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In no particular order (although my favorite is at the top):
Easy Goer Sunday Silence Silver Charm Skip Away Unbridled Barbaro Holy Bull Alysheba Victory Gallop Tabasco Cat Serena's Song Tiznow Thunder Gulch Winning Colors Xtra Heat A.P. Indy Favorite Trick Forty Niner Afleet Alex Curlin Point Given Go for Wand Summer Squall Real Quiet Bellamy Road (I know this one will baffle people, but if this horse had been able to stay sound, I believe he could have been a great one.) |
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got to give rags to riches a shout..winning the belmont and all
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I am not one of Smarty's biggest fans....but not even in the top 25? I would certainly take him over Summer Squall. |
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He is a must as far as I am concerned. |
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funny cide,sea hero ,pleasent tap ,freehouse,captain bodget
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He wouldn't be in my top ten, but I am a little shocked to not see him in a top 25. Truth be told, I thought about including Birdstone in my list but he was a last minute cut. I think he is one of the most underappreciated horses of the last decade. People act like his win that day was a complete fluke when really, on a dry track going 10f or beyond, he was a pretty good colt. But, let's not turn this thread into yet another one about that race. |
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Dinard bested an off the bench Best Pal twice leading up to the Derby (in two slowly rated races), but his season was cut short by injury. He returned the following winter at SA to get lit up by Olympio in the Malibu (by 9 lengths or so) and followed that up with a drubbing at the hands of Best Pal (in career form at the time) in the Strub Stakes. Both Dinard and Olympio never ran again after the Strub. Best Pal ran for about 10 more years. |
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This is very tricky because we must weigh TC races heavily, but after that how much weight. Obviously the BC... beating older horses... and then are we counting sprinters. So I stuck with the longer horses. And then the tough part about one or two great races and no more but good progeny, it all gets in the way. The order at the top I like, but after that move em around.
Spectacular Bid Point Given Affirmed Sunday Silence Skip Away Tiznow Smarty Jones Alysheba Real Quiet Silver Charm Thunder Gulch Easy Goer Unbridled AP Indy Alydar Holy Bull Curlin Funny Cide Hansel Afleet Alex pound away... |
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OOps. Excuse me for being old... and unable to read. |
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I probably would have spent all night adding horses if it were the past 30 years. :eek: |
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But for God's sake I was not around for WWI thanks alot. |
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The 70's were loaded. So I just happened upon 1977... If earlier I would have been in real trouble. What time is it? |
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You dont need to see anymore than that. That is the only good thing about being as old as I am. |
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If you are weighing TC races then how can you leave out Monarchos? I can't, and I couldn't stand the horse.
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i'm surprised nobody mentioned awesome again. i know he might not have accomplished as much as a 3yo as touch gold, but c'mon.
dinard was a monster before getting hurt. his win over best pal and apollo was a great race. did anyone list tiznow? not many horses debut as a 3yo and win HOY that same year. fupeg, when on his game, would beat most of the names i've seen on this list. well, at least a lot of them, if not most. indian charlie never got to prove how good he really was, but i feel he's definitely among the best on any of these lists. he kicked the crap out of some nice horses butt's in his limited time racing, including real quiet, artax and old trieste. unbridled on his day was pretty damn nice. king glorious was pretty awesome. |
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Dinard was not the same horse after his injury and if you want to hold his losses afterwards against him, that's fine. But it seems like you are making an effort to take away what he did do and in the winter of 1991, I don't think there was a better 3yo and Dinard was the favorite for the Kentucky Derby. |
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Considering the 3 gut busting stretch runs Dinard had to uncork in his final 3 preps (all resulting in close finishes...and probably the injury that forced him to the bench) its hard to say that the Derby was at his mercy, either. Best Pal ran his SA preps like a short horse rounding into form (sharp middle moves with an even finish). I wouldn't necessarily take his sharp second in the Derby as proof that Dinard would have been right there had he held together. |
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When you get to your 50's , the 30-40's all seems like easy street. Enjoy it while you can.
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That makes Hansel's inclusion on your list even more strange. |
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I agree on Tiznow and Unbridled. They were both on my list. |
Smarty Jones first 10 furlongs in the Belmont were fantastic. His last two furlongs have to be the most overrated in the history of the sport. The only reason he "showed so much heart" was cause Birdstone was running so damn slow. Imagine if you had a horse coming at the end just with solid closing fractions of 25.00 instead of 26.42. You then would have had that horse making up an extra ten lengths on Smarty in the stretch and it would have looked like they ran by him while he was standing still. Would anyone be talking about his heart then? I don't want to take anything away from the first 10 furlongs he ran in that race but this idea that he showed so much heart in the final two furlongs is nothing more than an optical illusion created by how slow Birdstone was also going.
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