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Coach Pants 01-26-2008 04:36 PM

War Monger dropped a nuclear bomb on that field.

pgardn 01-26-2008 04:37 PM

Someone needs to apologize to kent d.
He kept the horse out of trouble with a nifty little move so he would not get trapped on the rail.

MaTH716 01-26-2008 04:37 PM

I think that Rene Douglass grabbed a hot dog in the stretch, that's how wide he was!

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-26-2008 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
War Monger dropped a nuclear bomb on that field.

yes he did the 7 would have toasted him with the same trip

blackthroatedwind 01-26-2008 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
yes he did the 7 would have toasted him with the same trip


War Monger is for real. Soldier's Dancer is a nice horse.

I'll watch the race again but I think you need to be careful about equating these two horses.

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-26-2008 04:41 PM

good money after bad sa race 7 w/p 5

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-26-2008 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
War Monger is for real. Soldier's Dancer is a nice horse.

I'll watch the race again but I think you need to be careful about equating these two horses.

fair enough.........i was wrong again...im like whipping boy around here..lol

Coach Pants 01-26-2008 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
yes he did the 7 would have toasted him with the same trip

I doubt that. War Monger didn't exactly have a dream trip. Checked slightly on the backstretch.

blackthroatedwind 01-26-2008 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
fair enough.........i was wrong again...im like whipping boy around here..lol


Persecution complex?

It doesn't suit you.

Let me watch the race again. War Monger had a sweet trip....no doubt.

Scav 01-26-2008 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
fair enough.........i was wrong again...im like whipping boy around here..lol

No, that is my title, get a new one

the_fat_man 01-26-2008 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
War Monger is for real. Soldier's Dancer is a nice horse.

I'll watch the race again but I think you need to be careful about equating these two horses.

I've been following SD since last year. He teases, he makes IMPRESSIVE runs, YET, he never gets it done. In that stake down at CNL (that Red Giant won), for example, he had a clear inside run and HUNG like a dog.
I'm not doubting that he has ability but he's not running up to it, for whatever reason.

This is a case where experience/intuition needs to transcend the trip. They could rerun this race any number of times and WM still beats him and buries the field.

tiggerv 01-26-2008 04:52 PM

I got this chalky taste in my mouth

pgardn 01-26-2008 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man
I've been following SD since last year. He teases, he makes IMPRESSIVE runs, YET, he never gets it done. In that stake down at CNL (that Red Giant won), for example, he had a clear inside run and HUNG like a dog.
I'm not doubting that he has ability but he's not running up to it, for whatever reason.

This is a case where experience/intuition needs to transcend the trip. They could rerun this race any number of times and WM still beats him and buries the field.

Nope.
He easily could have gotten trapped.
I dont think you can make this statement
about a turf race like this.

Thank Kent. Watch the replay.

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-26-2008 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man
I've been following SD since last year. He teases, he makes IMPRESSIVE runs, YET, he never gets it done. In that stake down at CNL (that Red Giant won), for example, he had a clear inside run and HUNG like a dog.
I'm not doubting that he has ability but he's not running up to it, for whatever reason.

This is a case where experience/intuition needs to transcend the trip. They could rerun this race any number of times and WM still beats him and buries the field.

i dont think so

the_fat_man 01-26-2008 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
Nope.
He easily could have gotten trapped.
I dont think you can make this statement
about a turf race like this.

Thank Kent. Watch the replay.

Why do I need to thank KENT, Bro? Do I need to thank him for his ride two back on the horse? He didn't do anything special. After running behind horses on the BS he realized that he had to get out. Isn't that obvious to anyone with a brain?
Or are we assume that all these jocks are idiots?

pgardn 01-26-2008 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man
Why do I need to thank KENT, Bro? Do I need to thank him for his ride two back on the horse? He didn't do anything special. After running behind horses on the BS he realized that he had to get out. Isn't that obvious to anyone with a brain?
Or are we assume that all these jocks are idiots?

yes I guess we do.
they dont ride bikes enough.

Actually I kinda agree with you
about the idea though. I have always
thought they need to run a good 5K race
on their own so they understand.

There are any number of jocks that would sit
chilly on the rail and not make that move.
It was a good decision. But he did have a lot
of horse.

infield_line 01-26-2008 05:07 PM

Calling Dr. Phil....
 
all I know is that I normally look forward to betting Kent/Mott on turf, but on stakes days I look for any rationale to chase a price.... memo to self, the bigger the days, the more collective wisdom setting prices... market more efficent.

I/L

blackthroatedwind 01-26-2008 05:08 PM

I pretty much agree with the Fat Man. However, Soldier's Dancer did run very well. He had a dream trip until they came for home and that horse took him out of the race. He was very impressive to recover from that.

He's a war horse. He dances the dances and runs well most of the time. However, he's not as good as War Monger. I can understand the argument that in an isolated situation he ran a better race than War Monger did today. However, and maybe I'm wrong, I feel like all things being equal War Monger would beat him 4 out of 5 times.

Now, if they swapped trainers......

blackthroatedwind 01-26-2008 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man
Why do I need to thank KENT, Bro? Do I need to thank him for his ride two back on the horse? He didn't do anything special. After running behind horses on the BS he realized that he had to get out. Isn't that obvious to anyone with a brain?
Or are we assume that all these jocks are idiots?

Let me reiterate something I told some others.....when you quote him it defeats my purpose of having him on ignore.

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-26-2008 05:16 PM

sa race 8 pp 2 w/p and an ext box of 2/4/8

pgardn 01-26-2008 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Let me reiterate something I told some others.....when you quote him it defeats my purpose of having him on ignore.

He likes it on top.
So please do what he says.
Reminds me of a sophisticated Oracle.

so dont question him.
be good boys and do what he says.

If you say a jock screwed you,
give em credit for coming through
just every once in a while.

Dont think its quite as easy as it looks.

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-26-2008 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
He likes it on top.
So please do what he says.
Reminds me of a sophisticated Oracle.

so dont question him.
be good boys and do what he says.

If you say a jock screwed you,
give em credit for coming through
just every once in a while.

Dont think its quite as easy as it looks.

lol just for you andy,,,,,,,,:eek: :D

infield_line 01-26-2008 05:49 PM

BTW can take care of himself.....
 
what about my psychoanalysis......? :D 3,9,11 in the 9th

I/L

pgardn 01-26-2008 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
lol just for you andy,,,,,,,,:eek: :D

Actually I like reading his posts.
Very insightful.
Its just his head has its own gravitational field.
Massive.

blackthroatedwind 01-26-2008 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
lol just for you andy,,,,,,,,:eek: :D


I could put you on ignore as well.

Holland Hacker 01-26-2008 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I don't see anybody.

Super Call Andy.

My indebtedness to you continues to grow. Some day I will ABSOLUTELY have to buy you a cocktail.

I liked War Monger in the finale at GP, but with your vote of Confidence I played a small ticket for $ 2 and a large ticket for $1. I hit both.

My only regret was that I was going to play my AAAA for $5 but I only managed to pull the trigger for $2 ($16 ticket) while my spread was $80.

Oh well the lesson for today was to have some confience in my own picks.

Thanks again.

I'll either catch you at Siros or some where at Aqueduct at Belmont before than. When you go to the Big A where do you spend most of your time. I have never seen you there, I usualt hang in the Man O War room.

pmacdaddy 01-26-2008 07:01 PM

Good job HH. I'm very convinced that wieghted dollar plays are the way to go with pk4.

Now, if I could only learn to handicap...

Holland Hacker 01-26-2008 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmacdaddy
Good job HH. I'm very convinced that wieghted dollar plays are the way to go with pk4.

Now, if I could only learn to handicap...

You can definitely handicap. You have come up with some winners that I never would have.

I'm actually looking forward to getting together with you (and maybe our sons) at the Big A for the Wood Memorial in early April.

blackthroatedwind 01-26-2008 07:14 PM

Holland Hacker
 
I'm glad you won, but I'll reserve my bows for 5-1 shots I tout a month before a race that some dude halfway across the country tells me is lame ( not that such a thing could ever happen ), and not 9:5 shots.

My trips to Aqueduct are pretty infrequent and I usually hang out in Equestris. But, you know where to find me at Belmont. I'll be there in roughly three months.

pmacdaddy 01-26-2008 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holland Hacker
You can definitely handicap. You have come up with some winners that I never would have.

I'm actually looking forward to getting together with you (and maybe our sons) at the Big A for the Wood Memorial in early April.

Sounds like a plan...

pgardn 01-26-2008 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I could put you on ignore as well.

Oh no...not that.

Bobby Fischer 01-26-2008 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man
Who exactly is better than WM in this race?

Good Call

Whatever he says "carrys weight". Fat Man knows his ponies.

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-27-2008 12:23 AM

stop humping the fat man s leg dont you have some "show dutching" to do..

Coach Pants 01-27-2008 12:38 AM

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

pgardn 01-27-2008 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer
Good Call

Whatever he says "carrys weight". Fat Man knows his ponies.

Good Lord the horse was 9/5 and the favorite.
The field was big. So this was a huge
secret?

Still like reading the fat man also.
Good stuff.

blackthroatedwind 03-01-2008 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I'm all for it.

On another note.....how much will Barreling Home win his next race by?


Since King Glorious now feels all past posts should be brought back if they come to fruition......here's one for you.

hoovesupsideyourhead 03-01-2008 03:55 PM

i laughed..again..

the_fat_man 04-13-2008 05:58 PM

Bumping this thread as Don't Stop Dreamin' FINALLY ran back to her IDIOT TRIP and won at almost 4:1. And the exacta over the chalk was a very generous $44.00.

I write 'FINALLY' as she (curiously) had 2 dirt sprints since that last turf race. One of two possibilites:

1) the trainer was trying to obscure her form and get a price --- didn't happen (see above)

2) he's clueless


Let it not be said that this game doesn't make sense OR isn't fair. :rolleyes:


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