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GBBob 07-08-2008 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by dalakhani
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/apr...orts/sp-favre4

i did a google and found a link to an LA times article and it appears it is a legit rumor although the truth of the rumor can be questioned.

Let me ask you this...if Brett Favre wanted out of GB, how else could he do it without crushing his image?
I don't know if that would have been possible, but going to Thompson and telling him that would have opened up some other options besides this fiasco.
Lots of behind the scenes stuff can happen.

Scav 07-08-2008 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by GBBob
If he goes to the Vikings, it will make for an interesting Monday night opener when they are retiring his #.....against the Vikings..

If I'm a Bear Boy like you, I'm hoping Angelo has Bus Cook's number
I have no idea what to think about Favre playing for the Bears, nor do I think there is a chance in hell of that happened, if he knows what is good for him.

Green Bay would kill him, and if he lost to the Packers, the Bears fans would think he was fixing the game

dalakhani 07-08-2008 02:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GBBob
I don't know if that would have been possible, but going to Thompson and telling him that would have opened up some other options besides this fiasco.
Lots of behind the scenes stuff can happen.
Possibly. But...the team would take all of the heat in that situation or Favre would. There would be no speculation.

In the current scenario, a split is mutual with no real loser outside of the GB/Favre fan.

If he leaves, GB can use the excuse that they had to plan for life without favre and going back to him would have longterm cap ramifications that would leave the team in dire straights. On top of that, they would have to cut some good veterans right now.

Favre can say that he wanted to go back but the team couldnt make it work. What better way could it have played out if he told thompson immediately after the season that he no longer wanted to play in GB?

GBBob 07-08-2008 02:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dalakhani
Possibly. But...the team would take all of the heat in that situation or Favre would. There would be no speculation.

In the current scenario, a split is mutual with no real loser outside of the GB/Favre fan.

If he leaves, GB can use the excuse that they had to plan for life without favre and going back to him would have longterm cap ramifications that would leave the team in dire straights. On top of that, they would have to cut some good veterans right now.
Favre can say that he wanted to go back but the team couldnt make it work. What better way could it have played out if he told thompson immediately after the season that he no longer wanted to play in GB?

Other than the bolded above, which is impossible to sell because they are $31 Million under the cap, everything else is conjecture and can never be proven. I don't think this is any more than what appears at face value, you think there might be more to it. It's a qualitative argument that has no end so let's see how it plays out.

KY_Sasquash 07-08-2008 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by GBBob
I'll take the leap and buy your "rumors", which I don't believe. But why exactly did he want out of GB if not to retire? It's not money, it's not his relationship with McCarthey, it's not the talent surrounding him, it's not that he wants to play in a "big city"...so, what is it then? I mean...I lived in GB for four years and moved to Chicago as fast as I could so I'm not some naive Green Bay guy, but he genuinely liked living up there.

Ted Thompson.

GBBob 07-08-2008 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by KY_Sasquash
Ted Thompson.
He likes him a whole lot more than Mike Sherman. And he brought him players who can win.

I know you're saying on a personality level though..
who knows

dalakhani 07-08-2008 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by GBBob
Other than the bolded above, which is impossible to sell because they are $31 Million under the cap, everything else is conjecture and can never be proven. I don't think this is any more than what appears at face value, you think there might be more to it. It's a qualitative argument that has no end so let's see how it plays out.
Fair enough. Either way, regardless of how it plays out i dont think anyone is at fault here. Favre has earned the right to do as he pleases and the team has been more than gracious and patient with him over the last couple of seasons. If Favre indeed chooses to play elsewhere i dont think anyone should villify him whether he made the decision recently as you say or whether it was made way back like i say.

I agree...lets see how it plays out.

Mortimer 07-08-2008 03:54 PM
Favre...what a donut.

ddthetide 07-08-2008 08:09 PM
originally i think he wanted to retire, he'd had enough. now he's off all winter and spring. he's bored and doesn't know what to get into. driven his wife and kids crazy and they told him to go play football.
timing of the decision, it's gotten him out of workouts and mini-camp, that ALL the vets HATE!
i think the packers should either trade farve or release him. it's time for the packers to move on. there are plenty of teams that could rent farve and he'd help for a year or so. even if to teach a younger qb. farve Can't be in GB and teach rodgers.

Danzig 07-09-2008 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by wiphan
This has been going on for over 3 years. People seem to forget about this. This isn't new. When will it end? He has been given a pass by us as fans and the media more times than anyone else. No one forced him to make a decision this year. Ted Thompson begged for him to come back in McCarthy's first year as coach. Brett made his decision. His number is being retired on the first game of the year vs vikings, his locker was sent to him in MS. The packers have moved on and brett needs to do the same. He came out and told everyone he retired. I am not saying that Rodgers is the next MVP QB, etc.; but Favre is the past now. As much as I don't like it, it is time to move on.
favre still had damn good numbers the last few years, better than most of the other qb's in the league. i'm not quite sure why anyone has to 'move on'--it's football. all teams need a qb, what does it matter really if favre wants to play another year? how does it hurt anyone? hell, the pack made it to the post season last year-which is exactly what you want from your team--so how did favre staying hurt them last season? it's not as tho he is hurting his team by remaining-if the guy behind him was soooo good, he'd be the starter.

Mortimer 07-09-2008 11:58 AM
She's in Louisiana.....what do you expect?

GBBob 07-11-2008 10:13 PM
Asked for his release from GB today....Wonder where he's going?

pgardn 07-12-2008 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by GBBob
Asked for his release from GB today....Wonder where he's going?
He really cant go back to the Central.
Probably not even the NFC.

How about KC?

I failed to comment on this thread (a first)
because I was trying to figure out what the
heck he wants.

I will go with Football is all he knows withdrawl symptoms.

Mortimer 07-13-2008 09:11 AM
I hope they say ..we will release you...no we won't...yes we will.....no we won't.

GBBob 07-14-2008 02:45 PM
blah, blah, blah..

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3486775

hi_im_god 07-14-2008 02:58 PM
i think the problem is he spends his offseason in mississippi.

anyone faced with an entire year there would want to find some alternative.

GPK 07-14-2008 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
i think the problem is he spends his offseason in mississippi.

anyone faced with an entire year there would want to find some alternative.

I think the problem is his ego is HUUUUUUUUUUUGE and it is killing his ego to have his career end the way it did last year.

ddthetide 07-14-2008 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
i think the problem is he spends his offseason in mississippi.
off season in mississippi is easy , winter in GB is hard!
i think the packers should have pushed him for an answer. it wasn't right that he left the team in limbo until he made a decision.

Mortimer 07-15-2008 07:01 AM
I wonder if he will have a press conference to officially announce his unretirement--and cry.




There's never been a greater pc crier.

Mortimer 07-15-2008 10:07 AM
You misguided Favre fans....type in cleveland.com and go to sporty news....Bill Livingston.


People are finally starting to print the truth.

You may not like it.

wiphan 07-15-2008 10:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mortimer
You misguided Favre fans....type in cleveland.com and go to sporty news....Bill Livingston.


People are finally starting to print the truth.

You may not like it.
I am a fan of Favre, but more so a Packer fan. Livingston prints the truth and that is the only solution at this point. People forget a lot of the bad that comes with brett. I appreciate him, but the packers owe him nothing. Best of luck in the AFC. I will cheer for him unless he is playing against the packers, but he will not be wearing the Green and Gold in 2008.

Mortimer 07-15-2008 10:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wiphan
I am a fan of Favre, but more so a Packer fan. Livingston prints the truth and that is the only solution at this point. People forget a lot of the bad that comes with brett. I appreciate him, but the packers owe him nothing. Best of luck in the AFC. I will cheer for him unless he is playing against the packers, but he will not be wearing the Green and Gold in 2008.


Fine work.

GBBob 07-15-2008 10:36 AM
http://www.cleveland.com/sports/plai...l=2&thispage=2

Well...Much of it is the same old stuff rehashed under different circumstances, but I agree with the time to move on theme.

And you can bring up any pick or playoff game you want, but I STILL would take Favre over any QB in the last 20 years. The unremarkeable lack of talent he was stuck with at WR for so many of those years will always stand out in my mind. To call him "ordinary" is just plain wrong, IMO

edit...What can I say, I'm stubborn

philcski 07-15-2008 10:41 AM
I agree with Cleveland PD guy, but WNY papers want him on the Bills:
http://www.democratandchronicle.com/...807140328/1011

Mortimer 07-15-2008 10:43 AM
I would take Manning over him any day.

Brady as well.



That's 2 without thinking about it....and neither has played nearly as long as he.

What's the worst thing a qb can do?
Turn the ball over a lot.

timmgirvan 07-16-2008 03:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mortimer
I would take Manning over him any day.

Brady as well.



That's 2 without thinking about it....and neither has played nearly as long as he.

What's the worst thing a qb can do?
Turn the ball over a lot.
Spot on....and you wouldn't hear Manning or Brady whining about this situation either! Favre want his cake and everything else.....He is the one who's put the Pack on the defensive with his diva-like "will I-won't I" crap every spring! Time to move on for the Pack.

Mortimer 07-16-2008 03:25 PM
thud

GBBob 07-31-2008 10:46 AM
well..it's the thread that won't die...

Sounds like he now may end up with Bears or Vikings...He won't go to TB or Jets ( waaaaaaahhhhhhhh) and GB desperate to move on and supposedly ( ESPN) this is getting more and more possible.

Mortimer 07-31-2008 11:27 AM
It is funny that some people don't recognize the only joke going on is Favre.

GPK 07-31-2008 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Mortimer
It is funny that some people don't recognize the only joke going on is Favre.

This makes the top 3 list of most intelligent things you have ever said on this board.

Mortimer 07-31-2008 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by GPK
This makes the top 3 list of most intelligent things you have ever said on this board.

You dumb azz.






I haven't said 3 intelligent things on this board.

GPK 08-01-2008 05:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mortimer
You dumb azz.






I haven't said 3 intelligent things on this board.

1. Thud
2. Ror
3. It is funny that some people don't recognize the only joke going on is Favre

Mortimer 08-01-2008 06:49 AM
I stand corrected.

GBBob 08-01-2008 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Mortimer
I stand corrected.
I was always partial to:

Well then fucl< you.. fucl<face

Mortimer 08-01-2008 07:02 AM
Well that would make 4.




How about a nice round of applause for teeew mothah fucl<ahs?

Mortimer 08-01-2008 07:11 AM
You have to say it like a Little Rascal would and somewhat quickly.

Mortimer 08-01-2008 07:12 AM
See?

All of a sudden it it becomes alive with gusto---don't it?

GPK 08-01-2008 07:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mortimer
Well that would make 4.




How about a nice round of applause for teeew mothah fucl<ahs?

Begrooooved...

herkhorse 08-01-2008 07:23 AM
#5

Crinckle....







Trash can

Mortimer 08-01-2008 07:50 AM
It's funny how one doesn't realize how intelligent one really is until everyone joins in the fun of pointing it out.



I,myself,can now see the true depth of blech.


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