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blackthroatedwind 06-22-2008 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
forget about Chavezs ride in the last, how about the horse? where did that come from? i went extra deep in that leg and didn't use the 8.
unfortunately that was the story of my whole day.


That was about as inexplicable a winner as you will find.

reese 06-22-2008 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Exactly, one thing has nothing to do with the other.

Oh stop being so serious....I'd agree Chavez is done, and posted what I did because it was ironic...Chavez won the nightcapAt Belmont and precipitated the carryover.

IF, if I bet Chavez, I'd say before the race. I don't redboard.

reese 06-22-2008 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I love how whenever you make a correct criticism of a rider, Chavez has real gate problems, someone shows up with their next winner.....as though that has anything to do with what you were talking about.

Unless I missed your post where you said Jorge Chavez would never win another race.

Testy, aren't we?
I NEVER posted I had Chavez...only POSTED (IRONICALLY) the Chavez booted home the $40.00 winner in thr 9th at Belmont.

BTW, YOU do know when you do the nyra handicapping show that you are supposed to be SPEAKING TO THE CAMERA ( AUDIENCE) NOT DONOVAN.
Go watch the tape of yourself today.

SCUDSBROTHER 06-22-2008 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
That was about as inexplicable a winner as you will find.

When he was out here riding in the last race, he seemed to be able to will any rat to make a big winning bid on the turn.

hoovesupsideyourhead 06-22-2008 08:14 PM

wants your opinion enough to put YOU on the nyra show ..then you can talk about on camera angles.....

ArlJim78 06-22-2008 08:25 PM

i caught that nyra show today, and didn't notice anybody looking the wrong way. i'm no marty scorcese but i'm pretty sure that for a show like that you are supposed to look sometimes at the camera and other times at the guy that you are chatting with.

blackthroatedwind 06-22-2008 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by reese
Testy, aren't we?
I NEVER posted I had Chavez...only POSTED (IRONICALLY) the Chavez booted home the $40.00 winner in thr 9th at Belmont.

BTW, YOU do know when you do the nyra handicapping show that you are supposed to be SPEAKING TO THE CAMERA ( AUDIENCE) NOT DONOVAN.
Go watch the tape of yourself today.


And I never said you said you bet the Chavez horse.

I appreciate your suggestions about any on camera work I do, as well as those from anyone, and while it is fine if you direct your TV talent to stare straight at the camera, as you should run your stuff as you see fit, but in my case I have been directed to look at the camera part of the time as well as the person I am doing the show with. If you don't look at the other person then you give the incorrect impression that you aren't listening or conversing with them.

Scav 06-22-2008 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
i caught that nyra show today, and didn't notice anybody looking the wrong way. i'm no marty scorcese but i'm pretty sure that for a show like that you are supposed to look sometimes at the camera and other times at the guy that you are chatting with.

All of a sudden there is a bunch of people that are in communications and know everything about being on TV.

blackthroatedwind 06-22-2008 08:33 PM

And just when I thought I had gotten past my " lying hands " and poor wardrobe problems.

jcs11204 06-22-2008 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
And just when I thought I had gotten past my " lying hands " and poor wardrobe problems.

your wardrobe is decent

hoovesupsideyourhead 06-22-2008 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
And just when I thought I had gotten past my " lying hands " and poor wardrobe problems.

da tie was pimp sat...contacts..get rid of the "moe greens"

jcs11204 06-22-2008 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by reese
Testy, aren't we?
I NEVER posted I had Chavez...only POSTED (IRONICALLY) the Chavez booted home the $40.00 winner in thr 9th at Belmont.

BTW, YOU do know when you do the nyra handicapping show that you are supposed to be SPEAKING TO THE CAMERA ( AUDIENCE) NOT DONOVAN.
Go watch the tape of yourself today.

i feel like hes talking directly to me

blackthroatedwind 06-22-2008 08:36 PM

No, the glasses stay.

I do need more ties. I may have to drag my lazy ass to Barneys or Saks tomorrow.

jcs11204 06-22-2008 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
No, the glasses stay.

I do need more ties. I may have to drag my lazy ass to Barneys or Saks tomorrow.

i'd get rid of the glasses.

jcs11204 06-22-2008 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
:{>: :{>: :{>: :rolleyes:

very creepy

lololol

jcs11204 06-22-2008 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
No, the glasses stay.

I do need more ties. I may have to drag my lazy ass to Barneys or Saks tomorrow.

do you need a agent ?

ArlJim78 06-22-2008 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
i'd get rid of the glasses.

did you know The Cooler is on IFC right now? have you ever seen it?

jcs11204 06-22-2008 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
did you know The Cooler is on IFC right now? have you ever seen it?

no, why ?

blackthroatedwind 06-22-2008 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
did you know The Cooler is on IFC right now? have you ever seen it?


I'm watching it.

Maria Bello is really hot.

Kasept 06-22-2008 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
It's getting creepy in here now.

As opposed to when?

ArlJim78 06-22-2008 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I'm watching it.

Maria Bello is really hot.

oh god yes, not many hotter. she does it for me.

jcs11204 06-22-2008 08:45 PM

mr and mrs smith is on fx
usa is showing a new law n order ci, pretty good so far

hoovesupsideyourhead 06-22-2008 08:46 PM

wow.......a.d.d



































:mad:



























:eek:




































:rolleyes:

Scav 06-22-2008 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
did you know The Cooler is on IFC right now? have you ever seen it?

Just turned it on, never seen it although I have heard alot about it....

reese 06-22-2008 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
And I never said you said you bet the Chavez horse.

I appreciate your suggestions about any on camera work I do, as well as those from anyone, and while it is fine if you direct your TV talent to stare straight at the camera, as you should run your stuff as you see fit, but in my case I have been directed to look at the camera part of the time as well as the person I am doing the show with. If you don't look at the other person then you give the incorrect impression that you aren't listening or conversing with them.

BTW, I was boasting to my pals at the OTB (not that you need touts) that you are a good handcapper...don't always pick the favorites(a major complaint about public handicappers). Just mentioned an extended "stare to Donovan" in passing.

As a handicapper you are very good. NYRA has been good at keeping up the video with the selections. Remind them to post your selections at the bottom of the screen

At an OTB, the NYRA sound is not always on...competition from harness tracks running...so w/o sound no one knows what race/horses are being discussed on camera w/o the selections posted.


Either way, kudos to NYRA for adding you to the handicapping show.

blackthroatedwind 06-22-2008 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by reese
BTW, I was boasting to my pals at the OTB (not that you need touts) that you are a good handcapper...don't always pick the favorites(a major complaint about public handicappers). Just mentioned an extended "stare to Donovan" in passing.

As a handicapper you are very good. NYRA has been good at keeping up the video with the selections. Remind them to post your selections at the bottom of the screen

At an OTB, the NYRA sound is not always on...competition from harness tracks running...so w/o sound no one knows what race/horses are being discussed on camera w/o the selections posted.


Either way, kudos to NYRA for adding you to the handicapping show.


Thanks.

I was teasing you, but actually I have no problem with anyone suggesting things I might be doing wrong on the show, and you may well be right that I looked at Eric too much. I'll try to pay more attention to that.

I'm very happy with the progress we have made adding replays. As far as the picks on the screen, we always want to put them up but unfortunately sometimes we lose them because of technical difficulties.

Tell the OTB to put the sound up!

jcs11204 06-22-2008 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by reese
BTW, I was boasting to my pals at the OTB (not that you need touts) that you are a good handcapper...don't always pick the favorites(a major complaint about public handicappers). Just mentioned an extended "stare to Donovan" in passing.

As a handicapper you are very good. NYRA has been good at keeping up the video with the selections. Remind them to post your selections at the bottom of the screen

At an OTB, the NYRA sound is not always on...competition from harness tracks running...so w/o sound no one knows what race/horses are being discussed on camera w/o the selections posted.


Either way, kudos to NYRA for adding you to the handicapping show.


HES coming close to legendery status !!!!!!!
does anyone know where chuck has been ? i have not seen any posts from him in at least a few days.

reese 06-22-2008 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
All of a sudden there is a bunch of people that are in communications and know everything about being on TV.

I'm the "Audience" Serling and Donovan are communicating with via NYRA feed. The goal of a broadcaster is to reach and grab the attention of his/her "audience". I had a passing comment to make as an viewer of the NYRA show:rolleyes:

blackthroatedwind 06-22-2008 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by reese
I'm the "Audience" Serling and Donovan are communicating with via NYRA feed. The goal of a broadcaster is to reach and grab the attention of his/her "audience". I had a passing comment to make as an viewer of the NYRA show:rolleyes:

You're right.

ArlJim78 06-22-2008 09:03 PM

actually its been quite awhile since i've watched that nyra show, i used to watch it all the time.

but what struck me today was the replays, how many there were and how they were seemlessly integrated into the show. that adds a lot.

jcs11204 06-22-2008 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
actually its been quite awhile since i've watched that nyra show, i used to watch it all the time.

but what struck me today was the replays, how many there were and how they were seemlessly integrated into the show. that adds a lot.

where did jason b go ?

ArlJim78 06-22-2008 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
where did jason b go ?

how do i know?

jcs11204 06-22-2008 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
how do i know?

i did not mean to quote you, that was supposed to be to anyone. mainly BTW, im sure he knows

blackthroatedwind 06-22-2008 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
actually its been quite awhile since i've watched that nyra show, i used to watch it all the time.

but what struck me today was the replays, how many there were and how they were seemlessly integrated into the show. that adds a lot.

I'm glad to hear you say that. I figure the replays work in two ways, most importantly ( obviously ) you want to show interesting trips, as this helps educate for the immediate and theoretically for the future, and secondly you can use them to enhance the broadcast and allow the viewer to stare at us less. Plus, it's nice to show clips of the leading horses in any feature.

The goal of anybody on TV, from the lowest to the highest level, is to get people to watch you. Hopefully we are encouraging more people to pay attention.

ArlJim78 06-22-2008 09:12 PM

its really so much better than two guys just reading from their notes, hearing the comments and at the same time seeing what is being described is much more informative and takes full advantage of the medium.

blackthroatedwind 06-22-2008 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
its really so much better than two guys just reading from their notes, hearing the comments and at the same time seeing what is being described is much more informative and takes full advantage of the medium.


The goal is to analyze the races....and not specifically the horses. You want to encourage people to think about how they structure their bets and you can arrive at that by disecting individual races or race sequences.

ELA 06-22-2008 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
All of a sudden there is a bunch of people that are in communications and know everything about being on TV.

LOL. Good one.

Eric

SCUDSBROTHER 06-22-2008 09:37 PM

On one of your shows, did Andy Beyer ever say that Curlin was gunna run about 19th in the Kentucky Derby? If he did, then was he being serious?


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