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hoovesupsideyourhead

12-29-2007 12:27 AM

call me crazy but i like rudy r ..give em a speed horse and hes money..he has his weak points .traffic and pace..but given a 1 mission go to the front and ride ,,hes very good .more so than some "name jocks"

Scav	12-29-2007 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

stop now

blackthroatedwind

12-29-2007 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

OK....you're crazy.

I'll never forget the five horse field at Belmont where he got disqualified for effectively fouling himself.

Scav	12-29-2007 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

OK....you're crazy.

I'll never forget the five horse field at Belmont where he got disqualified for effectively fouling himself.

I gotta see this, can you get me a date and race number?

hoovesupsideyourhead

12-29-2007 12:37 AM

frankly im shocked.......put him on martin garcias mounts he wins 90 perc

blackthroatedwind

12-29-2007 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav

I gotta see this, can you get me a date and race number?

It was a few years ago.....but it was a real knee slapper.

golfer

12-29-2007 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It was a few years ago.....but it was a real knee slapper.

Didn't Julie Krone once claim foul against her entry-mate?

blackthroatedwind

12-29-2007 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by golfer

Didn't Julie Krone once claim foul against her entry-mate?

Yup, and PG Johnson never rode her again.

disappearingdan_akaplaya

12-29-2007 10:42 AM

LOL@ this whole thread, are you serious? hooves youre a fucin idiot since you wanna call names and always have been since you and john frank showed up for the sole purpose of just talking sh1t. thing are still the same with you, i see you know absolutely nothing. again sore horses go to the track and race every single day at all class levels. again i heard it from somebody who was actually on the horses back. theres a reason why nick put the horse in for a tag and theres a reason it took the horse so long to run back off the claim, some people have no clue

disappearingdan_akaplaya

12-29-2007 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

This horse has been the source of some pretty outrageous claims recently on this board. Well, he's running in tomorrow's first race at Aqueduct. Now, he is probably in too tough, and is being ridden by the worst rider at Aqueduct ( if not the entire country ) in Felix Ortiz, but even if only for educational purposes, I recommend that you carefully watch the replay of his last race. I think it will refute the silly notion that he didn't run well. My guess? With even a professional jockey he would have won and it is hard to deny that he was at least close to the best horse in that race.

Maybe he'll get another boneheaded ride tomorrow and then get a rider switch, Rudy Rodriguez would be a huge move up, and find a good spot for the following race.

oh god, the ride didnt cost him the race and the horse that won was much the best that day. why i even bother responding i dont know. howbout the day he was claimed for 25k and was pulled up early that day? YOURE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT HE WAS NEVER SORE WHILE WITH NICK ZITO, LOL SERIOUSLY WTF ARE YOU SMOKING?

disappearingdan_akaplaya

12-29-2007 10:55 AM

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yes i have nothing better to do with my time then come here and lie/make outrageous claims, thats why the horse was dropped in for a tag to get claimed and got pulled up that day, DC is the soundest thing on the grounds solely cuz he comes from the NZ barn:rolleyes:

fpsoxfan

12-29-2007 12:49 PM

Doc Cheney got another very poor ride. I usually don't get too down on jockeys, but Ortiz might want to look into a different career.

disappearingdan_akaplaya

12-29-2007 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

No one is disputing sore horses go to the track daily. As has been mentioned, Banshee Breeze ran sore for the better part of 2 seasons. But you insinuated Zito ran a hurt horse, which is untrue. Again, I'll take someone's word who is friends with the former trainer of the horse. Frankly, it's tiresome hearing about how much you know. Shouldn't such a racing expert like yourself be doing more in the game than hotwalking $5k claimers?

I know, I know, you're an owner.

yeah he wasnt hurt, why the hell was he pulled up the day NZ layed him in for 25k and he got claimed that day? justa coincidence right? nick didnt know it was time to get ridda him huh? nother solid effort from DC today, god id hate to see how the poor thing came back after the race today, i honestly cant believe some are as naive as they appear to be

fpsoxfan

12-29-2007 07:00 PM

Hi there!!

Coach Pants

12-29-2007 07:01 PM

fpsoxfan

12-29-2007 07:07 PM

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I know that guy!

2MinsToPost

12-29-2007 08:54 PM

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I thought Birdbird was a little interesting. Speaking of bad rides.....take a look at the replay of his last race.

Eddie Casto again takes the cake when I pass on him.

blackthroatedwind

01-25-2008 02:56 PM

I assume everybody got fat.

Funny, he didn't look lame today with a different rider.

hoovesupsideyourhead

01-25-2008 03:06 PM

yes its tough when you have to defend something for no reason

blackthroatedwind

01-25-2008 03:10 PM

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yes its tough when you have to defend something for no reason

The whole thing is laughable......and frankly stands as a great example of the foolishness of so-called " backstretch info " versus watching races and handicapping. To anyobe who understands race watching, Doc Cheney ran very well in both his last two starts, and couldn't overcome bad race riding and circumstance. Today he had a new rider and a race filled with pace on a track that seemed to be playing at least somewhat fair.

It took a great ride to win it, and he certainly is no superstar, but if you paid attention you cashed. And, of course, didn't pay attention to absurd supposed backstretch jabber.

fpsoxfan

01-25-2008 05:43 PM

Nice Job Andy. I wish I had remembered this thread!! I totally forgot about this horse. 5-1 was pretty nice. Would have been higher had the entry scratched. Got a terrible ride last time out. Nice ride this time!

blackthroatedwind

01-25-2008 05:46 PM

Thanks. It was a great ride. The horse deserved it after the last two horrible rides it got.

Thoroughbred Fan

01-25-2008 10:24 PM

Hey Andy-

I missed the thread having a baby this week. First time father. Great analysis of the previous trips, jockeys, and field today. Throw this new Dad a bone and give out some more winning info. I'll take it by PM if you don't want everyone getting fat off of it. My baby needs some new shoes.

Great work.

-Chris

blackthroatedwind

01-25-2008 10:29 PM

It's actually sort of an old thread....but his first start back.

Congrats on the baby. That's great. Much more important than any winners.

VOL JACK

01-26-2008 12:38 AM

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Congrats Chris,
Now close your eyes and forget everything u ever knew about sleeping and sex.:)
I have an eleven month old.

Thoroughbred Fan

01-26-2008 01:04 PM

Both the wife and baby are fine. We are home.

Sleep? What is that?

Andy, you are right, a healthy baby is more important than any winner. I consider myself a winner that we are all doing fine.

Danzig

01-26-2008 01:34 PM

congratulations thorobred fan!!

your life will never be the same.

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