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jwkniska 06-12-2008 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
am i the only one giving grasshopper a decent shot at winning this... i remember a few years ago mineshaft went down in this race at very short odds to perfect drift... i just think grasshopper's last 2 were totally out of his game, 1 mile and sloppy.... could be sitting on something huge

I totally agree.

jcs11204 06-12-2008 08:13 PM

i have been looking at this pick 6 all day, i have a little something together, i am going to post it, if anyone thinks i have missed anything please tell me, nothing is set yet, still have 2 days left, but just a idea of what i like so far....

hockey2315 06-12-2008 08:13 PM

I thought you were taking a break?

jcs11204 06-12-2008 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315
I thought you were taking a break?

i am

jcs11204 06-12-2008 08:19 PM

i am taking friday tomorrow off, and saturday im putting in 1 play, the pick 6 at churchill, i appreciate 6 stakes races.

jcs11204 06-12-2008 08:23 PM

hockey what have i missed ?

5/3,4,6/1,2,7/4,6,7/1,5/3,6,9

Coach Pants 06-12-2008 08:24 PM

paint chips and trying to beat Curlin....hmmm.

jcs11204 06-12-2008 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
paint chips and trying to beat Curlin....hmmm.

when else would you suggest trying to beAT him ?

jcs11204 06-12-2008 08:28 PM

does brass hat have a shot ? im reading this article on drf.com and BYRON KING likes him and barcola, barcola being a price play

Coach Pants 06-12-2008 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
when else would you suggest trying to beAT him ?

I don't know. I guess it makes sense to people who like to chase their money.

jcs11204 06-12-2008 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
I don't know. I guess it makes sense to people who like to chase their money.

do you have a opinion on the race ? or do you just talk **** ?
do you have a serious opinion on anything, or do you just put up pics, and dumb **** all the time

NTamm1215 06-12-2008 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
does brass hat have a shot ? im reading this article on drf.com and BYRON KING likes him and barcola, barcola being a price play

If Byron King likes Barcola and you don't you should thank your lucky stars.

NT

jcs11204 06-12-2008 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
If Byron King likes Barcola and you don't you should thank your lucky stars.

NT

lol
im not that familiar with byron king, i just got the drf plus, so i have been reading a lot more, but is he good ?

NTamm1215 06-12-2008 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
lol
im not that familiar with byron king, i just got the drf plus, so i have been reading a lot more, but is he good ?

Far be it for me to be the authority on it, but in my opinion, no, he's not good.

Steve Klein was always enjoyable when it came to Kentucky racing but he is now involved on a much more limited basis and was actually last seen doing analysis for south/southwestern racetracks.

I believe I've narrowed the amount of DRF writers I make sure to read down to one- CRIST.

NT

jcs11204 06-12-2008 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
Far be it for me to be the authority on it, but in my opinion, no, he's not good.

Steve Klein was always enjoyable when it came to Kentucky racing but he is now involved on a much more limited basis and was actually last seen doing analysis for south/southwestern racetracks.

I believe I've narrowed the amount of DRF writers I make sure to read down to one- CRIST.

NT

thank you

Coach Pants 06-12-2008 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
do you have a opinion on the race ? or do you just talk **** ?
do you have a serious opinion on anything, or do you just put up pics, and dumb **** all the time

:zz:

Look you're ice cold right now, kid. You're better off using the money you would lose betting against Curlin and hiring a detective to find out if your ex is banging the New York Knicks.

jcs11204 06-12-2008 08:54 PM

[quote=Coach Pants]:zz:

Look you're ice cold right now, kid. You're better off using the money you would lose betting against Curlin and hiring a detective to find out if your ex is banging the New York Knicks.

low blow friend...
i will remember that one

Coach Pants 06-12-2008 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204

low blow friend...
i will remember that one

I'm not your friend, buddy.

NTamm1215 06-12-2008 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
:zz:

Look you're ice cold right now, kid. You're better off using the money you would lose betting against Curlin and hiring a detective to find out if your ex is banging the New York Knicks.


Has there been a switcheroo to his ticket cause it looks like he has Curlin in there right now. I'm assuming it originally did not include Curlin.

NT

jcs11204 06-12-2008 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
Has there been a switcheroo to his ticket cause it looks like he has Curlin in there right now. I'm assuming it originally did not include Curlin.

NT

no i would never leave him out of a pick 6.... no switch yet... there might be from now till race day though

jcs11204 06-12-2008 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
I'm not your friend, buddy.

ok then

Coach Pants 06-12-2008 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
Has there been a switcheroo to his ticket cause it looks like he has Curlin in there right now. I'm assuming it originally did not include Curlin.

NT

It's a silly ticket to begin with and it's doubled by not singling Curlin. The guy obviously likes to lose money or is completely BS'ing on what he posts here.

NTamm1215 06-12-2008 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
It's a silly ticket to begin with and it's doubled by not singling Curlin. The guy obviously likes to lose money or is completely BS'ing on what he posts here.

Ah- understood. Thanks.

NT

jcs11204 06-12-2008 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
It's a silly ticket to begin with and it's doubled by not singling Curlin. The guy obviously likes to lose money or is completely BS'ing on what he posts here.

why would i single a horse who is vulnerable ? my single is in the first leg.

ateamstupid 06-12-2008 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
I'm not your friend, buddy.

I'm not your buddy, guy.

jcs11204 06-12-2008 09:04 PM

when you single a horse, isen't it because you think the horse is a lock, or most likely to win.... i think hystericalady is that... the fact that thats the first leg makes it even better. i dont think curlins a lock, and think grasshopper is a real threat, and a horse who could make the pick 6 pay tons

blackthroatedwind 06-12-2008 09:06 PM

In cyberspace children should remain unseen and unheard.

Coach Pants 06-12-2008 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
why would i single a horse who is vulnerable ? my single is in the first leg.

Are you kidding me? He'll have to bounce like Pamela Anderson's boo bee's in the Baywatch intro in order to lose this race AND the rest will have to run a career race to beat him off of a bounce.

It's just silly, to me, to not single this horse in what looks like on paper an extremely chalky Pick 6 sequence.

By the way...is there a guarantee on the pick 6? If not, it's insane to play that ticket.

NTamm1215 06-12-2008 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Are you kidding me? He'll have to bounce like Pamela Anderson's boo bee's in the Baywatch intro in order to lose this race AND the rest will have to run a career race to beat him off of a bounce.

It's just silly, to me, to not single this horse in what looks like on paper an extremely chalky Pick 6 sequence.

By the way...is there a guarantee on the pick 6? If not, it's insane to play that ticket.

That is an excellent post. I can't help but think there are going to be a minimum of four favorites in this sequence. Hystericalady lays over the Fleur de Lis field, Pure Clan may be vulnerable, Recapturetheglory is going to be very tough, Curlin is an 8 length winner if he's himself, and Dreaming of Anna has once again drawn a field where she is the only real pace presence.

I will say there's one favorite who I'm dying to bet against, if the public is willing to make him the favorite- TIZDEJAVU.

NT

hockey2315 06-12-2008 09:57 PM

Pillow's right - unless there's a guaranteed pool or a big carryover it makes no sense to play a PK6 at Churchill. . .

ArlJim78 06-12-2008 10:06 PM

i will enjoy watching these races, however i don't plan to wager even a dollar on this card.

Clip-Clop 06-13-2008 07:12 AM

Big Brown is NO Curlin, that is for sure.

blackthroatedwind 06-13-2008 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
i will enjoy watching these races, however i don't plan to wager even a dollar on this card.

I had to look at some of these races for DRF and thought Delightful Bet might be an interesting horse at a price to try to make money with below Curlin in exactas and/or tris. It might be a reach, but honestly, who is really reliable or that good other than Curlin? Delightful Bet ran a couple of decent races, albeit against very suspect company, and his return was excusable. It poured not long before his comeback and a random horse ended up wiring the field. All things considered it wasn't a dreadful return. There's plenty of bad speed in the Foster and he could be one of the few running at the end besides the favorite.

blackthroatedwind 06-13-2008 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
i will enjoy watching these races, however i don't plan to wager even a dollar on this card.

I had to look at some of these races for DRF and thought Delightful Kiss might be an interesting horse at a price to try to make money with below Curlin in exactas and/or tris. It might be a reach, but honestly, who is really reliable or that good other than Curlin? Delightful Kiss ran a couple of decent races, albeit against very suspect company, and his return was excusable. It poured not long before his comeback and a random horse ended up wiring the field. All things considered it wasn't a dreadful return. There's plenty of bad speed in the Foster and he could be one of the few running at the end besides the favorite.

swedejxn 06-13-2008 07:43 AM

While handicapping look to the west.... severe storms trekking across Missouri and Illinois... will be in Indiana by lunch ... spreading into Ohio and Kentucky.... Heaviest stuff around the Spires after midnight... up to an inch of rain possible... They do great work with the dirt... but the turf may be iffy...

SentToStud 06-13-2008 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I had to look at some of these races for DRF and thought Delightful Kiss might be an interesting horse at a price to try to make money with below Curlin in exactas and/or tris. It might be a reach, but honestly, who is really reliable or that good other than Curlin? Delightful Kiss ran a couple of decent races, albeit against very suspect company, and his return was excusable. It poured not long before his comeback and a random horse ended up wiring the field. All things considered it wasn't a dreadful return. There's plenty of bad speed in the Foster and he could be one of the few running at the end besides the favorite.

I like D Kiss as well as High Blues to a lesser extent underneath. Hard to pass the race with Einstein and Brass Hat pretty likely 3rd/4th favorites and taking a lot of ex/tri pool action. Maybe Grasshopper runs a pretty good race but he'll likely have to work a bit to pass one or more of the three he figures to be behind.

Storm Cadet 06-14-2008 11:20 AM

No broad cast TV today on the CD card???

Danzig 06-14-2008 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop
Big Brown is NO Curlin, that is for sure.

true, he did finish ahead of a gutty filly.

Bobby Fischer 06-14-2008 02:09 PM

Is Borel Injured?

Brass Hat switch to William Troilo.

ArlJim78 06-14-2008 02:13 PM

yeah, Borel was injured. I didn't catch what was wrong but he's off all mounts.


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