I agree that it seems to come out, but I don't usually say things like that, and I overestimated how strong the field was. BB might be the only horse to go to the Derby from this race.....

If they send Smooth Jazz, it would be a disservice to the horse, because he ran out of gas going 9f, what will happen at 10f?

I'm not saying he will or wont win the derby, but i have a hard time saying horse has no shot at winning a race in 5 weeks after what he just ran. Of course he could come out of the race with a injury, he could not like the churchill track in training etc. It's not like hes going to be 3-5 in the derby.. There are still several grade 1 races left and at least one horse will step out and have a great race. If you dont want to use him in the derby thats fine, but im not tossing horses 5 weeks out.

$702.80 for a deuce.

Big Brown will have to buck the same trend that Curlin couldn't last year and that no other horse has since 90 years ago. I know I won't bet on it happening.

CHUCK HIM OUT!!!

The competition Curlin faced was also light years better than BB is facing. Not saying you don't have a point but I don't think it's reasonable to toss him based on it.

That was freaking awesome.

He won't be my Derby choice, but I'm not dumb enough to completely toss him.

Me either... Joey. I'm not sure how people can be tossing horses at this point anyway.

Wow.

And you're already talking about tossing him out? Will you be so sure if he comes out of this just fine and his connections continue to exude confidence right up to the Derby? I don't necessarily disagree with your logic, but I'm waiting and watching how things develop.

Will I use him on my tickets on May 3rd in L-ville? Sure. Do I think he's the winner? No chance, lance.

Looking forward to hearing how BB comes out of the Race...very impressive today but hard to imagine that the effort won't have taken a lot out of a horse who has foot problems....Dutrow didn't seem to want to take much time to talk with J Edwards right after the race...

I'll be interested to see the final fractions in particular.

you guys do know that no horse has ever come back sound and healthy after winning from the 12 post 9 furlongs GP main track

The race replay is up on Bloodhorse TCM page. Here's the link: http://tcm.bloodhorse.com/index.asp

1/4 22.76 11.28
1/2 45.83 11.46
3/4 1:10:08 11.68
1m 1:35:18 11.89
1 1/8 1:48:16 12.98

My take: Smooth Air looked good at top of stretch, then struggled a bit, but then got straightened out and was closing well and striding out - did have BB in his sights. Probably will get Derby distance fine.

Big Brown ran against nobody, with no real pressure, out front all by himself. Jock knew he had it in the middle of the turn. He was being wrapped up on the last 1/16 (as Smooth Air was indeed closing a bit) No question he'll get Derby distance easily. And he didn't look hard used at all.

Tomicito - may close into 3 or 4th in the Derby.

Times in 100ths: :22.76 :45.83 1:10.08 1:35.18 1:48.16

Which means by comparision, for what its worth BB would have beaten Shes All Eltish by 18 lengths. The race before was:

Times in 100ths: :24.35 :48.36 1:12.79 1:38.17 1:51.80

With all the talk about the girls beating the boys in times this year this puts another stamp on this race.

how many have come back unsound after winning from post 12 at 9f @gpx. ??? :cool:

Me either....few week's ago War Pass was the greatest, now him. Gonna make a great Derby playing against them! ;)

Exactly! Epic match up between two speed horses = BIG payoffs on everyone else.

Electrify is faster.

Big Brown ran a final time that yields a Beyer figure 33 points faster than the Bonnie Miss winner.

If upset winner She's All Eltish ran back to her 90 Beyer she ran last time, that puts Big Brown's figure at a Ghostzapper like 123.

However, it's obvious that the fairly moderate pace of the Bonnie Miss and the extremely fast pace of the Florida Derby had a big impact on the final times.

I just hit the pick 4. Should I act like a huge know-it-all douche right now?

Wowza, Man he was awsome! Is there a KY Derby Future board with him on it? I'm getting weak kneed on my Dennis of Cork wager.:confused:

Yes.

Good point.

is the track still drying out or is it completely dry from all that rain last week?

I'm not sure I should act like a douche. It paid a little lower than Big Brown's win. And I also posted exactly what I should bet.

I better wait and work on my douche skills. It just isn't cutting it this time.

I've stayed on the sidelines up until this point. Right now based on what I've seen this is the best 3 year old running.

It would be interesting to see what they did inbetween, because it was only what, 40 minutes until that last race??

and War Pass was a few weeks back.....four lifetime starts, just knows the front and Dutrow, good luck @ 2-1 or less in the Derby....this isn't your type of horse Pat!

Now I didn't say I'd bet him. But, that was an impressive performance.

;) he's a better, bet against

Believe your eyes. Smooth Air held on after being with the lead. He might get better with more distance, or at least hold on in the Derby. I like BB I liked Bellamy Road too.

I will hand time Electrify's race later.

They didn't post fractions for it.

altho he looked good, the rest of the field wasn't much. but it was better than many performances from some of the other supposed derby horses.
what can stop him? that horse is unsound as the dollar.

I just watched the replay, there were fractions. 3/4 time was nearly identical to the Fla Derby.

Nice job by the supe completely changing the track for the big race.

I thought for sure he'd fold in the stretch. I had a 2-12-all triple
and a 2-12-all-all dime super.