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my miss storm cat 01-21-2008 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance
Some nice entries for Thursday.

Dynamic Saint makes his first carnival appearance :)

L'amico Steve looks like he could take on at least one nice Godolphin horse in the shape of Boscobel and Al Shemali. Can the Brazilians do it again?

Then ofcourse we have Asiatic Boy in the last race, but can he cope with the drop back to six furlongs?

Yeah I was just looking.... Hard Top? I thought he was retired.

Nice to see Linngari entered, and Diabolical!

NoChanceToDance 01-21-2008 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
Yeah I was just looking.... Hard Top? I thought he was retired.

Nice to see Linngari entered, and Diabolical!

If Hard Top can win over ten furlongs, then I will eat my Kentucky Derby hat..... nearly said my Hard Spun hat, but that is a prized item :)

I must say, I was surprised to see him in the entries.

my miss storm cat 01-21-2008 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance
If Hard Top can win over ten furlongs, then I will eat my Kentucky Derby hat..... nearly said my Hard Spun hat, but that is a prized item :)

I must say, I was surprised to see him in the entries.

Please don't think I was saying he'd win.

Every year he's entered and every year I coulda sworn he was retired.

NoChanceToDance 01-21-2008 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
Please don't think I was saying he'd win.

Every year he's entered and every year I coulda sworn he was retired.

No, I never thought that at all. I was just making a sarcastic comment regarding the horse.

A very tricky customer, and he can look very slow.

I would have loved to have seen him over hurdles instead of in Dubai!

my miss storm cat 01-21-2008 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance

Is Curlin likely to show up for the gig, or is it currently in doubt?

Maybe someone else can give their opinion.

Here's today's rumor mill piece.....

http://jen-thoroughbreds.blogspot.co...en-tundra.html

my miss storm cat 01-22-2008 10:10 AM

Final field.....

Tropical Star (poor boy) had won this last year..... he died shortly after in a freak accident.

A photo of his win cause he was really something and i always associate this race with him.

http://carnivalblog.dubairacingclub....tent/Tstar.JPG

24 January 2008
Nad Al Sheba Racecourse


6 21:55 AL SHINDAGHA SPRINT SPONSORED BY MEYDAN 1200M(a6F) Dirt
For NH 4YO+ & SH 3YO+ Weight: SH 3YO 55kg. NH & SH 4YO+ 57.5kg

Rail Position: True Safety Limit: 16
Total Purse: 200,000 USD Group 3


1(1) VALIANCE (USA) K Shea
4yrs Ch C (258) M de Kock
95 57.5 Kg Saif Darweesh Al Bishri

26 (5-2-6)

2(2) SEA HUNTER (GB) R Ffrench
6yrs Bay H (7) A Al Raihe
100 57.5 Kg [V] [TT] HRH Princess Haya

19 (8-6-2)

3(3) DIABOLICAL (USA) L Dettori
5yrs Ch H (180) S bin Suroor
113 59.5 Kg Godolphin

21 (8-7-2)

4(4) TERRIFIC CHALLENGE (USA) T Durcan
6yrs Ch H (28) D Watson
109 57.5 Kg [b] [TT] Sh Rashid bin Mohd Al Maktoum

20 (4-3-6)

5(5) MALAYEEN (AUS) A Ajtebi (nil)
5yrs Br H (21) A Selvaratnam
87 57.5 Kg [V] Hussain Nasser Lootah

10 (2-1-1)

6(6) POWER POLITICS (USA) W Smith
5yrs Bay H (21) M Al Muhairi
95 57.5 Kg [TT] Sh Majid bin Mohd Al Maktoum

22 (3-3-2)

7(7) BOTANICAL (USA) T O'Shea
7yrs Bay H (307) E Charpy
95 57.5 Kg [V2] [B-] [TT] Sh Hamdan bin Mohd Al Maktoum

28 (6-4-3)

8(8) SALAAM DUBAI (AUS) R Mullen
6yrs Bay G (28) A Selvaratnam
107 57.5 Kg [V] Farooq Racing

9 (5-2-0)

9(9) ASIATIC BOY (ARG) J Murtagh
4yrs Bay C (156) M de Kock
120 59.5 Kg Sh Mohd bin Khalifa Al Maktoum

17 (4-1-0)

10(10) MERCURY CHIEF (SAF) A Nicholls
6yrs Ch G (34) A Manuel
95 57.5 Kg [TT] The Bayern Syndicate


The following horses have been declared with Shadow Rolls: ASIATIC BOY (ARG), MALAYEEN (AUS), SALAAM DUBAI (AUS), SEA HUNTER (GB), VALIANCE (USA)

TRACK RECORD: 25-Mar-00 Big Jag (USA) 57.0 1200 Fast 1:08:10 A Solis

* * *

Form comments, from our friends at the ERA.....


Valiance (USA) 4 starts 1-1-2 Lightly-raced colt, whose best run came when runner-up in a Listed race in England on his second of four starts. Has non-turf experience, having run twice on a polytrack surface, but has not run since May and is sure to play second fiddle to stablemate Asiatic Boy.
Sea Hunter (GB) 26 starts 5-2-6 Already run four times this season, winning over course and distance on his penultimate start, before disappointing when fancied a week ago. Will appreciate the drop back in trip but a lot more needed here.

Diabolical (USA) 19 starts 8-2-6 Has some top class form in the US, having finished runner-up at the highest level, and comes here on a hat-trick after victories in a Grade 3 and then Grade 2 contest (both over today’s trip). Makes his Godolphin and UAE debut here, and the Dubai operation are bang in form, judging by their double last week. Big chance.

Terrific Challenge (USA) 21 starts 8-7-2 American import who shone on his first season in the UAE last season. Won the Mahab Al Shimaal on Super Thursday here last year - the switch to dirt not proving a problem on his first start for Doug Watson. He then followed up with a respectable seventh in the Dubai Golden Shaheen, before disappointing on his seasonal bow last month. A chance if he can recover his best form.

Malayeen (AUS) 20 starts 4-3-6 In the form of his life at the age of six. Having his sixth run at the track this season and comes here on a hat-trick, having made use of a feather weight to see off Frosty Secret in the Winter Racing Challenge Final. Will need to improve significantly again and has little chance on the ratings.

Power Politics (USA) 10 starts 2-1-1 Ex-Godolphin inmate, who scored on his penultimate start over course and distance last month, before finishing seventh behind Malayeen. Can reverse the form, as 24lb better off here for a four and a half length beating, but should still be outclassed.

Botanical (USA) 22 starts 3-3-2 Not won since June 2005 and makes his seasonal debut here, having last been seen in the Jebel Ali Sprint on March 23. Not much to recommend him.

Salaam Dubai (AUS) 28 starts 6-4-3 Has done connections, who seem to have knack of uncovering top-notch sprinters in the UAE, proud. Finished seventh behind Terrific Challenge in the Mahab Shimaal, before producing a career best third in the Group 1 Dubai Golden Shaheen. Won on his seasonal bow at Jebel Ali in November, before disappointing when fifth behind Sea Hunter over course and distance last month. Has a winning chance if he can repeat his Shaheen form.

Asiatic Boy (ARG) 9 starts 5-2-0 Took the UAE racing scene by storm last season, winning four races including the UAE Triple Crown, highlighted by the UAE Derby on Dubai World Cup night. Was then tried twice in the UK in top class contests won by Ramonti and Authorized, where the world class competition, longer distances and turf tracks proved beyond his reach. Takes the unusual route of dropping down to a sprint trip, but should have too much natural speed to be caught here.

Mercury Chief (SAF) 17 starts 4-1-0 A Group 2 winner in South Africa, he has run four times in the UAE, winning a handicap at Jebel Ali more than a year go, before finishing fifth in a conditions race there on his seasonal bow last month. Will need this drop down in trip to have a drastic effect to take a hand here.

Good luck, Asiatic Boy, Diabolical, Salaam Dubai and Terrific Boy! :)

NoChanceToDance 01-22-2008 10:16 AM

Do you want me to link the other races over here, or are you in the process of doing it?

my miss storm cat 01-22-2008 10:18 AM

UAE press release.....

Curlin heads DWC nominations (no author)

Curlin (pictured), officially the world’s highest-rated horse still in training, heads a total of 169 horses nominated for the US$6 million Dubai World Cup, sponsored by Emirates Airline on March 29.

They hail from 11 countries: UAE (78), US (38), Japan (18), UK (11), Brazil and France (6), Argentina, Turkey, Saudi Arabia (3), Macau (2) and Bahrain (1).

Apart from the Breeders’ Cup Classic winner, some other top names nominated for the world’s richest race run over 2000m on dirt, include Premium Tap (KSA), Asiatic Boy (SA), Happy Boy (BRZ), Literato (UAE), Daaher (US), Daiwa Scarlet (JPN), Vermilion (JPN), Awesome Gem (US), Latency (ARG), Student Council (US), and West Virginia (US).

The remaining card has also attracted most of the best horses in the world at this first closing stage for nominations.

The US$5million Group 1 Dubai Duty Free, sponsored by Dubai Duty Free and run over 1,777m on turf, is headed by Godolphin’s flagbearer of last season, Ramonti, as well as the triple Group 1-winning French filly Darjina, and New Zealand’s latest superstar Seachange.

The US$5million Group 1 Dubai Sheema Classic, sponsored by Nakheel and run over 2400metres on turf, has attracted six of the first seven home in last year’s race: Vengeance Of Rain (HK), Oracle West (SAF), Youmzain (UK), Sushisan (SAF), Pop Rock (JPN) and Quijano (GER), as well as the top class Japanese star Meisho Samson.

American dominate the first Group 1 race on the card, the US$2million Dubai Golden Shaheen, sponsored by Gulf News and run over 1200m on dirt. Breeders’ Cup Sprint hero Midnight Lute, last year’s winner Kelly’s Landing and Idiot Proof all represent the US, while Australia is represented by their flying filly Miss Andretti.

The US$1million Godolphin Mile, a Group 2 race run over 1600m on dirt and sponsored by Etisalat, could see Spring At Last (US) trying to defend his crown from 12 months ago, while the US$2million Group 2 UAE Derby, run over 1800m on dirt and sponsored by Saeed & Mohammed Al Naboodah Group, has attracted the top British colt, Strike The Deal and the unbeaten American raider El Gato Malo.

Dubai Racing Club CEO Mr Frank Gabriel Jr said: “The nominations for the 13th Dubai World Cup meeting are extremely satisfying.

“Most people agreed that last year’s meeting was the best yet and that the fixture can now lay claim to being the most competitive and international day’s racing anywhere in the world.

“What is particularly rewarding is that a number of horses who competed last year are set to return and it shows that many horsemen are keen to keep their horses in training now, and target international meetings such as this one.

“We are likely to see a lot of horses who ran in the Breeders’ Cup, Japan Cup and Hong Kong International meetings at the end of last year, then competing here, and it shows how strong and thriving the international racing scene is.”

my miss storm cat 01-22-2008 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance
Do you want me to link the other races over here, or are you in the process of doing it?

I didn't see this.... out of time so if you want to go for it.

jaripeo 01-22-2008 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance
Do you want me to link the other races over here, or are you in the process of doing it?

DO IT PLEASE.....:D

NoChanceToDance 01-22-2008 10:35 AM

Race one
http://www.emiratesracing.com/eq/Rac...cefile_id=7391

Race two
http://www.emiratesracing.com/eq/Rac...cefile_id=7394

Race three
http://www.emiratesracing.com/eq/Rac...cefile_id=7389

Race four
http://www.emiratesracing.com/eq/Rac...cefile_id=7393

Race five
http://www.emiratesracing.com/eq/Rac...cefile_id=7392

Race six
http://www.emiratesracing.com/eq/Rac...cefile_id=7218

Race seven
http://www.emiratesracing.com/eq/Rac...cefile_id=7390


I see that Hard Top is going for the 12 furlong race, which should suit him more.

fmc123412 01-22-2008 06:49 PM

some thoughts on 2 brazilians....

Bain Douche....I like the colt a lot! He has heart...and he is talented too, imo...his last 2 starts were in longer distances (2.000m and 2.400m) so i don't know if the reduced distance now will affect him.....he ran the 3 legs of the triple crown in his last 3 starts...he won the first (and was disqualified to 2nd place) got 3rd and 5th in the other legs. I respect Aquino on the race too….it will be an interesting race….by the way…Bain Douche has never run on the dirt…

Dono da Raia…..i don’t know what to expect from this horse….2006/2007 brazilian horse of the year….this one is SUPERB….but he is showing nothing since he was sold to the sheik…and his last start was nearly one year ago…If he is fit…he must be respected.

NCTD – Is Lamico Steve entered to run this week?

my miss storm cat 01-22-2008 11:06 PM

The complete list of noms.....

DUBAI WORLD CUP...

http://www.emiratesracing.com/era/pd...20Cup%20G1.pdf

DUBAI DUTY FREE.....

http://www.emiratesracing.com/era/pd...0Free%20G1.pdf

SHEEMA CLASSIC.....

http://www.emiratesracing.com/era/pd...assic%20G1.pdf

GODOLPHIN MILE.....

http://www.emiratesracing.com/era/pd...0Mile%20G2.pdf

UAE DERBY.....

http://www.emiratesracing.com/era/pd...Derby%20G2.pdf

brockguy 01-23-2008 05:34 AM

asiatic boy will be very very interesting to see over 6f.. i just want to see if he still has the talent there..

NoChanceToDance 01-23-2008 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by fmc123412
some thoughts on 2 brazilians....

Bain Douche....I like the colt a lot! He has heart...and he is talented too, imo...his last 2 starts were in longer distances (2.000m and 2.400m) so i don't know if the reduced distance now will affect him.....he ran the 3 legs of the triple crown in his last 3 starts...he won the first (and was disqualified to 2nd place) got 3rd and 5th in the other legs. I respect Aquino on the race too….it will be an interesting race….by the way…Bain Douche has never run on the dirt…

Dono da Raia…..i don’t know what to expect from this horse….2006/2007 brazilian horse of the year….this one is SUPERB….but he is showing nothing since he was sold to the sheik…and his last start was nearly one year ago…If he is fit…he must be respected.

NCTD – Is Lamico Steve entered to run this week?

Thanks for your input regarding the Brazilian challengers.

L'amico Steve was entered to run, but I don't think he has been declared for tomorrow.

my miss storm cat 01-23-2008 01:23 PM

Red Rocks confirmed for the Sheema Classic.....

NoChanceToDance 01-24-2008 10:00 AM

Replays.

Race 1 http://play.www.atr.servecast.net/pp..._01_24_01_1505

Race 2 http://play.www.atr.servecast.net/pp..._01_24_02_1535

NoChanceToDance 01-24-2008 10:27 AM

Honour Devil was very, VERY impressive.

replay: http://play.www.atr.servecast.net/pp..._01_24_03_1605

sorry for the poor quality, sods law that the main race I wanted to see was shown on a split screen!!!!

my miss storm cat 01-24-2008 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance
Honour Devil was very, VERY impressive.

replay: http://play.www.atr.servecast.net/pp..._01_24_03_1605

sorry for the poor quality, sods law that the main race I wanted to see was shown on a split screen!!!!

How did My Indy look?

No time to watch replays (yet...) gotta check HK. :D

NoChanceToDance 01-24-2008 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
How did My Indy look?

No time to watch replays (yet...) gotta check HK. :D

He stayed on for second past the tired Aquino, but Honour Devil was by far the best. This fella could be better than Asiatic Boy.

NoChanceToDance 01-24-2008 11:04 AM

Race 4 replay http://play.www.atr.servecast.net/pp..._01_24_04_1645

NoChanceToDance 01-24-2008 11:57 AM

Race 5 replay http://play.www.atr.servecast.net/pp..._01_24_05_1720


Asiatic Boy just won race 6, but he had to work fairly hard. Diabolical was very disappointing.

my miss storm cat 01-24-2008 12:13 PM

Nice to see him win and cheers to Salaam for a nice 2nd!

1 120 Asiatic Boy (ARG) 59.5 9 M de Kock J Murtagh
2 1.25 107 Salaam Dubai (AUS) 57.5 [V] 8 A Selvaratnam R Mullen
3 3.5 87 Malayeen (AUS) 57.5 [V] 5 A Selvaratnam A Ajtebi (nil)
4 Sh 113 Diabolical (USA) 59.5 3 S bin Suroor L Dettori
5 2.5 100 Sea Hunter (GB) 57.5 [V] [TT] 2 A Al Raihe R Ffrench
6 0.5 95 Botanical (USA) 57.5 [V2] [B-] [TT] 7 E Charpy T O'Shea
7 3.5 95 Valiance (USA) 57.5 1 M de Kock K Shea
8 0.5 109 Terrific Challenge (USA) 57.5 [b] [TT] 4 D Watson T Durcan
9 3.5 95 Mercury Chief (SAF) 57.5 [TT] 10 A Manuel A Nicholls
10 Hd 95 Power Politics (USA) 57.5 [TT] 6 M Al Muhairi W Smith

NoChanceToDance 01-24-2008 12:17 PM

He had a wall of horses in front of him at one point. With a better trip, he would have won very easily

Here is the replay of Asiatic Boy winning the sixth race
http://play.www.atr.servecast.net/pp..._01_24_06_1755

The Bid 01-24-2008 12:33 PM

Diabolical went to his nose when the gates popped. Amazing he photo for third after that start

NoChanceToDance 01-24-2008 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
Diabolical went to his nose when the gates popped. Amazing he photo for third after that start

I don't believe that was much of an exucse to be honest. After that he was soon on the front end and travelling very well. Okay, the start wasn't great, but I don't think it cost him any placings at all.

He certainly didn't seem to lose any ground at the start. When I first saw it, I thought he had but after watching again, it didn't seem to make any difference.

I thought he'd be good enough to win today at this distance. I at least expected him to finish second. Apart from him and Asiatic Boy, it wasn't a great race. Salaam Dubai ran a huge race in the Golden Shaheen last year, but looking at the rest of his form, that run looks like it could have been a bit of a fluke.

Oh well. Maybe next time.

EDIT: Just watched it again. It does look bad when he comes out of the gates, but if you look through the race, he was in a much better position than the winner throughout. Maybe he wasn't quite fit enough today.

The Bid 01-24-2008 01:05 PM

He should have beaten that group at 70% fitness. That break cost him the race, but I doubt he will be the same horse that was over here running last spring.

There was nothing in there besides Asiatic Boy, and he doesnt want to sprint. He just beat those horses on class. I doubt very seriously he could have sprinted with Diabolical if they broke on even terms.

NoChanceToDance 01-24-2008 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
He should have beaten that group at 70% fitness. That break cost him the race, but I doubt he will be the same horse that was over here running last spring.

There was nothing in there besides Asiatic Boy, and he doesnt want to sprint. He just beat those horses on class. I doubt very seriously he could have sprinted with Diabolical if they broke on even terms.

Diabolical broke better than Asiatic Boy. You may find that hard to believe after going on his nose, but watch the race again. Until about half a furlong out, Diabolical was always in front of Asiatic Boy.

The start didn't cost him at all.

If Asiatic Boy had got a better trip, he would have been a very easy winner.

I don't know quite how Diabolical managed to do it, but he didn't seem to lose any ground at the start at all.

The Bid 01-24-2008 01:30 PM

I guess we just disagree on whether or not the stumble cost him placings.

Asiatic Boy didnt figure to come out on top of that field regardless, so a slower break doesnt hamper him nearly as much as a front runner like Diabolical

brockguy 01-24-2008 02:03 PM

Asiatic Boy showed what a class act he was today. Onwards and upwards from here. And GO TO AMERICA after Dubai. you can win on turf and dirt and polytrack there. At least the turf will be firm..

NoChanceToDance 01-24-2008 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by brockguy
Asiatic Boy showed what a class act he was today. Onwards and upwards from here. And GO TO AMERICA after Dubai. you can win on turf and dirt and polytrack there. At least the turf will be firm..

Maybe not at Santa Anita, though :p

brockguy 01-27-2008 11:03 AM

Huge shock.. Happy Boy sold to Sheikh Hamdan and to be trained now by Bin Suroor

NoChanceToDance 01-27-2008 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by brockguy
Huge shock.. Happy Boy sold to Sheikh Hamdan and to be trained now by Bin Suroor

:rolleyes:

I wonder where he will actually be trained after Dubai?

It's disappointing, you would have thought they would have let the current owners keep ownership until the end of the carnival.

my miss storm cat 01-27-2008 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance
:rolleyes:

I wonder where he will actually be trained after Dubai?

It's disappointing, you would have thought they would have let the current owners keep ownership until the end of the carnival.

Why is it disappointing???

NoChanceToDance 01-27-2008 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
Why is it disappointing???

Because it would have been a nice gesture to the previous owners. People with horses like Happy Boy cannot afford to turn down these huge sums of money that was no doubt waved in front of their faces.

The trainer will be very disappointed because he was seriously looking forward to running him again.

Will they run him in the World Cup do you think?

my miss storm cat 01-27-2008 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance
Because it would have been a nice gesture to the previous owners. People with horses like Happy Boy cannot afford to turn down these huge sums of money that was no doubt waved in front of their faces.

The trainer will be very disappointed because he was seriously looking forward to running him again.

Will they run him in the World Cup do you think?

A nice gesture???

Ummm, I don't think anyone put a gun to their (the owners) heads.

They got an offer and they agreed.

Yeah I still think he'll run. Can't see any reason why not...

NoChanceToDance 01-27-2008 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
A nice gesture???

Ummm, I don't think anyone put a gun to their (the owners) heads.

They got an offer and they agreed.

Yeah I still think he'll run. Can't see any reason why not...

Well, many of these deals that are completed of horses with foreign owners or with prime targets are often allowed to run the horse in their name until after that race, or in this case I thought they would at least let the previous owners let him race for them until the end of the carnival.

Oh, there is no doubt they probably felt under some pressure to sell. I know I would have done in that situation when basically the ruling family of the country you are in have said they want to buy your horse.

I just hope they haven't bought him to eliminate the competition for Literato (if he's still pointed towards the world cup). In a way, I'd hope they run Happy Boy and point Literato somewhere else.

my miss storm cat 01-28-2008 10:36 AM

Fmc123412.....

L'Amico Steve is possible for the 3rd on Thursday. :)

Others (possible / Day 3) include Jonquil, Jalil, Dijeerr, Pinson.

Will post the final fields when they're up.

Linngari to the G2 2 Al Fahidi Fort (again).

On Gun Salute.....


American recruit pleases in carnival gallop

Doug Watson reports new recruit Gun Salute in fine shape and was pleased with his new charge who worked over five furlongs on the Nad Al Sheba dirt track this morning.

Winner of the Group 1 Secretariat Stakes in 2005, the six-year-old entire son of Military arrived in Dubai on 13th January having been kept fit at the Keeneland Training Centre prior to his departure. Having arrived in good shape, this morning’s five-furlong gallop under Mick Kinane, was his second serious piece of work since his arrival and Watson was delighted:

“He has covered that in exactly a minute and we are very pleased. Mick (Kinane) certainly likes the horse and he is an exciting addition to our Carnival team. The Group 1 Dubai Duty Free over 1777m on turf is his target but obviously he won't run in the Al Rashidiya this week. However, there is a handicap over the same course and distance next Friday and we are targeting that.”

The horse, who will remain based in the quarantine centre and return to the States after World Cup night, will work on the turf next Monday prior to his UAE debut.

fmc123412 01-28-2008 05:59 PM

great news!! let's see his performance!...he has talent...but, historically, brazilian turf horses don't have the same good results as dirt specialists....

by the way...it's a shame what Dono da Raia's owners are doing with the career of this horse....i'm extremely sad about that...:(


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