This actually gets me in trouble when I do shows about races....I honestly don't know a lot of horses' names. It's not a problem when it's a simple name but when it's the least bit complicated, and I haven't learned it, I end up embarrassing myself.

I have the same problem with jockeys, as I never know who's riding the horses I like and/or bet, as pretty much I consider them as important to my handicapping as the horses' names.

PPs as presently presented are outdated. Is looking at each horse's races individually the best way to go? I mean, where's the important part, the CONTEXT of the race. And, as most handicappers are 'numbers' oriented, I don't expect things to change much in the near future. To me, they're basically useless.

So Evening Attire is finished...

Imawildncrazyguy is too cheap and slow...

who is winning the Brooklyn?? This race could be the key to getting some brown money with that double. It may also have value of it's own.

Is Sightseeing a toss?

They're basically just a reference point. You use them to know where to go to disect a horse's races.

You did!! I must have missed that one
:rolleyes:

Here's a suggestion for DRF (or any of the data providers); and this applies only for the ONLINE version:

combine a graphical history of each horse's races with other relevant textual data (workouts, breeding, etc.)

I know I'd buy something like this (assuming the data would be just a bit more accurate, of course)

This would, among other things, let us actually see the 'form cycle' of horses that all the numbers guys are constantly referring to.

This would go a long way towards 'revolutionizing' handicapping.

still trying to make sense of the Brooklyn.

Theres a romantic notion that Sightseeing is going to relish the distance, and his too-little-too late style and cool trainer will win out. I just don't see it.

Nite Light , Delosvientos and Angliana are my contenders.

That because they don't let your type in Siros:cool:

Was that when I was Dan Illman?

If they let you in, they'll let anyone in. :D

:p

Good point:o

No mention of Moral Compass? Coming off of a win (not many in here with that on their records), a close 3rd in a G3 stakes before that, and ran well on yeilding turf at 2.

That said, this is a one-turn mile, not unlike the Woodbine races of Prussian, so this may be just up his alley. Don't overlook Dynhocracy, who has run well in previous turf races and whose his pedigree (Spend a Buck over Dynaformer) says he should be improving as he grows up. But 8f may be too short for him; his great-grandmummy Persian Tiara loved to beat up on the guys over marathon distances. I watched her win the 13f Seneca H-G3 at Saratoga in heavy ground back in the day.

I guess if he is finished they should retire all those young the horses that finished behind him.:)

actually evening attire finished stronger than anyone in the field.
the winner was almost walking at the wire.

:D

Congrats!

Okay, my horses were 2nd and 3rd. Story of my life. At least they beat Hatta Fort.:D

Is this redboarding?

Gio Ponti was a stickout against these horses. Had you played it correctly, you'd have hit the triple.

ALmost there.

This is redboarding

Check your facts.

It isn't.

He liked Gio Ponti. Doesn't take away the fact that he's a huge douchebag know-it-all blowhard.

Ahh...well apologies for missing it. Now I am upset that I missed out on such a great betting opportunity :rolleyes:

Another really nice race for Evening Attire...Congrats. Can't complain about 2nd in a grade 2 for a 10 year old.

He's had a few nice scores he's posted but it's just like for win only or some s.hit. He doesn't contribute anything in the way of pick 3 and pick 4. That wouldn't give him the opportunity to toot his own horn at the frequency he demands.

Does anyone else think Gio Ponti could be this year's BC Mile winner? If he can move forward with a kick like that... man...

He did look very good. Makes me wonder what might've been in the BC last year. . . He was my biggest bet of the weekend.

I think he's got a shot to win the Dubai Sheema. He probably doesn't have enough time to recover from this race in time for the BC mile.

I think it's a weak year for the BC Mile division, which puts him in the mix for sure.

Good Ba Ba said to say nah... :cool: :)