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You should have been standing on the rail at Oaklawn and seen the head-on as Zenyatta and the rest of the field came charging down the stretch. We were between the 16th pole and the finish line and what a sight that was. She is a force to be reckoned with and my favorite horse in training.

Who said this, I think this is a HUGE advantage for the synthetic horses.

Horses that train over the synthetic seems to get alot from it, and when they get to these dirt courses, it is like running over pavement. I expect to use this angle heavily early in the Churchill meet coming up

Hystericalady can't beat Intangaroo on cushion....how would she beat Zenyatta, who is just as good on either surface?

I'm not sure I get it. Zenyatta runs 1:42.64 for 8.5 furlongs. Tiago runs 1:50.34 for 9 furlongs. Tiago/Heatseeker receive a 110 Beyer and Zenyatta receives a 104 Beyer. Is it simply because the Tiago race was hand timed and they threw the time out and it was in error?? That's what the DRF has on their site for Beyers for those races.

and now for the obvious
 

Zenyatta is beautiful.

I have really liked this horse from the first maiden race, after which I said to myself, "there is a stakes winner". I knew she was awesome but I thought she would have more trouble at Oaklawn with her running style against Ginger Punch. Oaklawn is not the place you want to be if you're going to be 10 lengths off of the pace heading into the far turn in a 1 1/16 mile race. that is unless you're a monster, which apparently she is. absolutely devasting win yesterday.

Horses that train on synthetic WITH STAMINA BUILDING moves 'get a lot from it'... Note that Tom because the standard half mile moves DON'T GET IT DONE..

Um, that's why I said I wanted to see them square off on the dirt.

You also said "On the cushion crap, who knows who is best"

It is certainly not Hystericalady. That's why I want to see them run on the dirt, facing off on the cushion means nothing since we know Hystericalady sucks on it. I was responding to someone asking if Zenyatta was the best filly in the country, the "who knows who is best" was in reference to whether or not she's the best on the cushion, not a comparison to Hystericalady.

I didnt see the figures yet but to point out on the Zenyatta race is the pace was slowish and closing into a slowish pace rarely provides a fast final time, and not sure but being 10 back with 3 furlongs to go at oaklawn with a slowish pace, well there may have been a handful of winners like that all meet...and certainly none were chasing ginger punch. It appears the Zenyatta really is not dependent on the pace, she can go whenever asked. I would not be surprised to see here creep closer to the pace as she gains experience.

Hystarical Lady is one of the most mismanaged horses in a while, she has some real talent yet has not been put in the best spots to show it....thing zenyatta though may be really good, she embarrassed last years champ like it was a mdn special event.

who won the fantasy ? play by play anyone ?
or am i to late ?

the fantasy is the next race in about 25 minutes

The final time of the Oaklawn Park Handicap has been corrected.

As you mentioned - there was an error with the timer (the opening quarter mile was posted in 41 seconds and change) and the race was hand timed.

I guess who ever came up with the 1:50.34 clocking when they first hand timed it got it wrong badly. They have the race almost two seconds faster now.

wowwowowowowow

what a race!!! wtg eight belles

she showed a new side today. went into the air a bit at the start, and last early. she wouldn't give up, and managed to catch alina. very nice.

i thought Alina might be dangerous with the field being so small. Eight Belles had to earn that one.

first fight she's had in a while, nice to see her dig in and keep trying. i enjoyed that one immensely!

oaks chalk ?

yeah, if she goes in the oaks.

Ramon had a big time hold on her down the backside. With the slow fractions going into the far turn I thought he'd let her run alittle more turning for home. The filly on the lead hit another gear and they all took off the wire.

We were on the rail at the finish line when they came by and I couldn't tell if Ramon pulled her head to the right to keep her from veering in or if she took a look at the crowd just before she hit the wire. I think we've got some pretty good pics from the race. I will post if they turned out OK...

what are you saying ?
and if your saying, what i think your saying...
what are her odds, there ? in between 15 and 20 -1

i think with the boys being as lackluster as they've been, that there is a very real chance she could go in the derby. i doubt rick porter put up the 6k just for fun.

Please run in the Ky Oaks and at least give me a chance at my first future book cash. Ive got Eight Belles in the first pool at i think 22-1...

maybe she will run in the oaks, but the other guy has a good point, the connections have to be thinking derby, and would she not be legit ? i'd say she has a chance.