. Its cheap.

These three were responses to problems that pure capitalism caused. You can not show me a country where pure capitalism ever worked. It has the same flaws that show up each time it is tried. The only thing that will ever work is the right amount of capitalism mixed with the right amount of shared risk and responsibility(Socialism.) For instance, any road that you drive on (without paying a toll for) is a bit of Socialism. The fire department is a bit of shared risk(Socialism.) Our National Defense is a form of shared risk(Socialism.) When these hillbillies get their trailers destroyed by twisters, what happens? They take the Gov't aid they would have surely voted against ever being available to anyone. That is a form of shared risk in response to a natural tragedy. All these things you despise came about because your way was tried, and it failed. With Pure Capitalism, one of the givens is that there will always be severe poverty. Try it. You will see. I will win the bet. We have had some level of Socialism for a quite some time. We are brainwashed to say we don't, but we do. We are civilized because of it.

Oh not with the be a man stuff...
Not the Coach Pants speech.

What was crude?
And unprovoked...
Did you ever apologize about the Nazi thread
that was simplistic, distorted, and disingenuous?

The one Hossy bailed on by calling me an expert
when all that was clear was that he had not a clue.
And you aligned yourself with that ignorance. An intelligent
woman like yourself taking the disingenuous path is
disturbing to me. I am normally overly trusting of others.

Whoa, whoa my friend.
I dont despise these things at all.

We are talking about a balance here.
There is no purely socialized society that has survived long either.
They also dont really exist imo.

Poor Phil. So desperate for attention.

Yawn....thanks for the compliment. :)

Whatever.

Sorry I am a bad playmate.

Morty and Hoss are always around.
I wont be most of the time, so its best for you.
Desperate for attention...
dust off that mirror.
or dont