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TheSpyder 05-22-2008 01:02 PM

4
Music Note

4-6 exacta

Bobby Fischer 05-22-2008 01:03 PM

looking at something like an exacta 4 w 125

ateamstupid 05-22-2008 01:09 PM

Not much value on Music Note, but clearly much the best. She's got some turn of foot.

Bobby Fischer 05-22-2008 01:09 PM

by far the talent of the race

ArlJim78 05-22-2008 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
1) A Rose For You
2) Song Of Love
3) Better Again

I'm thinking Charming is not ready for this kind of race and I have my doubts about Music Note as well.

i agree that this is a real nice field for n1x on a thursday.

so its Music Note followed by charming. nice job!

hoovesupsideyourhead 05-22-2008 01:10 PM

ok this is how you do it... i was wrong good call..

tiggerv 05-22-2008 01:11 PM

Very impressive. Didn't expect that off the layoff.

Bobby Fischer 05-22-2008 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Not much value on Music Note

yea and they dumped all the late money on her.

ateamstupid 05-22-2008 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer
yea and they dumped all the late money on her.

Looks like "they" were right though. I could've ridden that winner.

the_fat_man 05-22-2008 01:15 PM

Song of Love was WHIPPED

EARLY and OFTEN

Staggered home. Big Brother would've been proud with that stretch run. Has he ever felt the sting of the whip EARLY TURN?

Bobby Fischer 05-22-2008 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Looks like "they" were right though. I could've ridden that winner.

yea. The layoff was really the only question. "would she be a little sluggish off the time off?". She was much the best in her debut, but got outrun. The 4 consecutive 3furlong drills were a good sign. Figures aside, nobody in the field has the ability to run with her maiden race in november.

the_fat_man 05-22-2008 02:02 PM

I'm looking at the trainer stats for the 5th race in the BRIS PPs.

So, Motion is 100%, 2 for 2, 1st time off the claim, with an ROI of 7.60.

Very nice. His filly is thus an UNDERVALUED 7:2, in a tough race.

Motion is also +0.22 running back off a 90+ day layoff. She hasn't raced in over 9 months.

ateamstupid 05-22-2008 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
I'm looking at the trainer stats for the 5th race in the BRIS PPs.

So, Motion is 100%, 2 for 2, 1st time off the claim, with an ROI of 7.60.

Very nice. His filly is thus an UNDERVALUED 7:2, in a tough race.

Motion is also +0.22 running back off a 90+ day layoff. She hasn't raced in over 9 months.

I don't get why you'd claim a horse and immediate give it a 9-month layoff unless something's seriously wrong.

the_fat_man 05-22-2008 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
I don't get why you'd claim a horse and immediate give it a 9-month layoff unless something's seriously wrong.

The assumption was that Motion straightened out her problems and she was ready to roll.

She ran a decent 3rd but my only point was that she was an underlay as a result of the trainer stats.

Bobby Fischer 05-22-2008 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer
Hopefully Unspoken Vow doesn't break in badly Again.

****, I called that one didn't I?

I couldn't catch the first few strides with my live feed, but I took time to see the head on, and he knocked the **** out of the 2 and the 1SongOLove. Knocked Song of Love off balance.

When you see a horse foul three or four times in its career, and then 2 of them are with CC Lopez(a "gate" jockey), and today he goes to Marragh you have to expect that. 2-1 that Marragh didn't even do the homework and know. If I had any horse draw inside that one in the future I would bitch like crazy. Outside and I let these suckers do their own homework.

This is rediculous. How many times can this horse foul up the start of races before someone notices?

It obviously had no effect on the win, and highly unlikely that it had any effect on the exacta. Pretty tough filly, for an average talent, and maybe some problems= that Better Again.

Debateable if that smash had any effect on Song Of Love hitting the tri or super. It wasn't the way you want to start a race that's for sure.



i like how the chart says Unspoken Vow "was bumped".

as if another horse bumped her.

DNF
Hopefully she was completely healthy and runs back in 2 weeks post position #2

VOL JACK 05-22-2008 11:39 PM

Music Note 97 BSF

blackthroatedwind 05-22-2008 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK
Music Note 97 BSF

It would be nice to see her square off against Proud Spell in the Mother Goose.

ateamstupid 05-23-2008 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK
Music Note 97 BSF

Thanks Jack. I figured it'd be in the mid-90s.

parsixfarms 05-23-2008 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK
Music Note 97 BSF

I will qualify this comment by saying that I thought Music Note looked like a legitimate Grade I filly yesterday, but this figure seems a bit high in comparison to other races yesterday (although I'm sure the card was a figure-maker's nightmare, given the weather conditions).

Very modest NY-breds in the 4th race went a mile in 1:36.4, exactly one second slower than Music Note ran a half-hour earlier (although there was a rain squall). What was the figure assigned to Rodeo Hand? Normally, I'd expect something in the mid-70s, but if Music Note was assigned a 97, then he should be in the mid-80s. Just wondering.


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