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philcski 02-26-2008 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
I got to see about 2/3rds of last week's breezes, and one that looked nice to me was Hip 138, a Proud Citizen filly out of an American Chance mare. Richie mentioned Lion Heart and Speightstown, and there were colts by both that prospective buyers were talking about.. Hip 114 is Lion Heart via Deputy Minister mare VVS Flawless, and Hip 228 is the Speightstown from a Meadowlake mare.

And good luck today to Kenny Lejeune, who is training Aldebutante at Ocala. He has Hip 12, a Macho Uno filly named In the Evening, and Hip 95, an Officer filly, in the sale.

Saw a lot of the Speightstown yearlings last year and too my non-expert eye :o they looked FAST FAST FAST...

Payson Dave 02-26-2008 07:43 AM

I really need to get to the Holiday Inn Express in Chapel Hil ....

philcski 02-26-2008 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Payson Dave
I am trying to get to the Holiday Inn Express in Chapel Hil ....

LOL

post of the year nominee

freddymo 02-26-2008 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
When will all of this end? I mean as amusing as it all is, it's getting to be pretty desperate now isn't it?

I agree 100% percent... It's almost dare I say Abe like?

Coach Pants 02-26-2008 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
Who says that I won't?


kentuckyrosesinmay 02-26-2008 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Hip 114 is Lion Heart via Deputy Minister mare VVS Flawless, and Hip 228 is the Speightstown from a Meadowlake mare.

You're good...

blackthroatedwind 02-26-2008 10:48 AM

You're not.

kentuckyrosesinmay 02-26-2008 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
You're not.

Well, being that Hip #228 and Hip #114 were the horses that I was talking about without giving them away earlier to the board in this thread because Rupert Pupkin would have known which two I was talking about...well...

blackthroatedwind 02-26-2008 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
Well, being that Hip #228 and Hip #114 were the horses that I was talking about without giving them away earlier to the board in this thread because Rupert Pupkin would have known which two I was talking about...well...


Self awareness is not one of your strong suits.

kentuckyrosesinmay 02-26-2008 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Self awareness is not one of your strong suits.

According to you, I don't have any strong suits:)

freddymo 02-26-2008 10:59 AM

Andy there is a fine line between genius and insanity..

freddymo 02-26-2008 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
According to you, I don't have any strong suits:)


You should call DrugS and have a huge OBS Bowl party

kentuckyrosesinmay 02-26-2008 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Cardus
That's all I needed to know.

I'm booking my flight to Miami.

Good luck buying those two. Hope you have a couple of million to spare.

The last time I will ever talk about specific Hip Numbers on the board because I made a promise to someone that I wouldn't.

Coach Pants 02-26-2008 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
Good luck buying those two. Hope you have a couple of million to spare.

The last time I will ever talk about specific Hip Numbers on the board because I made a promise to someone that I wouldn't.

I'm sure Jesus wasn't listening.

kentuckyrosesinmay 02-26-2008 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
I'm sure Jesus wasn't listening.

I love Jesus, and he is always listening.

Oh yeah, and about the eight figures comment. I was tired and associated it with seven figures last night. You don't need eight figures to own a racehorse.

You can find graded stakes animals in the 75,000 to 100,000 range, and sometimes you will get lucky and will find some for less than that. I don't even think you need seven figures in the bank to spend. I think people that buy horses for millions are crazy because you can usually find horses that are better for much less.

Besides we all know what Maggie Moss did, and she was well off but not incredibly well off. It can be done.

Coach Pants 02-26-2008 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
I love Jesus, and he is always listening.

Next time you're driving you should let him take the wheel for a while.

Coach Pants 02-26-2008 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
I love Jesus, and he is always listening.

Oh yeah, and about the eight figures comment. I was tired and associated it with seven figures last night. You don't need eight figures to own a racehorse.

You can find graded stakes animals in the 75,000 to 100,000 range, and sometimes you will get lucky and will find some for less than that. I don't even think you need seven figures in the bank to spend. I think people that buy horses for millions are crazy because you can usually find horses that are better for much less.

Besides we all know what Maggie Moss did, and she was well off but not incredibly well off.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

She's primarily in the claiming game. We've been talking about sales. The average sale at Fasig-Tipton has been in the $160,000 range.

blackthroatedwind 02-26-2008 11:21 AM

If nothing else, one valuable lesson to be learned from this thread is how foolish it is to repeat what others tell you if you don't understand it.

blackthroatedwind 02-26-2008 11:21 AM

By the way, if someone can tell me what Hip #113 goes for I would appreciate it.

NoLuvForPletch 02-26-2008 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
By the way, if someone can tell me what Hip #113 goes for I would appreciate it.

If you are your computer, here is the link to watch it live:

http://207.232.119.242/livesales/fasigtipton/

Bigsmc 02-26-2008 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
as sad as it is entertaining.

Very.

blackthroatedwind 02-26-2008 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch
If you are your computer, here is the link to watch it live:

http://207.232.119.242/livesales/fasigtipton/


Thanks.

justindew 02-26-2008 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
If nothing else, one valuable lesson to be learned from this thread is how foolish it is to repeat what others tell you if you don't understand it.

Hey!

kentuckyrosesinmay 02-26-2008 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

She's primarily in the claiming game. We've been talking about sales. The average sale at Fasig-Tipton has been in the $160,000 range.

Still don't need eight figures in the bank. Seven figures would probably be needed though.

I don't care what sale the horse comes from. Sales don't make the horses runners. Expensive purchase prices don't make the horses runners. I just want a horse that can run, win races, and is worth more than it's original purchase price. I have seen 30,000 dollar horses have better workouts at sales than 500,000 dollar horses before. Of course, these 30,000 dollar horses were at sales like OBS April, not Fasig Tipton Calder.

I don't care if I own a claimer, a GI animal, a turf horse, a route horse...I don't care. I just want something that can run that earns more for me on the track than it's original purchase price. In other words, an animal that can pay it's own bills will stay in my stable. I'm in the game for the love of the horses and the sport. I'm not really getting into it to make money because so few make money at it. It would be great if I did, but I'm not expecting to.

kentuckyrosesinmay 02-26-2008 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
If nothing else, one valuable lesson to be learned from this thread is how foolish it is to repeat what others tell you if you don't understand it.

Don't understand what. And who is repeating anything? I am confused.

Coach Pants 02-26-2008 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
Still don't need eight figures in the bank. Seven figures would probably be needed though.

I don't care what sale the horse comes from. Sales don't make the horses runners. Expensive purchase prices don't make the horses runners. I just want a horse that can run, win races, and is worth more than it's original purchase price. I have seen 30,000 dollar horses have better workouts at sales than 500,000 dollar horses before. Of course, these 30,000 dollar horses were at sales like OBS April, not Fasig Tipton Calder.

I don't care if I own a claimer, a GI animal, a turf horse, a route horse...I don't care. I just want something that can run that earns more for me on the track than it's original purchase price. In other words, an animal that can pay it's own bills will stay in my stable. I'm in the game for the love of the horses and the sport. I'm not really getting into it to make money because so few make money at it. It would be great if I did, but I'm not expecting to.

You'd have better odds playing Mega Millions.

GBBob 02-26-2008 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
Still don't need eight figures in the bank. Seven figures would probably be needed though.

I don't care what sale the horse comes from. Sales don't make the horses runners. Expensive purchase prices don't make the horses runners. I just want a horse that can run, win races, and is worth more than it's original purchase price. I have seen 30,000 dollar horses have better workouts at sales than 500,000 dollar horses before. Of course, these 30,000 dollar horses were at sales like OBS April, not Fasig Tipton Calder.

I don't care if I own a claimer, a GI animal, a turf horse, a route horse...I don't care. I just want something that can run that earns more for me on the track than it's original purchase price. In other words, an animal that can pay it's own bills will stay in my stable. I'm in the game for the love of the horses and the sport. I'm not really getting into it to make money because so few make money at it. It would be great if I did, but I'm not expecting to.

Really?

that is a novel approach to ownership

sorry..tried to stay out of this because I don't know enough to participate, but...

kentuckyrosesinmay 02-26-2008 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
You'd have better odds playing Mega Millions.

No. All I need to do is have a good career, which is why I have been busting my ass at college.

kentuckyrosesinmay 02-26-2008 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
Really?

that is a novel approach to ownership

sorry..tried to stay out of this because I don't know enough to participate, but...

That's what everyone wants right? The problem is finding it...haha:)

GBBob 02-26-2008 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
Still don't need eight figures in the bank. Seven figures would probably be needed though.

I don't care what sale the horse comes from. Sales don't make the horses runners. Expensive purchase prices don't make the horses runners. I just want a horse that can run, win races, and is worth more than it's original purchase price. I have seen 30,000 dollar horses have better workouts at sales than 500,000 dollar horses before. Of course, these 30,000 dollar horses were at sales like OBS April, not Fasig Tipton Calder.

I don't care if I own a claimer, a GI animal, a turf horse, a route horse...I don't care. I just want something that can run that earns more for me on the track than it's original purchase price. In other words, an animal that can pay it's own bills will stay in my stable. I'm in the game for the love of the horses and the sport. I'm not really getting into it to make money because so few make money at it. It would be great if I did, but I'm not expecting to.

If you are serious about ownership someday, you HAVE to care about those things. They determine what you spend, where you spend it and who you spend it with. If you don't have a plan going in and stick to it, you are very likely to fail. Your shotgun...I love the game, where do I sign approach is naive

Coach Pants 02-26-2008 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
No. All I need to do is have a good career, which is why I have been busting my ass at college.

Yeah no extreme luck is involved. :rolleyes:

kentuckyrosesinmay 02-26-2008 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Yeah no extreme luck is involved. :rolleyes:

To be a racehorse owner?

Coach Pants 02-26-2008 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
To be a racehorse owner?

Jesustapdancingchrist.

kentuckyrosesinmay 02-26-2008 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Jesustapdancingchrist.

Sorry. Duuhhh, I'm being a little blonde this morning.

Everyone will pick on me for this statement...

philcski 02-26-2008 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
That's what everyone wants right? The problem is finding it...haha:)

Of course. But it's a lot tougher than you're making it out to be. Another person in this thread and myself own a couple two year olds we bought as yearlings, trained by yet another person in this thread. They were very modest prices, relative to what you COULD spend at the KEE Sept sales (about $20k each). By the time they hit the track, we will be $80k deep on these guys, which means even with statebred incentives (which, of course, was part of the "where do you spend" GBBob is referring to) we have maybe a 15% chance of recouping our investment.

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Originally Posted by GBBob
If you are serious about ownership someday, you HAVE to care about those things. They determine what you spend, where you spend it and who you spend it with. If you don't have a plan going in and stick to it, you are very likely to fail. Your shotgun...I love the game, where do I sign approach is naive

Exactly


Now where do I sign :o

Indian Charlie 02-26-2008 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
No. All I need to do is have a good career, which is why I have been busting my ass at college.

Post of the year!

Coach Pants 02-26-2008 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
Sorry. Duuhhh, I'm being a little blonde this morning.

Everyone will pick on me for this statement...

:(


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