Not sure I beleive that but, it sure does look more like dirt than any syn Ive seen.

Looks like Stardom bound may be out of the Oak Leaf tomorrow:(

http://www.drf.com/news/article/98552.html

I'm surprised that Spirit One is 8-1 ml odds. I think he's the best and will hope for 5-1 and up

ZENYATTA 09/20 Hol/ft 6f 112.4h
Looked grand galloping on the 19th here at Hollywood and then
turned in a great work here for Shirreffs. Worked with Bronzino, a very
good workhorse, but not such a great racehorse. She started five
behind, closed the gap by the 1/4 pole, and drew off in the lane by
three and went out strongly. Bronzino had no response at all as he
seems to be a bit chicken hearted.


from today's racing digest

Was a strong inside bias today, if HL gets that Zenyatta cant beat her.

If you believe that Hystericalady won't like this stuff....you can get a nice price playing a straight Zenyatta with Santa Teresita exacta. Well it will be nicer than Zenyatta with HL anyway.

I think that Zenyatta will have too much work to do when they turn for the wire. It looks like Hystericalady has it her way on paper.

Maybe HL gets pressured a bit early by Wake Up Maggie as Tyler more likely to send than most? But no question Zenyatta better bring her A game.

.........zenyatta will go by her in the stretch as she has done every single time.

Cocoa Beach (CHI), Personal Ensign, Pride, My Juliet, Relaxing, Summer Guest, Susan's Girl, Very Subtle, Xtra Heat, Desert Stormer, Typecast, Persian Tiara, Ta Wee, Shuvee, This is off the top of my head, which tends to dwell on the days of my youth.

Nice call.

That was effortless.

She is not only HUGE in size, but in the way she WINS.

what were the fractions, that was way to easy, I mean that could get "cantering"

She's a beast, couldn't have done it easier.

Sadler with yet another cockslap to the industry.

Fractions were 24...48....1:11.....yet Hystericalady still couldn't win.....lol.

Agreed. I'll tell you what, I don't care what anyone says but I'd love to see her in the Classic and not the Distaff. She ran the last 1/16th in under 6 seconds...rough math and all that's impressive.

The track is a highway today so times or fractions really dont mean a whole lot.

But to come from off the pace so effortlessly...

She does things pretty effortlessly, if she does go to the Classic and wins, alot of if's yes. Can anyone deny her a HOY Eclispe award? She's a big filly and I don't think it would be a disadvantage for her to try, in addition she would get a weight allowance and at her size that would be sort of giving her a 5 ft head start not as if she needs one.

She has no turn of foot at all on synthetic.

She was lucky to hold off that rat for 2nd.

If they run HL in the Distaff - they should ride her hard the whole way and go for the as fast as you can for as far as you can tactic.

She's zero - for - life on synthetics ... where on dirt she dominantes horses with a huge burst for a speed horse off the base of the far turn.

She's not going to the Classic but she should be. And if she won she'd absolutely be HOY.

Fascinating that an amazon like her that comes from way behind, was within three lengths of the pace and still sailed on in ...
It showed me a new dimension, even conceding the slow early pace ...
This mare is just too good ... She is elegant, full of personality, and can run ... Perfectly ...
Despite the clamor to run her against males---where she does belong---I applaud the connections that are letting her grow into her huge body and mature mentally ...
If she runs next year, I can not see her not going against males ... And successfully ...

wow Tiago was like a gazillion wide. With a better trip he would have won.

The typical Mike Smith 8-10 wide move
 

Yes, he could have won with a "smart ride" which is an oxymoron when Mike Smith is the jockey. Stardom Bound is good enough vs. her competition to overcome that ride but Tiago is not....

The ride on Tiago was so bad i was embarassed for Smith.

I thought Spirit One was interesting. I don't know if it was the ride, the unfamiliarity with the surface, or the colt being too amped up prerace, but he ran in spots throughout. Broke well, settled nicely early, made an early bid to reach contention between horses, lost position, then surged back into it at the 1/16th pole just as Well Armed rebroke from the pack. Finished a solid 5th.

Hopefully his connections will use this race as a building block and continue to point for the Classic, rather than target one of the turf races. With a more focused run, he could threaten for a placing I think.

that horse had a more than winning trip today, yes he had to swing out for the stretch but that hardly cost him anything......you have to run down a tiring front running on that track and he could not......can you see major sucker horse in the classic, especially if there or more views that the trip cost him the win.

Oh, geez. First off, can we lay off Personal Ensign already? She was one-in-a-million or whatever.

Secondly, we're trying to talk about the distaff division (ie dirt routers). Its well established that sprinting fillies can tear up with colts for 3/4s of a mile. See ya Very Subtle, My Juliet, Desert Stormer (brutal), Ta Wee.

Thirdly, Susan's Girl was champion 3yo filly. I don't think she ran against colts til she was older. By the same token, Shuvee was the dominant 3yo filly of 1969, winning the Triple Tiara and the Alabama. She lost the championship to Gallant Bloom, who beat her a couple of times in lesser races like the Delaware Oaks and the Gardenia. Either way, she didn't face colts til later.

The rest of your examples are basically plodding stayers that might have run against males in marathon races. They weren't, in many instances, even at the top of their respective divisions much less dominant, and thus not particularly relevant to the discussion at hand.

Oh...and Cocoa Beach?

RED GIANT... sharp

RED GIANT...setup

Nice patient start from Gryder on Well Armed, but why did Johnny V force the issue with Mast Track? He obviously wasn't going to get an easy trip up front with Well Armed breathing down his neck, and he doesn't seem like a need-to-lead horse to me... Wonder what Frankel thinks, and if that was the horse being rank or Johnny V misreading the horse??



yes , but no it wasn't worth any :$:. Albertus Maximus was bet much more than his cumulative form would suggest he was worth, and Fan-Fav Tiago runs 2nd. Smart money knew to bet his last race and some dumb money probably followed Gomez as well. Pretty good trips for AM and Tiago because the track was playing bigtime to the wide finish in the lane.


Was the Classic winner in the Goodwood?
No.
If the track plays the same, the classic winner should be a quality turf horse with late kick. If none such horse enters, Go Between has as much as chance as any by default.

Well Armed has a shot at top 5 in the classic if things go smoothly.

Likes an off track. Hoping Jones sent him through with "Delaware level" meds. Big odds. I bet $1ex Curly w/ 6,8 and $2win StinksRiver

Obviously way too cheap. I don't think he got a call :D.

the set up was for frankel, RED GIANT RAN HUGE

TIAGO, ran well and IMO is legit in the classic, especially if Commentator does run, the pace will be sharp and Tiago should have got enough out of this race today to be set for a lifetime best race

please explain this.... how was the center of the track the place to be ? street boss, clearly the beat and most talented sprinter in his race, gets a amazing pace to run at, but could not get by, please dont tell me the 8 is better then street boss

What? Gomez blew it. He was only about 3 lengths off of a :45 half going 10f and then moved too early. Not to mention the horse is a horrendous hanger. When's the last time he won, when he was life and death to beat allowance horse Zann (with Lava Man and Surf Cat in as lame duck favorites)?

logic shmogic