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hoovesupsideyourhead 03-01-2008 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
without the trip this time id make em 3-4th best..
hmmmmmmmmm

freddymo 03-01-2008 06:13 PM
Are you kidding me... Claim of the year

freddymo 03-01-2008 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
He didn't win man and you were right, but it's not like you liked the winner. Good call on him not being as good. It's a long year. he'll make a splash still. The winner was an allownace horse who Clement, who can train. Now Mitchell has him and he's a grade 1 winner? Doesn't seem plasible, but hey, Mitchell's been doing it for years.
Mitchell is either a genius or a criminal..Horse crushes a reasonable field of Grade 2 talent from 62 claimers.. hard to take this game serious sometimes

Indian Charlie 03-01-2008 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by freddymo
Mitchell is either a genius or a criminal..Horse crushes a reasonable field of Grade 2 talent from 62 claimers.. hard to take this game serious sometimes
Agreed. I mean, at least step him up in distance and class a little bit before winning a grade 1 after doing almost nothing but sprinting.

The biggest joke was that he was only 9/1.

ArlJim78 03-01-2008 06:20 PM
watch him come right back and win with Big Booster,
not impossible.

TitanSooner 03-01-2008 06:24 PM
was going to bet Tiago until this race.. thinking about betting Big Booster now..

33-1 ??

Coach Pants 03-01-2008 06:25 PM
I'd say Vladimir Syringe just took the magic baton...




just a guess.

King Glorious 03-01-2008 06:25 PM
The lines between claimers and stakes horses doesn't exist anymore. Used to be that there was a clear distinction. Not anymore. This winner was just running in claimers. The current favorite for the Big Cap was in optional claimers in November. The winner of the grade two at Gulfstream today is a claimer. The horse that finished second in the Stymie is a claimer.

freddymo 03-01-2008 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by King Glorious
The lines between claimers and stakes horses doesn't exist anymore. Used to be that there was a clear distinction. Not anymore. This winner was just running in claimers. The current favorite for the Big Cap was in optional claimers in November. The winner of the grade two at Gulfstream today is a claimer. The horse that finished second in the Stymie is a claimer.
Line between vitamin B12 and steriods doesn't exist anymore either... Give me a break King the Horse was an OK claimer... He just crushed a Grade 2 plus field.. Have a heart.

TitanSooner 03-01-2008 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
I'd say Vladimir Syringe just took the magic baton..
God I love that.

freddymo 03-01-2008 06:41 PM
Wow nice ride by Russell Baze..

TitanSooner 03-01-2008 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
I'm looking for Heatseeker to bring it home today.
Nice

ninetoone 03-01-2008 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
I'm looking for Heatseeker to bring it home today.

Nice call.

mclem10011 03-01-2008 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by freddymo
Wow nice ride by Russell Baze..
B-r-u-t-a-l

pick4 03-01-2008 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
Agreed. I mean, at least step him up in distance and class a little bit before winning a grade 1 after doing almost nothing but sprinting.

The biggest joke was that he was only 9/1.
I thought Ever a Friend was an underneath horse. I did not think he would destroy this field like he did. Chris Clement kept him to turf spriints last year and he ran well but I'm surprised he only ran him once at a mile or over.

He should not have been dropped in for a tag but it looks like the owner did not want him anymore. His original owner passed away and it looks like his wife does not share his enthusiam of owning racehorses as she has dropped a number of horses in for a tag since Peter Karches passed away.

my miss storm cat 03-01-2008 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
I'm looking for Heatseeker to bring it home today.
Very nice... congrats. :)

ArlJim78 03-01-2008 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
Very nice... congrats. :)
thanks mmsc, mclem and 9:1:cool:

Danzig 03-01-2008 07:59 PM
so i'm assuming well armed, who beat heatseeker last time out, is headed for dubai. they mentioned they were looking at one or the other a few weeks ago...

Danzig 03-01-2008 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
thanks mmsc, mclem and 9:1:cool:
good job jim!

AeWingnut 03-01-2008 08:17 PM
I liked Heat Seeker the previous race and laid off of him this time
so Jim
you're welcome
if I bet him he has a heart attack and dies

ArlJim78 03-01-2008 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by AeWingnut
I liked Heat Seeker the previous race and laid off of him this time
so Jim
you're welcome
if I bet him he has a heart attack and dies
thanks but i too have been following heatseeker for some time now, but this is the first time i cashed. last year when frankel had him i lost on him several times, then i backed off.
imagine how i felt when he won for hollendorfer at 30/1 and i didn't have a dime on him? so i started following him again especially with Bejarano. he's a decent horse i think.

miraja2 03-01-2008 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann
So instead of cheering at having a 14-horse field in a major race you grouse about the quality. Heads up, lads - 14-horse fields of the past contained questionable horses, too, who got real weight concessions (105 lbs vs 130 on the top-weight) to give them a shot. Not every SA Hcp winner has been one for the ages, either - do the names Azucar, Olhaverry, and Linmold ring any bells? Milwaukee Brew, who won this one twice (the first such dual winner who didn't have help from the stewards' room), didn't look like much, either, until he got to run 10f.

If you have a star, or two or three, you get a small field. If you don't have a star, you get a big field and an interesting betting contest. Be thankful for what you have, and shed a tear for the grand old Gulfstream Park H, once a 10f test of champions, like Round Table, Coaltown, Armed, Kelso, Pretense, Forego, etc., now merely a shadow of its former self.
I think you are basically right about this, but it wasn't always that way. In the 1979 Big Cap, Affirmed ran in an 8-horse field. I am pretty sure he was something of a star. As for field size in general, big fields are of course nice for betting, but as a fan, I would take the 4-horse field of the 1988 Big Cap (Alysheba, Ferdinand, Super Diamond, and Judge Angelucci) over the big field for the race today.

As for the winner, he does seem like at distances of 9f and up on synthetic, he is a pretty decent horse.

AeWingnut 03-01-2008 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
thanks but i too have been following heatseeker for some time now, but this is the first time i cashed. last year when frankel had him i lost on him several times, then i backed off.
imagine how i felt when he won for hollendorfer at 30/1 and i didn't have a dime on him? so i started following him again especially with Bejarano. he's a decent horse i think.
looking at my 9-12-1-2 ticket and thinking
expletive me
...I didn't get to see the race I bet it and left early.
was it even close

my miss storm cat 03-01-2008 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
thanks but i too have been following heatseeker for some time now, but this is the first time i cashed. last year when frankel had him i lost on him several times, then i backed off.
imagine how i felt when he won for hollendorfer at 30/1 and i didn't have a dime on him? so i started following him again especially with Bejarano. he's a decent horse i think.
I want to find the replay of his 3rd to George Washington. :)


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