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blackthroatedwind 11-13-2007 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

save the smart ass answers please......


That precludes my response.

hoovesupsideyourhead 11-13-2007 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
That precludes my response.

im sure it was a good one too......

Holland Hacker 11-13-2007 11:48 AM

I first went to Monmouth in 1981 on a whim. My friends brother was going and asked if we wanted to go. As it turns out it was a big day at the track as we saw Five Star Flight win the the Monmouth Invitational (now known as the Haskell). He tried to show us how to read a form and a program, I'm still learning. I've been into racing ever since then.

What has kept me involved is the "Puzzle" aspect and knowing that it is parimutuel wagering and all my experience and "knowledge" should one day provide an advantage over the people that are betting names, numbers and colors. I'm still waiting for the elusive big score, hope it comes soon, real soon.

After reading most of the these posts I think I might actually be PMACDADDY's long lost brother.

I too am in a profession dealing with numbers (accounting) as he is and enjoy spending time at the track with my 5 year old son.

moke0043 11-13-2007 02:46 PM

A Texas bred horse by the name of YESSIRGENERALSIR got me into the sport.

The Bid 11-13-2007 03:32 PM

My parents owned horses when I was younger. I think my mother liked it more than my father, my mother likes the action, my dad is pretty conservative. To this day there is nowhere I feel as relaxed as I do at the racetrack.

VOL JACK 11-13-2007 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
My parents owned horses when I was younger. I think my mother liked it more than my father, my mother likes the action, my dad is pretty conservative. To this day there is nowhere I feel as relaxed as I do at the racetrack.

Hey BID, are those the familar black and lime silks of Billy Hays in your Avator??:D

The Bid 11-13-2007 03:51 PM

No, but I like when Luke calls the familiar silks of X owner.

Those are none other but the famed silks of Archie De silva on Champion Silent Witness

ateamstupid 11-13-2007 04:13 PM

I like animals. I'm a statistics and figures and charts geek. I like gambling.

Hickory Hill Hoff 11-13-2007 04:31 PM

Got into seriously in the summer of '86, started my first real full-time job and a co-worker loved to play everyday. I would follow the Triple Crown races and the Spa, but not the daily grind. That was 21 years ago and I've never looked back!

Hickory Hill Hoff 11-13-2007 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
Hey Sumitas!!!
I'm with you about Ruffian.
For me it was Alydar.

I tried to pm you about hip no 309 in the NY Breeders mixed sale at Saratoga.
I hope S- Warrior is ok. Smart to scratch him out of the sale, as it was horrible for nybreds. I sure wish NYRA would settle things cause the instability is killing the NY market. Timonium was even worse! Joe Mc"s were all RNA's.

PM me cause I have good news about Darlin' by Day and Daring Day. Both are 3X3 to Alydar.
Also, keep your eyes out for Tomorrow's Dancer (a mare that Jose picked up at the sale). She's by Tomorrow's Cat (Storm Cat), and also Jim J's Be Fruitful, a full sister to Corinthian---that won on the last day of Belmont's meet, in the slop, by six lengths going away.

Welcome back DTS-55! :) Glad to see you posting again...you sent me my first PM back when this board started. How's things down in the southern tier? I'm sure things will be picking up soon with hunting season starting on Saturday.

Lava 11-13-2007 06:45 PM

Afleet Alex and Lava Man love both of them:D

3kings 11-13-2007 07:11 PM

As a boy I would visit my Grandmother and her brothers for a couple of weeks in the summer. They used to take me to Monmouth Park a couple of times a year. Loved the Paddock and how the horses walked through the building to get to the track. If you havn't been there it is a beautiful track and I explored every inch of the place. If I picked a couple of winners for my grandmother it was a stop for ice cream on the way home. Since those early days I have loved racing because of these fond memories. Now I enjoy the game because I find handicapping and trying to predict the outcome a challange, which I openly admit, I am not very good at.

philcski 11-13-2007 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
I like animals. I'm a statistics and figures and charts geek. I like gambling.

Uh, me too. But I think everybody here already knew that :o

whodey17 11-13-2007 07:51 PM

For me it was the challenge to come up with the winner of a race. The stuyding, the projections how a race would unfold, the grace and beauty these animals have and the most of all, the companionship I shared with my father and grandfather.

westcoastinvader 11-14-2007 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSpyder
Earliest memory was Randall Park in Cleveland as an eight year old with my mom. She loved the races...and the rest is history.

Later growing up from 14 on would go to the Big T (Thistledowns) through high school. If you've been there you know you can only go up from there and next track was Churchil for the Derby.

Being in sales traveled the US taking in most tracks.

Why do I do this? The challenge, excitement, horses, the people. Yea, gambling is a big part of it but becoming less, especially thanks to Steve, in the enjoyment of learning more about the sport...and having your own (albeit small part) of a horse.

Bottomline it's one of the few things in life where you get back more than you put in.

Spyder

My personal story would pretty much echo Spyder's

I've been going to the track and following the horses for fifty years.

Fifty years. Half a century stuff!

And, I'm now 51.


My mother didn't drive, as most mothers didn't back in the late 1950's and early 1960's. But, she'd call a cab and lug me to the track, even as an infant. I've posted around here before, but it's a true story that I was reading the DRF and the Cleveland Plain Dealer sports page at age 4 and 5.

I've also posted before that I won a major spelling bee in the legs to the Washington finals by correctly spelling the word "inquiry." When the principal inquired live on stage how I was so confident in the spelling, I let the audience know that I had seen the word on the odds board at the track many times before.

Ascot Park was my first and most beloved track.

The track that Eddie DeBartolo bought and closed in the mid-1960's.

At this moment, I'm looking at a nicely framed original ink winner's circle photo from Ascot Park. July 1, 1950. "Fly Demon" was the winner, with "H.Craig" up. Owned and trained by "O. Meredith." "7 furlongs in 1:26 2/5-Fast". The "Akron-Cleveland Purse." I bought it last year on eBay for just a couple bucks. I was ready to go 50 times higher to get it, but apparently I'm one of the few who know, care or remember Ascot Park.

I, too, darkened the door of Randall, Spyder.

horseofcourse 11-14-2007 04:34 AM

I started watching the Derby in 1972 and grew up in the 70s and 80s. When you start out on Riva Ridge, Secretariat--Sham, Foolish Pleasure, Bold Forbes--Honest Pleasure, Seattle Slew, Affirmed--Alydar and Spectacular Bid...you think horses come around like that every single year. Turns out I was wrong!!

docicu3 11-14-2007 04:37 AM

I like animals. I'm a statistics and figures and charts geek. I like gambling.
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Originally Posted by philcski
Uh, me too. But I think everybody here already knew that :o

I graduated from this school as well......

Watching Easy Goer and Sunday Silence teach me what the triple crown was didn't hurt either

azerica 11-14-2007 05:10 PM

My grandpa got me hooked on the track atmosphere. I never bet except to say i placed a wager on any race and that was a rare occasion. I love the crowds, the horsey smells of the paddock, the thunder of hooves....it wasn't until a few months ago i decided to try to learn to read the form......

ninetoone 11-14-2007 05:36 PM

Used to go to the greyhounds in Arizona in the 70's with my grandparents. My cousin and I would walk around and collect old tickets off the ground & check them against the program for fun. One day he found a winning ticket & my grandfather made him split it with us 4 ways. He's still mad about it to this day. Since then, I'd have to agree that the puzzle aspect is a strong pull for me, along w/the parimutuel aspect. I also haven't found a form of gambling that provides a better rush when you win. I think that goes back to the puzzle & the feeling that comes along with solving it...especially on a longshot. I just will never understand how someone could sit at a slot machine for hours on end when this is readily available...baffles my mind.

jballscalls 11-14-2007 05:52 PM

My dad would take me to Longacres every weekend during the season. I can still hear Gary Henson "And here he comes, the Captain Condo is on the move" after they closed longacres i didnt go to the track for probably 7 or 8 years. when my dad got sick i started going with him alot that spring/summer of 2001 to Emerald Downs. After he passed away i spent alot of time at EmD and started falling in love with racing as i did in my childhood. I dont gamble hardly at all anymore, just love being a part of the game and enjoying it everyday.

my miss storm cat 11-14-2007 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
That precludes my response.

C'mon, let's hear it..... :)

theiman 11-14-2007 08:11 PM

Summer of 1970.
The back up goalie for the NY Rangers, Gilles Villemure, was a harness trainer driver at Roosevelt Raceway. I had Ranger season tickets and had to see him drive.
I found a friend who was 17, as I was 15 and too young to drive, and he was going to the track and got a ride with him. He told me we would have to ask an adult to walk us in thru the gate, so we asked some older folks, gave them the $2 admission and went in with them. I won the first night betting $2on each race. Bought my first horse 6 years later at 21 and have loved it since.
Converted to mostly T-Breds about 20 years ago, but still follow the trots as some of my friends still own standardbreds.

Never regret getting into the game or following it. Met way too many good people along the way, and some creeps too.

Rileyoriley 11-14-2007 08:19 PM

An uncle took me to the Northampton fairgrounds when I was 7 and watching the TC races on tv with my grandfather. Derby and BC day are my holidays. I only bet a couple times a year but I tape all the races.

jman5581 11-14-2007 08:27 PM

Growing up a mile from Churchill Downs did it for me.

The Indomitable DrugS 11-14-2007 08:48 PM

My father and grandfather and others in my family were all degenerate horse gamblers.

As were some of the regulars at a little bar my dad owned/booked bets from. That was of course after his illustrious betting coup/training career was halted.

I guess I was a big hit in the bar. They named a sandwhich after me - and I was all about giving horse and sports betting advice as long as the recipiant of my fine advice gave me a quarter to go play pac-man after I was finished.

In 1991 I cashed a bet on my first big longshot winner - I believe it came on the same card as when Dance Smartly won the second leg of her Canadian Triple Crown sweep. Through the magic of technology and BRIS Cd's I now know that the winner, Time To Gogo, finished her brilliant career with a 1-for-25 record.

Concern's win in the '94 Classic - when I had the exacta straight and called him winning a last-to-first pace meltdown - that was when I first thought I was a genius...and believed myself.

Perhaps that race played the biggest role in the obsession I got to take handicapping and betting as seriously as I do....or at least did.

AeWingnut 11-14-2007 09:00 PM

My Uncle
 
I took my uncle Charlie to the riverboat. He was bored stiff. He took me to the OTB and that was it. I didn't know it at the time but his uncle Ed owned horses. I'm afraid we are losing more of the old breed without new blood filling the void.

I agree with hoove's it is solving a puzzle. For some reason the very first thing I look at is bloodlines.

nomad 11-14-2007 09:01 PM

I grew up just a few miles from Aqueduct, but never went. At that time, you had to be 18. I left NY when I was 18. went to Cal, met a guy who took me to NM. A friend suggested going to SF Downs so a group of us went. I watched a few races. I've always been an animal lover. When I saw a horse that looked great, I thought about making my first bet. I asked a more experienced friend if I should bet the horse to show. He said "If you like a horse, you should bet to win"
So I put $2 to win on this 10/1 shot. I got back $22 & got hooked for life.
I still make those $2 win bets on horses I like the looks of & it's been 30 years.
I love this game & I love the beautiful animals that make it possible.

philcski 11-14-2007 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by docicu3
I like animals. I'm a statistics and figures and charts geek. I like gambling.
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I graduated from this school as well......

Watching Easy Goer and Sunday Silence teach me what the triple crown was didn't hurt either

Yeah, Sunday Silence/Easy Goer pretty much sealed me for life as well.

Cajungator26 11-14-2007 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
Yeah, Sunday Silence/Easy Goer pretty much sealed me for life as well.

Ditto.

westcoastinvader 11-14-2007 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
Yeah, Sunday Silence/Easy Goer pretty much sealed me for life as well.

I used to tell girlfriends never to worry about me meeting a girl at the track (or the OTB) when I went off on my own to watch and wager. I really believed it. Too focused on the horses and the form, and not many girls in attendance.

That all changed when I went to Belmont to see Easy Goer and Sunday Silence, with hopes of seeing Sunday Silence win the Triple Crown.

I was hanging by the paddock before the 1st race, not far from the Secretariat statue, when I met a young lady. We ended up having a wonderful day. At least I did. It was the first time in my life I met a girl (besides my mother....!) who loved thoroughbred racing. I won't go into much more detail of that day being a supposed gentleman and all that.... :rolleyes:

I think I've told the story before, but once I was by myself at an OTB in Indianapolis when what I considered to be an attractive unescorted girl came asking to see my form, and sat down and struck up a conversation. I was in town on business, and honest to goodness I presumed she was a hooker. In fact, I flat out asked her if she was a hooker.... pretty matter of factly. I didn't need no hooker interfering with my horse racing gambling! Turned out she wasn't. She had a good laugh, and we had some nice times together.


FWIW, going forward, I would not recommend "are you a hooker?" as an ice breaker line.

The Indomitable DrugS 11-14-2007 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by westcoastinvader
FWIW, going forward, I would not recommend "are you a hooker?" as an ice breaker line.

Thanks. I'll be sure to make note of that.

pmayjr 11-14-2007 10:46 PM

When I was in my early teens, my parents and I would go to the greyhound track across the border in Hudson, WI, and to Canterbury when it re-opened in the Mid-90s. Gambling with my parents' $$$ seemed fun, and I evenn made them some $$$ from time to time.

I didn't play much on my own when I turned 18, because I went to school in South Dakota. They had an OTB in the college town I lived in, but I didn't find that out until the last few months I went to school out there lol.... ignorance was probably bliss on that one. The funny thing was, I remember hitting an exacta on a race at Hialeahwhen I was at that OTB (it was '01 or '02 at the latest), and I wonder if the track was open much longer after that?

When I came back to Minneapolis and started working a steady job, I started simulcasting at Canterbury more. Over time I've become pretty decent at it, and even do some contests now (when I can afford it). I usually go every weekend, and love playing the crappy night tracks the most.

I guess the thing as far as betting goes that hooks me to the game the most, is the minimum investment you can put into winning a lot of $$$$. I really don't have the most money to spend, but I can use my skill to win some big bets anyway.

Bobby Fischer 11-15-2007 05:18 AM

I was introduced by my father, who is a sportsman and a horseplayer.
I have never participated in anything that matches the game of horseracing.

miraja2 11-15-2007 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski
Yeah, Sunday Silence/Easy Goer pretty much sealed me for life as well.

Strange that so many people share that same story. Count me in as another who was hooked by the '89 Triple Crown.
That is why I will never change my avatar.

booner 11-15-2007 08:59 AM

4 years ago, I was invited to go to Ellis Park with some friends from work. While I had always thought about going, I had never taken the time to do it. Could hardly make sense of the track program, but hit the tri in the second race for $180 and was off and rolling. I loved the atmosphere and the betting, but what really hooked me was watching the horses run. The beauty and grace they displayed pulled me in. But I didn't go head over heels until the next year.

I followed the races a little during the winter. That spring, went to Churchill and saw a horse named Afleet Buck in a $30k claiming race. Absolutely fell in love with him from first sight. For some reason, when I saw him in the paddock, he just caught my eye. To this day, I still don't know what it was. He finished 3rd or 4th that day, and I put him on my watch list.

That October, my brother and I took a trip to Keeneland, and he was entered in a $50k claimer. I was on pins and needles when they went into the gate. He was in last early, but made a big move around the turn, closed fast and lost a photo for the win. I was screaming and hollering like crazy when he was closing the last 2 furlongs. I had a feeling of excitement and passion that I couldn't explain. After the race, a couple in front of me asked if I owned the horse, because I sure was cheering like I did.

I used to keep up with football and basketball fervently, but since that day everything has transfered to horse racing. I love staying up late at night poring over the PP's, going to the track the next day, and seeing a race play out exactly like I pictured it in my head.

As I'm typing this, I have found out that putting into words the way I actually feel about horse racing is very difficult. I could name several more reasons why I love this game so much. The atmosphere of being at the track, the anticipation as they load into the gate, the beauty of watching them run around the track, and the personal satisfaction I get when the race plays out like I pictured it........it's a feeling like no other.

I could ramble on and on and on, but I'll end it here. I love this game!!

NTamm1215 11-15-2007 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by booner
4 years ago, I was invited to go to Ellis Park with some friends from work. While I had always thought about going, I had never taken the time to do it. Could hardly make sense of the track program, but hit the tri in the second race for $180 and was off and rolling. I loved the atmosphere and the betting, but what really hooked me was watching the horses run. The beauty and grace they displayed pulled me in. But I didn't go head over heels until the next year.

I followed the races a little during the winter. That spring, went to Churchill and saw a horse named Afleet Buck in a $30k claiming race. Absolutely fell in love with him from first sight. For some reason, when I saw him in the paddock, he just caught my eye. To this day, I still don't know what it was. He finished 3rd or 4th that day, and I put him on my watch list.

That October, my brother and I took a trip to Keeneland, and he was entered in a $50k claimer. I was on pins and needles when they went into the gate. He was in last early, but made a big move around the turn, closed fast and lost a photo for the win. I was screaming and hollering like crazy when he was closing the last 2 furlongs. I had a feeling of excitement and passion that I couldn't explain. After the race, a couple in front of me asked if I owned the horse, because I sure was cheering like I did.

I used to keep up with football and basketball fervently, but since that day everything has transfered to horse racing. I love staying up late at night poring over the PP's, going to the track the next day, and seeing a race play out exactly like I pictured it in my head.

As I'm typing this, I have found out that putting into words the way I actually feel about horse racing is very difficult. I could name several more reasons why I love this game so much. The atmosphere of being at the track, the anticipation as they load into the gate, the beauty of watching them run around the track, and the personal satisfaction I get when the race plays out like I pictured it........it's a feeling like no other.

I could ramble on and on and on, but I'll end it here. I love this game!!

Great post that captures so much of why so many of us love this game. Truly the greatest game in the world.

NT

Oaklawnfan 11-15-2007 09:48 AM

Here you can get real entertainment value for your wager. It's participatory, not passive or quite as impulsive.

Danzig 11-15-2007 05:40 PM

i'm just a horse nut. gambling is secondary for me.

Pedigree Ann 11-16-2007 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot
Judging by people's answers, it seems the most important point for creating new fans is for them to be exposed to the track as youngsters.

Does anyone know when the Derby was first televised on national TV?

I think the first time I saw a horse race was Northern Dancer winning in 1964, but that may be confused childhood memories ... I know I remember reading about it in the Sunday paper (I was a horse-crazy kid and looked for anything about horses, everywhere)

I know I watched Venetian Way and Bally Ache and Celtic Ash in the 1960 Triple Crown races because I drew strangely proportioned but labelled pictures of the winners with blankets of flowers over their withers. (Only 8, you see, and not particularly artistically talented.) Native Dancer is supposed to have been the first racehorse TV star, back in 1953.

azerica 11-16-2007 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jballscalls
My dad would take me to Longacres every weekend during the season. I can still hear Gary Henson "And here he comes, the Captain Condo is on the move" after they closed longacres i didnt go to the track for probably 7 or 8 years. when my dad got sick i started going with him alot that spring/summer of 2001 to Emerald Downs. After he passed away i spent alot of time at EmD and started falling in love with racing as i did in my childhood. I dont gamble hardly at all anymore, just love being a part of the game and enjoying it everyday.


I love Emerald Downs. They had it nicely decorated with the past triple crown winners banners for Smarty Jones' attempt in the Belmont.

Belatde condolenses for your father...


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