i think steve should have a 'silly' room for threads like this. hey, maybe tomcito can come to the classic too. that would make for a really, really great race.:rolleyes:

The odds may indeed be in that direction but they don't tell me what SHOULD happen.

He probably won't win the race, but he sure as hell could determine who does. If they send this horse to the lead and nobody goes with him, goodbye. Somebody will go with him though and that somebody will probably not been there at the end.

Victor Espinoza is on this horse and you can be sure come Breeders Cup day that he will try to pull off another War Emblem.

This horse will be overbet though because of Japanese money. I wouldn't be shocked if he is the 4th or 5th choice.

this is no free ride

Sensational Score , and Informed are competitive

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I mean literally jump off a bridge if pg AND kyrim show up

i dont want to humor anyone here, but are you serious ?
if he is sound, he wins for fun. this horse has as much Raw Talent as anyone.

He has as much raw talent as any 3yr old, which isn't saying much. There are some older horses going that appear to have significantly more talent. If this was a 12f race and he had prepped in the JCGC then maybe.

:)
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May the circle be unbroken...

I really don't know anything about Casino Drive.

He sure looked good in the Peter Pan.

WTF is up with 2 races lifetime?

Does he even like synthetic?

Does he have enough early foot at a mile & sixteenth?

Honestly I hope he looks great Sunday, but I would consider a play against in the multi-race.

:D

I obviously don't think CD has much of a chance in the Classic, but I guess I don't understand why people have to treat him like he's a pig.

He did run a good race in the Peter Pan, overcoming several obstacles to win it.........At the time, most people thought he could develop into a very nice horse. Is this colt getting worse with time or people just don't like him because he got some attention?

i guess most would rather a horse earn his constant attention, both from bettors and the media, than just garner slavering praise because of who his mama happens to be. two starts, why should the horse even be a subject of discussion regarding the bcc? questioning the thought process of his handlers doesn't equate to him being treated as being a pig.

I agree - I don't have a problem with questioning his handlers. I think the constant shipping between Japan and the US is ridiculous. If they think this horse is good, IMO, they should leave him here, let him develop and point for next year's Classic.

I'm not saying that people should slobber over CD - just that now I think the trend is going the other way, that he's now apparently completely untalented.

He's good enough to compete in this years Classic already. Whether he's good enough to win is a different story. The "point to next year's Classic" logic is boring! He's better than Smooth Air.

Purple Saddle Cloths For BC.... What a surprise!!
 

Just when you were convinced that perhaps the BC was actually concerned with fans being able to watch the races and follow the position of horses during a race.........THE DREADED PURPLE SADDLE CLOTHS ARE BACK.

In another display of exactly how much disdain there remains for players as reported Friday on ATR with Byk, Rick Hammerle again belatedly made public the intentions of the BC to again 1) refuse to use colored sadlle cloths or 2) pay for state of the art Trakus as is used currently at KE and Del Mar.

Once again the races will be impossible to watch becuase you cannot distinguish one horse from another as is the case in virtually every track in the country.

"I used to get disgusted but now I try and stay amused".....

They really aren't that bad....no one is going to mistake Zenyatta for Hystericalady. You know most of these horses.

And if it's near the finish line and your horse isn't one of the first 4 or so that you can see clearly, you've probably lost all hope anyway.

There's no reason to have them all the same color. Sorry if I'd like to know where my horses are before the finish line.

Look at the silks of your horse, those kind of help.

Want to lend me some binoculars? What if I have multiple horses in the race? It's a little annoying to have to try to ferret out the silks of 3-4 horses and then attempt to follow them all, whereas with Trakus or colored saddlecloths, I could see right away where everyone was.

BINGO

Do away with TRACK ANNOUNCERS -- they're about as accurate as chart makers --

and invest the money in TRAKUS. Watching races is EASY when the NUMBERS on the screen are ACCURATE. With Trakus, you don't even need the colored cloths.

Time for the industry to CATCH UP WITH PRESENT TECHNOLOGY (and thus gain some desperately needed ACCURACY).

Didn't work last year. All the silks were brown.

You sure bro??

This horse reminds me of French Deputy.

Insane early promise and rushed into the BCC. I think he was making his 4th or 5th lifetime start, against Cigar.

If he's anything like French Deputy, he'll lose his allowance prep at extremely short odds...

For anyone that doesn't remember him though... here's the 95 Jerome.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtGa8jcCp5g

er, i think he means muddy.:D

Thanks Danzig, some people can be a little slow to catch on around here.

Why isnt TVG using trakus at KEE this year? I guess, like everything else in this game, it makes too much sense.

and wet!

The purple saddle towels are a pain in the a$$ to follow, but it's really no worse than trying to watch European races, especially Ascot where the numbers are microscopic and the saddle towels are all the same color.

from drf.com

"To win Sunday's race, Casino Drive has to beat horses with proven Fairplex Park form. Dakota Phone finished a wide third in the Pomona Derby on Sept. 20, Gregorian Bay was third in the Phil Shepherd Stakes on Sept. 6, and Sensational Score was a wide third in the Ralph Hinds Pomona Invitational on Sept.o21."

lol

so much for hammerle's influence and all the emails sent to him.
this just shows the disreguard the BC has for fans and players.

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:o

Horses? Who said anything about horses?

We're trying to watch colored squares here.

Horse racing has finally been distilled to a live-action version of super lotto. They just substituted some beasts of burden on a dirt track for the wind machine that blows the balls around in the plastic bin.

The purple cloths, and purlple and white are in general the brand of the breeders cup, I think they are more concerned with that then the player. I look at silks anyways.

:tro:

Yeah, come to think of it, he looked highly suspect going into the BCC, and I mean that besides going in with such a light resume of races.

Edit: I just watched the Jerome again, thanks. That horse was so promising early on in his career. I hate the way that horse was handled.

great for win bets.

but when i have 5 horses in a leg of a multi or multiple horses for 3rd in a tri i miss the simplicity of a color/number that's ingrained.

it actually feels like the lottery with all purple. i have no f'in idea in a loud crowd what the announcer is saying.

all purple is the triumph of the horse racing is a "sport" argument over "gambling". no one who bets understands this.

I dont understand why they are so stubborn with the saddle towels. I mean it is seemingly a minor issue that virtually no one outside of the BC offices seems to support. I understand when people say that they dont care about the people watching the races, it certainly rings true but I dont know why they wouldnt change at least for the positive PR? Lord knows they need some.