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GBBob 12-08-2007 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
my dad was a ww2 vet (new guinea, northern luzon island , japanese occupation).

i want to throw his corpse in this debate but i'm not sure how to do it tastefully.

any suggestions?

was he a Mormon??

oops..wrong thread

hi_im_god 12-08-2007 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
was he a Mormon??

oops..wrong thread


he was catholic.

which could explain my rigid hostility to anyone who doubts the truth of what i believe.

GBBob 12-08-2007 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
he was catholic.

which could explain my rigid hostility to anyone who doubts the truth of what i believe.

mine was an atheist, who married a Catholic, who (she) became an agnostic, who became an Episcopalian, who probably could have made Muslim if she hadn't died last year. I mean...it's like being a free agent...there are very few loyals anymore

hi_im_god 12-08-2007 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
mine was an atheist, who married a Catholic, who (she) became an agnostic, who became an Episcopalian, who probably could have made Muslim if she hadn't died last year. I mean...it's like being a free agent...there are very few loyals anymore

"mine was an atheist, who married a Catholic"

had it been the other way around i'd have guessed you were jewish.

"who became an Episcopalian"

that grew up in minnesota.

"it's like being a free agent...there are very few loyals anymore"

and that you were actually bob dylan.

sorry about your mom.

GBBob 12-08-2007 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
"mine was an atheist, who married a Catholic"

had it been the other way around i'd have guessed you were jewish.

"who became an Episcopalian"

that grew up in minnesota.

"it's like being a free agent...there are very few loyals anymore"

and that you were actually bob dylan.

sorry about your mom.

Robert Zimmerman..

ok...you guessed it

pgardn 12-08-2007 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
i want to throw his corpse in this debate but i'm not sure how to do it tastefully.

any suggestions?

Exhumation.
Cover with strawberry jam.
Use a large wooden catapult
to launch sweet parts into
Fort Sumnter...
(Wrong war, and missspelled)

And the home
of the
B to the R to the A to the V...

hi_im_god 12-09-2007 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
Exhumation.
Cover with strawberry jam.
Use a large wooden catapult
to launch sweet parts into
Fort Sumnter...
(Wrong war, and missspelled)

And the home
of the
B to the R to the A to the V...

i was going to show my mom this string but i guess that's out.

in your favor, i'll have to weigh this possibility for my own funeral against the prior plan to have my corpse dumped out of a plane over disneyland.

i'll let you know if i'm offended or thankful once i decide.

Mortimer 12-09-2007 05:29 PM

Just to clarify....we could use God Bless America or America The Beautiful.....or just alternate.

And we are the only nation to certify our belief that church shall be kept separate from state...for those who aren't up to snuff on that sort of thing.....Dannie.

pgardn 12-09-2007 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
i was going to show my mom this string but i guess that's out.

in your favor, i'll have to weigh this possibility for my own funeral against the prior plan to have my corpse dumped out of a plane over disneyland.

i'll let you know if i'm offended or thankful once i decide.

Its always nice to have choices after your dead.
At least you got that going for ya.

Mortimer 12-12-2007 04:32 PM

See what you think.

I like both a lot:






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CILIBlQ2D0Q



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USMGOy6ygDg

Mortimer 12-13-2007 09:54 AM

Hey...don't listen.










I don't care!

cmorioles 12-13-2007 10:29 AM

Wow, hard to believe people get upset about the lack of the National Anthem before a game. I had actually forgotten they play the Anthem at the track until visiting Saratoga this year. Most people look at it as an inconvenience to stop and be quiet for a few minutes.

I'm as patriotic as the next guy, probably moreso than most, but I don't think this is any big deal.

Mortimer 12-13-2007 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles
Wow, hard to believe people get upset about the lack of the National Anthem before a game. I had actually forgotten they play the Anthem at the track until visiting Saratoga this year. Most people look at it as an inconvenience to stop and be quiet for a few minutes.

I'm as patriotic as the next guy, probably moreso than most, but I don't think this is any big deal.



You filthy naybob of nincompoopism!


You are entitled to your yak like opinion.









But just you keep one thing in mind ...sir.

The guy that went on perimeter patrol even though the weather was inclement and he had lost his best friend the night before having watched his head disappear ..he probably wasn't too crazy about his own inconvenience either.




So if we can't take 2 stinking minutes to remember guys like this before sporting events....which are a luxury.....when that 2 minutes can be seen to be " no big deal" then we get what we have today which will become more and more over the tomorrows.

Now if you can claim you have done that ....that's a different story. I was in the Marines....but I never had to actually fight in a war.


Hundreds of thousands to date have.

If they think as you......then I admit to being a fool.

Mortimer 12-13-2007 10:46 AM

But I appreciate your Dannie like input.






Thank you so much.

cmorioles 12-13-2007 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer
You filthy naybob of nincompoopism!

You are entitled to your yak like opinion.

I was saying this one game, they made a decision, admittedly wrong, but that is life. No do overs. It is hardly worth condemnation.

Mortimer 12-13-2007 10:55 AM

Oh.

Another thought.





That's the really great thing. These guys did all they did so we can still live where you don't have to play the anthem or any other patriotic song before a sporting event...and if they do play it.....you can kibitz or even talk on your cell phone to the Michigan president.

One could even burn the flag while the song was being played.

None of that is illegal...it's a free country.

Nothing says you have to do it.

Mortimer 12-13-2007 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles
I was saying this one game, they made a decision, admittedly wrong, but that is life. No do overs. It is hardly worth condemnation.


Yes it is.......they still played the game...didn't they?



That's the level of importance it is given.

The spirit of God Bless America,America the Beautiful or the Anthem is allowed to be there thanks to football.


I thought it was the other way around.

Mortimer 12-13-2007 11:12 AM

Fucl<in' aye!!


God I have great thoughts!






What if on that national stage with a stadium missing many fans and the game about to go on.........and I don't know if the sound system didn't work or if they had a band there...say they could not do either.



But did do somehing even if it was a person...anyone.....who went out to the 50 and sang one of those songs.



What a tremendous opportunity to display what this really should mean to us all.





But no....delay already too long ....just not industrious enough to come up with a way to get this "inconvenience" done.....but industrious enough to think of excuses as to why it wasn't.

cmorioles 12-13-2007 11:17 AM

I came to this thread much too late. It has already been hijacked by a moron...err...morty.

Mortimer 12-13-2007 11:25 AM

Well Morty Moron ,notroious thread hijacker, has said all he is going to say about it.



I don't even have to come back here to listen to these swell songs because I have them in fav places and play them at least once a day.

This odd habit of mine is a great inconvenience to me ,but I do it as self punishment for being a raging idiot..... and I don't like pain.

Rileyoriley 12-13-2007 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer


Ray Charles version but both are good.:)

Mortimer 12-13-2007 03:30 PM

Entirely too kind.


I really meant it for the ones who seemed to have a problem with The Star Spangled Banner...but anyone could have commented .You show great guts because, as you know, today I have been outted as :




A raging moron.

A thread hijacker.




Oh.....and now...





A BIG LIAH













Fine work.....thank you so much.

Mortimer 12-13-2007 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I think you forgot....

A big ol' sissy



Would it be hard to believe that when I saw your name as the last post here.............I had a feeling you were going to remind me of that.



I find the fact you did to be highly amusing.

cmorioles 12-13-2007 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Behooved. It's been awhile Morty, so I have to get a few shots in. Us sissies have to stick together, don't ya know.

A warm rag can take care of that.

Mortimer 12-13-2007 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Behooved. It's been awhile Morty, so I have to get a few shots in. Us sissies have to stick together, don't ya know.




ror!....OOOOOOOOOO




Let's hope they keep falling for this predator charade and never find out just how big a tandem of sissies we really are.

Rileyoriley 12-13-2007 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer
Entirely too kind.


I really meant it for the ones who seemed to have a problem with The Star Spangled Banner...but anyone could have commented .You show great guts because, as you know, today I have been outted as :




A raging moron.

A thread hijacker.




Oh.....and now...





A BIG LIAH













Fine work.....thank you so much.


I believe many on here could be accused of the same from time to time.
I got out of work early today because of the storm so I've been catching up on my thread reading.

Mortimer 12-13-2007 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmorioles
A warm rag can take care of that.


You might want to toss one on the pedestal then.

Mortimer 12-13-2007 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rileyoriley
I believe many on here could be accused of the same from time to time.
I got out of work early today because of the storm so I've been catching up on my thread reading.



Good point....but I'm the one that must pay for the masses here.


Work sems like a better option now...huh?



:)

Rileyoriley 12-13-2007 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortimer
Good point....but I'm the one that must pay for the masses here.


Work sems like a better option now...huh?



:)

No, I've missed the entertainment on this board. Work will slow down again after the holidays.

Mortimer 12-13-2007 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rileyoriley
No, I've missed the entertainment on this board. Work will slow down again after the holidays.

I think a lot of people have.








=;>

Mortimer 12-14-2007 12:45 PM

I guess I am a fool:




PITTSBURGH (AP) - Sports in America start with the national anthem. The Dolphins- Steelers game was an exception.
Rushing to begin the nationally televised matchup following a 25- minute weather delay, the NFL chose to skip the anthem Monday night before Miami played Pittsburgh. The game started without any of the traditional pregame ceremonies, except the coin toss, and neither team was introduced on the public address system.

According to the Steelers, the NFL wanted the game to begin as soon as possible following the delay. Several more minutes would have been needed to set up a microphone and sound equipment at midfield, where the anthem is traditionally performed at Steelers games.

There was no apparent fan reaction to the omission, which occurred as many fans were scrambling to get back to their seats for the kickoff. The fans were ordered to leave the lower seating bowl at Heinz Field when lightning and a heavy rain resulted in both teams being waved off the field during pregame warmups.

The teams warmed up for an additional nine minutes before the game began at 8:55 p.m. EST. Pittsburgh won 3-0 on Jeff Reed's 24-yard field goal with 17 seconds remaining.

National anthems are rarely televised during NFL games, with the Super Bowl being an exception, so there was no indication if any veterans groups were unhappy with the omission.

Mortimer 12-14-2007 01:10 PM

This is probably a much better thought:



Letter: National anthem has no place on gridiron stage
Sunday, December 2, 2007


With the failure to present the national anthem at the Pittsburgh Steelers-Miami Dolphins Monday Night Football game, perhaps the team and the National Football League are on to something.
Singing the beautiful and stirring theme of our nation always has been out of place at an event where many individuals who have painted parts of their bodies black and gold come to watch a rough contact sport, to engage in rip-roaring rooting for their team, and to become intoxicated. The singing of the national anthem at such an event makes as much sense as saying grace at a strip joint.

The national anthem, in all its majesty, should be sung at events that afford it the dignity it deserves. A professional football game not only does not qualify, but singing it on such an occasion is an insult to the patriotism and heartfelt sentiment that the anthem was designed to evoke.

Oren M. Spiegler
Upper St. Clair

cmorioles 12-14-2007 04:06 PM

At least you have a good signature at the bottom of your posts.

Mortimer 12-14-2007 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles
At least you have a good signature at the bottom of your posts.



Thank you so much.

hi_im_god 12-14-2007 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles
At least you have a good signature at the bottom of your posts.

i worked hard on this one. i took the holiday season into account and everything.

but that's okay. message received.

i'll just have to crank out something better (sigh).


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