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Scav 04-16-2008 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Great job so far folks! It's chalky but we've got plenty still alive..

Rootdog1, swedejxn, Heels1989, stonecutter, Gate Dancer, Lava, jcs11204, dylbert. Hope some of you folks played it.

Depends on what they are going to do with late scratch, still no 100% confirmation on what happens in the P6, although it might be reaching that you got the favorite. You would think they would have given time to change tickets instead of just going full bore...

jcs11204 04-16-2008 03:38 PM

good luck everyone on these last 2

FGFan 04-16-2008 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Depends on what they are going to do with late scratch, still no 100% confirmation on what happens in the P6, although it might be reaching that you got the favorite. You would think they would have given time to change tickets instead of just going full bore...

They said on TVG, Frank M., that it is a refund only at Kee, it does not move to the favorite. So unless you played the 7 you don't get it with the late scratch. Going to affect a lot of tickets.

I am playing at home based on the contest, but like some I'm superstitious to post my picks. Live so far but I'm sure I'll get beat in the last 2.

Scav 04-16-2008 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by FGFan
They said on TVG, Frank M., that it is a refund only at Kee, it does not move to the favorite. So unless you played the 7 you don't get it with the late scratch. Going to affect a lot of tickets.

I am playing at home based on the contest, but like some I'm superstitious to post my picks. Live so far but I'm sure I'll get beat in the last 2.

So only at Keeneland meaning LIVE or meaning the only track to do it?

FGFan 04-16-2008 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
So only at Keeneland meaning LIVE or meaning the only track to do it?

What....:confused:

ateamstupid 04-16-2008 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
So only at Keeneland meaning LIVE or meaning the only track to do it?

"Refund only" is what he meant, I believe.

Bigsmc 04-16-2008 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
"Refund only" is what he meant, I believe.

No refund...

ateamstupid 04-16-2008 04:21 PM

So what the hell? Do you get the post time favorite or not?

Rootdog1 04-16-2008 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rootdog1
Contest Ticket

4)1,7,10
5)1,3,9
6)3,4
7)4,6,7
8)3,6,8
9)1,2,3,4,5,6
$1,944

5 0f 6 cause I left off the Alwajeeha like a big dummy

Congrats to all those that hit today.

Bigsmc 04-16-2008 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
So what the hell? Do you get the post time favorite or not?

Apparently so. I had the 2 in the 4th and got no refund.

ateamstupid 04-16-2008 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Lava
4)2,4,7,10
5)1,9
6)3,4,5,9
7)6,7
8)1,8,9
9)5,6,7,8

$1536

Heck of a 'capping job, Lava! $18,000+!!!

Heels1989 04-16-2008 04:24 PM

Great job Lava.

Bigsmc 04-16-2008 04:25 PM

Nice work Lava.

jcs11204 04-16-2008 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rootdog1
5 0f 6 cause I left off the Alwajeeha like a big dummy

Congrats to all those that hit today.

same exact thing for me

jcs11204 04-16-2008 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Heck of a 'capping job, Lava! $18,000+!!!

nice one...

pmacdaddy 04-16-2008 04:34 PM

Nice work Lava!

Kasept 04-16-2008 04:45 PM

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FGFan 04-16-2008 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
So what the hell? Do you get the post time favorite or not?

I just went and looked it up. Should have known NOT to listen to TVG.
This is from Kee site on rules dated 3/25/08:

Pick 6:
    1. a. In the event of a late scratch after Pick 6 wagering has concluded, the bettor receives the actual post time favorite as evidenced by the amount wagered in the win pool at the time of the start of the race.
    2. b. In the unlikely event the condition of the turf course warrants a change in racing surface, see "c" above.
So yes it does go to favorite at Kee, there would have been no confusion without TVG.

Congrats to LAVA...that's great. Alweeja got me too, should have listened to Hooves he had it in his selections. Had the 6 and the 1 but no 9.




cassie 04-16-2008 04:47 PM

congrats lava ////

mclem10011 04-16-2008 04:49 PM

Great Job!
 
Well done Lava!

Rootdog1 04-16-2008 04:52 PM

congrats lava

Scav 04-16-2008 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by FGFan
I just went and looked it up. Should have known NOT to listen to TVG.
This is from Kee site on rules dated 3/25/08:

Pick 6:
    1. a. In the event of a late scratch after Pick 6 wagering has concluded, the bettor receives the actual post time favorite as evidenced by the amount wagered in the win pool at the time of the start of the race.
    2. b. In the unlikely event the condition of the turf course warrants a change in racing surface, see "c" above.
So yes it does go to favorite at Kee, there would have been no confusion without TVG.

Congrats to LAVA...that's great. Alweeja got me too, should have listened to Hooves he had it in his selections. Had the 6 and the 1 but no 9.




It wasn't concluded....

ateamstupid 04-16-2008 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
It wasn't concluded....

If you bet the 2 or the 3, you got through the leg.

Bigsmc 04-16-2008 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
It wasn't concluded....

That is correct.

FGFan 04-16-2008 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
That is correct.

So the confusion continues.
Didn't you say you didn't get refunded? Is it a consolation?
When they put the P6 #'s up it said 2,3,7 for that leg.
Someone has to have the answer, not that I have a dog in this I'm just confused.

Bigsmc 04-16-2008 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FGFan
So the confusion continues.
Didn't you say you didn't get refunded? Is it a consolation?
When they put the P6 #'s up it said 2,3,7 for that leg.
Someone has to have the answer, not that I have a dog in this I'm just confused.

They obviously gave the people with the 2 & 3 the favorite.

The problem lies with their website stating that after the wagering closes you get the favorite. So, I read that as any late scratches in the 4th race get you refunded and any late scratches in the 5th through 9th races gets you the post time favorite.

When the 2 & 3 scratched out of the 4th, the wagering was still open.

They and every other jurisdiction, just need to be crystal clear when they are posting scratch rules on their website. It's yet another thing that can turn off the casual fan. The different wagering rules from track to track and vagueness in their posted rules for wagering. It is low on the list of problems, but it is a problem.

ateamstupid 04-16-2008 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
They obviously gave the people with the 2 & 3 the favorite.

In which case, didn't Lava hit twice?..

Bigsmc 04-16-2008 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
In which case, didn't Lava hit twice?..

Absolutely!

ateamstupid 04-16-2008 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
Absolutely!

Corrected. Another congratulations to Lava!

3kings 04-16-2008 05:43 PM

Congrats Lava, nice hit.

hoovesupsideyourhead 04-16-2008 05:58 PM

nice lava...good playing......

herkhorse 04-16-2008 06:25 PM

Nice one Lava!

declansharbor 04-16-2008 07:43 PM

Nice work Lava!!

Lava 04-16-2008 08:14 PM

Thanks guys wish I had the money to play the ticket for real.:D

mm1019 04-16-2008 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Lava
Thanks guys wish I had the money to play the ticket for real.:D

Great job

Kasept 04-17-2008 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Lava
Thanks guys wish I had the money to play the ticket for real.:D

Lava..

Just getting a chance to spend a few minutes catching up and wanted to say congratulations on a fabulous job of structuring winning plays. As when BTW started the concept of these exercises, the idea is to show how difficult it is to accomplish P6 hits with minimal investment. Whether you play the 4 figure tickets or not isn't the point as much as helping players hone their winner identification and ticket building skills. Yesterday's KEE skien showed once again that even when there aren't $20+ horses in a sextet, it's a paramount challenge to string the winners together and the payoffs are still grand...

Please send me your address, etc. so I can send you out a DT prize.. Very proud of how many here continue to negotiate these carryover cards with increasing regularity as it seems a sign that many continue to improve with practice and will be more confident at a certain point to play live tickets. Congrats to all the AQU 6 knockout artists and 5/6 hitters as well... All winning players need to PM me too!

swedejxn 04-17-2008 10:14 AM

Nice selecting Lava

cassie 04-17-2008 10:31 AM

are you saying 5of 6 is a winner too had 5of 6 on both contests

Kasept 04-17-2008 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by cassie
are you saying 5of 6 is a winner too had 5of 6 on both contests

5 of 6 is indeed a winner... Think of it as one of those McDonald's minor prize winners though... Free fry or sundae kind of prize.. :p

Scav 04-17-2008 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Lava..

Just getting a chance to spend a few minutes catching up and wanted to say congratulations on a fabulous job of structuring winning plays. As when BTW started the concept of these exercises, the idea is to show how difficult it is to accomplish P6 hits with minimal investment. Whether you play the 4 figure tickets or not isn't the point as much as helping players hone their winner identification and ticket building skills. Yesterday's KEE skien showed once again that even when there aren't $20+ horses in a sextet, it's a paramount challenge to string the winners together and the payoffs are still grand...

Please send me your address, etc. so I can send you out a DT prize.. Very proud of how many here continue to negotiate these carryover cards with increasing regularity as it seems a sign that many continue to improve with practice and will be more confident at a certain point to play live tickets. Congrats to all the AQU 6 knockout artists and 5/6 hitters as well... All winning players need to PM me too!

Love the edit in "ALL NEED TO PM" :) Wasn't sure where you were going with it!!


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