nice..real nice

lol what ?

So you are bashing Exotic Bashing cause it doesn't work while not even trying the A-B-C-X method on your Pick 4s?

wowow.. im not bashing anything

...but bashing Exotic Bashing is what the cool kids are doing.

You still haven't addressed my suggestion that you're betting mainly for action.

im not... i like the action, of course i do, but i bet to win money, and latley, i have been losing more then winning.

You admitted that you "never want to get knocked out early".. What's the difference between getting knocked out early and getting knocked out late?

i dont know ? there is no difference at all i guess .
help me

That's the best I can do for ya dude.

im going to read the book again, and just slow down a lot

Look if you apply Crist's Alphabet method then you might as well buy Dave Ramsey's book if you're opinion is bad to begin with.

I would keep doing exactly what you are doing now, and double up - you're getting close to a HUGE score, and you don't want to be thin when it hits - PS - the Giant's Causeway angle is fierce...I wouldn't have given that out on the internet if I were you

The book isn't going to do anything else for you if you're not honest with yourself about your goal.

[quote=jcs11204]i dont know ? there is no difference at all i guess .
help me[/QUOTE]

Joe,
You should just stop. A while back you sent me a sad message about how your parents died in a car crash and how despite inheriting $12,000,000 you were still unhappy.

Instead of making up internet stories about your sad ass self you should do something positive for yourself to fix whatever ails you.

If you do have kids, there is nothing that says that just because their mother doesn't love you cannot be a good father.

Whatever your true story is, grow up, you whiny little phuck.

yeah, pick one race as a single. then go 2 deep on one race and all in the race with the biggest favorite. thats how i hit the pic on the belmont. J BE K , Out of control/dancing forever, ALL. betting a straight one for 250 with chalk is the dumbest bet i've heard of. the idea is to raid the pool. i hit the birdstone one 4 years ago, but i actually liked him. its hard to hit 3 winners in a row, if your trying to collect 60.00 dollar pics, do something else .

[quote=SentToStud]very touching advice

my goal is to make money... only goal, i enjoy the sport, i look at pp's even when i dont bet, go to drf.com everyday, but the goal is to make money

If that were true, then you wouldn't be constantly frontloading your tickets just to stay alive through the early legs.

im not going to anymore.

Awesome. Glad you were able to change your wagering goal so quickly. :rolleyes:

[quote=SentToStud]
OMG!

no kidding, i told you how earlier. do you think i work? the idea in the pics is to raid the pool. i told you before. if you had pics with Big Brown singled. you are doing what everyone is doing. if he wins the pic is like 58 bucks. i had that, but i also had an all ticket. the obvious is for folks that don't cash big tickets. i'm giving away secrets here , i should write a book!

A book on redboarding

yeah, seriously, i hit pic 3's. and i had that one saturday. how many of these folks had it? did you ? the kid wants to know how to hit them. i just told him how. i had the birdstone one vs smarty jones too. you have to have at least one single, a race with a couple and a race with all or alot of the entries. i chase big ones not anything
thats obvious. i don't make any money unless i win .

call it what you want , he asked, i need people in the pool that love horses like Big brown. i laugh at most public handicappers. they willl give you mostly chalk all day. guess what, the chalk wins 1 out of 3, this game does not take a genius, it takes imagination. i'm 45 and retired are you ?

I can run a 4 minute mile.

Are you Todd "ALL-SINGLE-ALL" Schrupp?

That rocks the hizzle on many levels

Ok well I just finished up “Not by a long shot” by td thornton, thought it was a great book (even though he kinda floats out to left field with some of his paragraphs).
Heading to vegas next month and I figured I’d try to hone my “handicapping” skills a little.

Exotic Betting is #1 on my list, but I don’t wanna order only 1 book from BN.com, might as well get a few, but nothing is really jumping out at me. Here are some others I was thinking about

Handicapping the Wall Street Way by Mark Ripple
Value Betting at the Racetrack by David Johnson
Expert Handicapping, Revised Edition by Dave Litfin
Bet With the Best II by Daily Racing Form (I have read volume 1)
Best of Thoroughbred Handicapping by James Quinn
Handicapping for Bettor or Worse by John Lindley
Handicapping Contest Handbook by Noel Michaels

If anyone has any feedback on any of those I would really appreciate it. Thanks in advance

-bt-

I read the handicapping contest book and it was ok. I got a couple of little things out of it. I guess if you are going into enter a lot of contests it might be worth while. If you aren't it's probably a waste.
I also tried honing my skills a bit by taking a little reading refresher course. I read exotic betting and thought I got alot out of the book. Then I read handicapping 101 by Brad Free. Sure there was alot of things that I understood already. But there were some other things that I thought I got out of the book. Mainly in the speed and class areas. Also I will look at firsters different now. They were both informative and quick easy reads. Now if I could find a book on how to get me out of the house for the weekend, I would be in good shape.

anything by quinn is good

i recomend

'the psychology of the winning horseplayer'

by tom hagerty

and the 'handicappers condition book' by quinn

and beyer on speed

gl hooves

thanks for the help:)

i was on amazon.com and also caught a glance of this one, which i've never seen before:

The Tuttle Way: Applied Methodologies On "How To" Interpret The Racing Form From A Winning Horseplayer by Joseph J Tuttle (Paperback - May 14, 2008)

** seems like this tuttle guy has a couple books out there and they seem to get solid reviews

-bt-